questions about T5 lights and fixtures

big

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Originally Posted by hops523
http:///forum/post/2546991
Alright alright. Haha its a little confusing,but I think Im getting it. The first option for me is to buy what I need at a store, and not online. But the only T5 fixture I can find in a store is the hagen fixture.
I would tend to disagree a bit on this point. Although we all like to help out by supporting our LFS's.
Unless price is of no concern............ on-line is the way to go for price . That is once one knows what they want for sure. One thing with a MH combo fixture is more heat to deal with i.e. is there an expensive chiller in you future because of the MH lights ???........... Some folks will never give up on their MH's because they do have that certain shimmering look on the water and yes T-5's just do not have that.. But I think for most of us pure T-5's in the thing of the future........
Try the "Doctor's" on line site for specs and pricing............. Nova Extreme Pro 6x54 T-5's which has reflectors. Les than 350 bucks.........
 

nycbob

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i HAVE it! i am looking at it. it has 6 individual reflectors. btw, u dont hv to take it apart bc all u hv to do is look under the t5 bulbs. thank you. did u click on the link i posted? the pic clearly shows each reflector wrapping around each bulb. maybe u never hv t5, thats why u wouldnt know what i am talking about. what am i even bothering with u?
 

hops523

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Ok this might sound dumb, and a quick change of heart I guess you could say, but for some reason I have changed my mind, and dont really want to get an anemone. But instead get some coral, and some reef safe fish. I was wondering would I still need the T5 lighting? Or could I get something else?
 

nycbob

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corals will need decent light to thrive too. if u go with pc whether than t5, ur choice will be limited to softies and zoas. even if u r keeping only those, t5 will give corals a better growth rate.
 

nycbob

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with t5, u dont limit urself to what corals to get and their placement inside the tank. if u ask anyone, its better to invest in a decent lighting fixture now than waste more money later on. lighting imo is the single most important thing in a reeftank.
 

big

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Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/2547340
with t5, u dont limit urself to what corals to get and their placement inside the tank. if u ask anyone, its better to invest in a decent lighting fixture now than waste more money later on. lighting imo is the single most important thing in a reeftank.
Well said!
BTW I looked closely at my NEP too and yes Fats the reflectors are individual on them nowdays..... They still are the most bang for the buck out there!!
 

fats71

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Originally Posted by nycbob
http:///forum/post/2547298
i HAVE it! i am looking at it. it has 6 individual reflectors. btw, u dont hv to take it apart bc all u hv to do is look under the t5 bulbs. thank you. did u click on the link i posted? the pic clearly shows each reflector wrapping around each bulb. maybe u never hv t5, thats why u wouldnt know what i am talking about. what am i even bothering with u?
the reflectors aren't individual. they're "individually contoured reflectors" -basically one sheet bent into a VVVVVV shape. the tek reflectors have a bunch of bends on each reflector to focus light straight down (16? 19? i forget).
Unless they are selling to different companies like wal-mart does where they short cut for some companies so as they can sell cheaper etc. I took the one apart at a LFS with the owner and it is one sheet that from the outside looks like a single reflector but when taken apart you see it is one sheet.
As for bang for the buck I disagree this is the best bang for the buck
hence why I will be going with 48" 760W Metal Halide System (Electronic Version) 359 bucks shipped to my door not a penny more.
 

nycbob

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u dont even hv the fixture, yet u sounded like u were looking right at it. btw, it is not one sheet of metal shape vvvvv. they r all separated. why r u arguing about a product u dont hv and hv never seen b4? its like people saying the earth is flat back in the 14th century.
 

fats71

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Originally Posted by nycbob http:///forum/post/2548565
u dont even hv the fixture, yet u sounded like u were looking right at it. btw, it is not one sheet of metal shape vvvvv. they r all separated. why r u arguing about a product u dont hv and hv never seen b4? its like people saying the earth is flat back in the 14th century.
Literacy is a terrible thing to waste. I said I took it apart at my LFS hence seeing it holding it and taking it apart please don't be so foolish in telling me what I have seen and or not seen. Tell ya what why not call the company e-mail them or something and learn for yourself as opposed to arguing what everyone else knows to be factual about the lights which you seem to not understand.
If your intertested in some other facts about skimmers wave makers etc that you pay hundreds of dollars for I can show you the ones I have been making for 20 bucks that outperform most 300 plus dollar skimmers and the like as well.
Here is one for my 75 gal total cost 34 dollars took me a hour
This one cost me the bottle of water and some stuff I had laying around cost me 8 bucks
One I made last night total cost 14 dollars
I tinker with everything. I have made my own Mh lights but will be buying the ones above mentioned as I will then take it apart and start making them much cheaper as well.
I guess in the end if your not going to belive facts then we have to agree to disagree but don't try and talk down to me as if im a moron k,thx.
 

fats71

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I have been recycling and building things sold a few and recently had a article written about myselff and my friend eli which I build most of these with in a mag that will come out in a few months. I have been building Pc's for years water cooled and cryogenic computers building my own lights for pc's before anyone knew what a water cooled pc was. We have placed pcs into running fish tanks run them with lights etc. Calling me a goof in the area of say dress making might be appropriate or calling me a writter but when it comes to things I know and make money on is probably not the best thing to do.
Now you have me babbling....
 

tugglife2

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I was thinking about getting the Nova Extreme 36" T5 156 watt for my 38g tank. I realize it doesn't have the individual reflectors like the Pro, but would this enable me to keep most things/corals?
 

nycbob

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i am not gonna waste my time with u. all this back and forth is pretty childish. the regular nova is ok, the nova pro t5 is better, unless u ask fat71. the regular nova without individual reflectors will only allow u to keep softies, zoas and lps. this is under the 48 inch version of the nova extreme pro t5.

 

fats71

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I do not think the nova ep is a bad light at all. if it fits into his budget get it if he can afford 10 more he can get a better light.
 

scopus tang

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Originally Posted by Fats71 http:///forum/post/2548694
Literacy is a terrible thing to waste. I said I took it apart at my LFS hence seeing it holding it and taking it apart please don't be so foolish in telling me what I have seen and or not seen. Tell ya what why not call the company e-mail them or something and learn for yourself as opposed to arguing what everyone else knows to be factual about the lights which you seem to not understand.
If your intertested in some other facts about skimmers wave makers etc that you pay hundreds of dollars for I can show you the ones I have been making for 20 bucks that outperform most 300 plus dollar skimmers and the like as well.
Here is one for my 75 gal total cost 34 dollars took me a hour

This one cost me the bottle of water and some stuff I had laying around cost me 8 bucks

One I made last night total cost 14 dollars



I tinker with everything. I have made my own Mh lights but will be buying the ones above mentioned as I will then take it apart and start making them much cheaper as well.
I guess in the end if your not going to belive facts then we have to agree to disagree but don't try and talk down to me as if im a moron k,thx.
Pretty amazing accomplishments for a guy who less than two months ago was running a worthless skilter as a protein skimmer on his brand new tank?!
JMO
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/306809/live-sand-and-crushed-coral-what-am-i-doing
 

reefraff

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The Nova extreme pro I did PAR readings on was a single reflector molded to conture around each lamp. Bob, you sure you are seeing 6 individual reflectors there? If so try to get us a pic. I'd like to see what they changed. For the record the Tek light also using a single sheet reflector that is molded like that, its just better material and a more detailed design.
 

nycbob

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yes it is each individual reflector wrap around each bulb. it has space between each metal reflectors. the link below will show that, looking at the blue bulb will help u see it sure. of course u cant compared to a tek or aquactinic t5 reflectors. they for the price its not bad. most people dont want to spend $500-600. imo, this wouldbe the next best option. i hv very good experience with it, bc all of my clams and sps growing.
 

fats71

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Originally Posted by Scopus Tang
http:///forum/post/2549482
Pretty amazing accomplishments for a guy who less than two months ago was running a worthless skilter as a protein skimmer on his brand new tank?!
JMO
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=306809
Are you pokin fun at me ?? (I dont think you are) You have been very helpful which has led me to read about 40 plus books thus far hung out with bob fenner for awhile annd am somewhat handy with my hands I like to think. While some of those are prototypes just checking out hole sizes etc i know they are not the best of the best but hey im workin on it lol. You and soe others on here should certainly get a check
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2550644
The Nova extreme pro I did PAR readings on was a single reflector molded to conture around each lamp. Bob, you sure you are seeing 6 individual reflectors there? If so try to get us a pic. I'd like to see what they changed. For the record the Tek light also using a single sheet reflector that is molded like that, its just better material and a more detailed design.
Can I get a A-men and uh erm herm hi-5 !!
Originally Posted by nycbob

http:///forum/post/2550707
yes it is each individual reflector wrap around each bulb. it has space between each metal reflectors. the link below will show that, looking at the blue bulb will help u see it sure. of course u cant compared to a tek or aquactinic t5 reflectors. they for the price its not bad. most people dont want to spend $500-600. imo, this wouldbe the next best option. i hv very good experience with it, bc all of my clams and sps growing.
http://www.current-usa.com/nova_extreme_pro


Nowhere does it show it is a single sheet or indavidual you need to get more hands on and as far as lol'ing about muh fancy dancy skimmers from someone who wants to argue about something you post a link to the website as opposed to taking a pic of it yourself
This is truly laughable.
Nowhere have I said the nova ep is bad heck i'll take one in a second over a lot of others it is a great light for the price !!
 
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