QT Tank Levels... Yay or Nay?

beth

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Am I missing something? Does the fish have ich? It sound like not, but there is a lot of disccussion about treatments. If you plan to get a new tang, get it and place it QT. Watch him carefully for signs of any disease. If you see ich at some point during the qurantine period (3 weeks) then treat the fish. The best is hyposalinity.
 

sparty059

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No, there currently is no fish. However, I'm preparing for the worst and assuming it will have Ich. I figure if I get it in my head that it does, then I can work on getting all the facts and understand how to do everything in the event it does end up having it.
So at this point, no, it doesn't have ich, because I don't even have it yet. I'm buying it tomorrow but the fish store I purchase from don't take a GREAT deal of care when it comes to the fish. My girlfriend typically will wait outside or would prefer not to even go anymore because we have come across a number of fish dead in their store. A puffer fish had puffed and looked like he was laying there breathing, and looking so sad. That was one of the ones that actually touched me a bit, he looked so helpless :(.
Anyway, I'm assuming this fish will have Ich, as they keep anywhere from 5-10 in a tank and if one has it then most likely all will have it. So yeah. Just prepping for the worst! Can never be too prepared!
 

meowzer

Moderator
Sparty....have you ever considered buying elsewhere? I can tell you this....I have never received a sick fish from SWF....and IMO that means everything to me
 

gemmy

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Want mine? LOL. I would not worry about the hippo not eating in the dt, since they love to graze all day long.
 

sparty059

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I don't really consider it. All the fish I have gotten from the store have been 100% perfect. No problems what so ever. I hand pick them so I have a decent idea of which one to pick up (as good as I can pick based off of the naked eye). They have no problems if I say I don't want that one, I want that other one. They're only about 4 miles away from me also. The next closest is about 7 miles, which doesn't sounds much further, but it's along the more crowded roads so it typically takes 20-30 minutes to get home. Not to mention every mile counts right now seeing that my lease is up next month and I have 1,100 miles and have a combined 50 mile commute to and from work every m-f.
I'll call up the other store tomorrow while in the office and see what their prices are and when they got them in. The "other store" is much better, far more cleaner, but the people aren't very social. They want you in for the business and out. Which at the same time means they're really working to keep their fish healthy and looking good. You just won't get the good service the other store has.
Sacrifice one for the other I guess...
 

sparty059

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Gemmy, I was under the impression that if you feed them flakes they'll become accustom to the flakes and will look at you as if you're crazy if you want it to touch the hair algae.
 

gemmy

Active Member
Well, I would just feed him a bit of frozen food while in QT and some algae strips. I rarely feed frozen. I had to keep my hippo in the qt for 6-8 weeks (I got it for free since it was in bad shape and nursed it back to health), and went I put him the dt he grazed all day long. As far as them eating hair algae goes, it is up to the fish. Each fish is different and will eat what they like.
 

sparty059

Active Member
Acrylic, I was under the impression tangs eat hair algae... is that wrong?
Gemmy, ok, I understand. I'll do the flakes and the frozen food once I get him. And of course, I will be leaving him in the QT for a solid month to two months.
 

sparty059

Active Member
Ok, so I was reading Beth's Ich Wiki and see that it says the following:
The best instruments to use for measuring specific gravity are refractometers or high-quality, lab-grade glass hydrometers .
I purchased a glass hydrometer when I started to buy everything for my tank. That's currently what I use to determine my SG levels. I usually keep it in my DT's refugium but have removed it and placed it in my QT for the time being. Can I just use that instead of the refractometer? I'm not asking if this is a simple way around it, I'm simply asking, aren't they pretty much the same thing? Except one is a manual look and the other is a electronic number that you look at?
 

sparty059

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What type of frozen food is meat free? Or do they eat brine shrimp and the reef chopped mix? Clams, squid, shrimp, yada yada yada...
 
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jstdv8

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1.) my tang has never eaten any algae off the rocks that Ive seen (yellow tang)
2.) I feed homemamde frozen and he loves it, maybe that's why he doesnt eat the HA that used to be in there.
3.) Thats a great idea to prepare for the worst, I'm not sure why some people are so against treating a fish in a mild treatment like a hypo or a copper to make sure it never brings ich intot he system. especially a tang. But as Beth said she only treats if she sees the fish is actually sick (which IMO is never a guranteed thing to see)
4.) yes you can measure salinty with a hydrometer. but you need to be EXTREMELY accurate with the treatment and you MUST know that it is right on. Refractometers automaticly adjust for temperature, your hydrometers do not. You HAVE to know that the salinity is at .009 throughout the ENTIRE treatment if you decide its needed. If not then as I said you are likley going to comprimise the treatment wich drastically increases the chance for failure and ultimatley risks the health of the fish.
5.) I'd ask the LFS to feed the tangs and make sure the one you like eats. Blues are very skiddish and usually aren't out swimming around at the fish store, more often than not they are hiding behind the overflow or a piece of LR. If it eats and has good colors and no visible defects then its as good to go as you are going to find.
 

btldreef

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I quarantine everything when it comes to fish, especially if they're from a store. With tangs being so prone to ich, they go to the QT for hypo regardless of where they came from. I'd rather be safe than screaming, "There's ich in my 155G and now I have to treat 17 fish!" Which is what I'm doing right now because I didn't QT a fish. It takes one time and your reef becomes a nightmare.
I haven't went the homemade food route, and many people don't just because it's messy and well, I'm lazy. I feed all my tangs Emerald Entree, PE Mysis, Marine Cuisine, SFBB Angel and Butterfly mix and Ocean Nutrition Algae sheets. If your tang does not accept the algae sheets off the clip (many don't), you can try rubberbanding it to a rock. I could not get my naso to eat the algae sheets either way, so I had to start breaking the algae sheets up in my hand in an area of high flow (in front of the return pump of powerhead) and she slowly started eating it. It looked like flake food floating through the water. My Naso will now eat out of my hand from doing this, as will ALL of my fish. This can be helpful when it comes time to catch them. tangs MUST have algae in their diets EVERY DAY. They will also accept meaty foods, and these should be offered, but they need the algae for their health.
Since you asked about the hair algae: Tangs will eat a little of it, but not too much. It's not one of their preferred foods. Some tangs will eat more than others, it really depends on their taste for it. None of mine will, but I feed heavy and believe that has a lot to do with it.
If you're going to run hypo on the tank, use a very good/accurate floating hydrometer or a refractometer. I don't trust hydrometers at all and stick with refractometers, especially for performing hypo.
 

sparty059

Active Member
Ok. Thanks. What is the typical feeding schedule for a tang? Right now I feed my fish once every two days. Can I keep that up with the tang also?
 

florida joe

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IMO you need to feed your tangs at least once a day and provide enough live rock with algae growth for them to graze on. They are constant pickers. I have never seen a tang eat hair algae
 
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jstdv8

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Quote:
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/383502/qt-tank-levels-yay-or-nay/20#post_3354957
IMO you need to feed your tangs at least once a day and provide enough live rock with algae growth for them to graze on. They are constant pickers. I have never seen a tang eat hair algae
So, if we spend all this time and money to rid ourselves of algae on our rocks..........
My tank is algae free, all my tang does is swim around like the other fish now.
 

florida joe

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Not sure what of if you have a question. If a hobbyist is going to keep a tang or multiple tangs they have to be sure to meet their nutritional needs and that includes enough live rock with good algae (not hair) growth to satisfy their constant grazing
 
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