Question about ICH

oceanic110

Member
Question.. If a tank were contaminated by ich and all fish were lost to this parasite except for (2) damsels, and after 22 days with out any signs of ich on the damsels, What do you think the odds are of ich still in the tank? No hypo or meds were done.
 

oceanic110

Member
Beth,
If the damsels don't show any signs of the parasite, How does the life cycle of the parasite continue? Doesn't the parasite need a host to continue its life cycle? If you don't see the parasite on the fish as white spots (adult stage of the parasite) after a few weeks or so,
does this mean the cycle is broken? I know that the parasite stays in the the subtrate then moves to free swim form to attach
itself to the host and then drops off the host to the subtrate again to start the process over. Can the cycle take place without signs of white spots on the fish?
 

bang guy

Moderator
What Beth said ;) 100% chance there is still Ick in the tank. I'm 100% positive I have Ick in my tank.... I have never had an outbreak though. I'm sure if I stressed a fish to the point where its immune system was weakened it would contract a bad case of Ick.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Exactly, your fish still have the parasite, its just not an infestation, or a real disease process. Its the difference between a cat who has one or 2 flees, and a cat that is literally being eaten alive by flees [which, BTW, can happen]. Given the right [or I should say, the wrong] circumstances, the opportunistic parasite in the tank will proliferate to epedemic proportions. Less then ideal conditions, a stressed fish, etc. is all it will take for the parasite already present in your tank to come out in full-bloom. Right now, the fish that you have in the tank are healthy and in a postion to keep the ich at bay. That might not always be the case.
 

clarkiiboi

Active Member
Beth is right, of course. I had a great link to the whole process if ich, but somehow I lost it or deleted it by mistake.
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Ick has a life cycle of approx. 23 days during which time the parasite undergoes 3 stages. In the tomite [free-swimming] stage [no, you can not see it with the ----- eye], the parasite is infectious to fish. During this stage, the tomite's goal is to find a host fish, or die trying. After they attach to the gills or body of a fish, they develop into the second stage, the parasitic trophont. During this stage they burrow into the fish, feeding on it's tissues, which can cause considerable damage and even result in a secondary bacterial infection on the infected fish. This stage is the only time that you can actually see the parasites [on the fish]. Once well fed the trophonts stop feeding and develop cystic coverings. This becomes the inactive tomont stage and during this final stage the cysts may stay trapped in the tissues of the fish, or fall off and sit on the bottom of the aquarium. Within 6 to 10 days hundreds of new tomites emerge looking for fish hosts and the cycle begins all over again, and again and again until something is done about it. Once ick is an active presence in the aquaria, having infested fish, it must be irradiated or it will always pose a threat to fish, and to any new fish introduced. The only time this parasite is vulnerable is during their free swimming stage. Only in the free-swimming stage is any kind of treatments effective.
 

angler1

New Member
I think Beth knows what she's talking about. You can also raise the water temp to 79-80F to force the ick tomont cysts to "hatch", leaving them vulnerable to chemical treatment. Beth, please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Yes, raising temps forces the life cycle of ich to hurry along, however, with sick fish, I don't really advise temp changes. Environmental stability is very important generally, more so when dealing with sick fish.
 
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