R.I.P Heath Ledger!

[ino]

Alright...time to calm down everyone.
It's a tragedy, plain and simple. NY is right in that we shouldn't make assumptions, but it does look like it was a suicide, in all likelihood. *Assuming* it was, that goes lots of ways. I've suffered from major depression before, and everything was telling me to go ahead and end it, but by thinking of those I loved, I was able to avert tragedy. I have others, though, who weren't so lucky. They hurt the people around them... but by jumping into their shoes, I discovered that none of them meant to hurt anyone... there is a veil over their eyes, disguising the reality of a situation. Most people aren't strong enough, or aren't lucky enough to have people help them, to see through the veil, and that's not their fault.

 

[beenbag497]

Originally Posted by NYyankeees
Whatever, I deleted my previous posts. Seems like everyone's made up their minds that because the papanatzi put "sleeping p.ills were found on the night stand" in their reports that he's now some druggie loser that offed himself. It amazes me how" quick to judge" and unforgiving some people can be and I'm not going waste my time to debate a losing battle. Have a lovely evening.

yeah i still dont know wether it was an accident or not either

 

[sharkbait9]

why is heath's death any different then the guy down the street? He was an actor but further more a human that cracked under the pressure.
Yeah it stinks that a person took their own life, but that happens everyday and no one but family and friends deal with it. The general public has not a clue or a want to know about some self loathing lunatic that took their own life.
With life comes death and death has many faces.
Its sux for his family but life moves forward.
Ok go ahead a bash me for being a cold hearted

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[dragonzim]

Originally Posted by MiaHeatLvr
This guy might have been on the cusp of greatness. This Batman movie might have done it.. He died to young ala RIVER PHOENIX and we all end up pondering the future of what he could have bought us in the thespian arts.. While you may not felt or needed to respect his life or creative field, try to at least respect his passing by not being so callous. My 2 cents..
I was not being in the least bit callous. If you note, I am NOT one of the people that jumped on the suicideOD bandwagon. I just dont feel that his acting was that good.

 

[nyyankeees]

Originally Posted by socal57che
Not really, but I waste it on the internet anyway.

It was 3 hours later where you are. Up pretty late surfing, and on this morning already. Maybe we both have too much free time.

Actually, I was just getting home last nite and read posts before bed, on my way to class this A.M. and now just got home. Do you wanna know how many times I've peed today as well?

 

[nyyankeees]

Originally Posted by Ino
Alright...time to calm down everyone.
It's a tragedy, plain and simple. NY is right in that we shouldn't make assumptions, but it does look like it was a suicide, in all likelihood. *Assuming* it was, that goes lots of ways. I've suffered from major depression before, and everything was telling me to go ahead and end it, but by thinking of those I loved, I was able to avert tragedy. I have others, though, who weren't so lucky. They hurt the people around them... but by jumping into their shoes, I discovered that none of them meant to hurt anyone... there is a veil over their eyes, disguising the reality of a situation. Most people aren't strong enough, or aren't lucky enough to have people help them, to see through the veil, and that's not their fault.
My point exactly...I've had someone in my immediate family attempt suicide before over horrific things(physical, mental and sexual) that occurred during their childhood, luckily they lived.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by DragonZim
I was not being in the least bit callous. If you note, I am NOT one of the people that jumped on the suicideOD bandwagon. I just dont feel that his acting was that good.

I actually agree. I've yet to see any movie with him in it that was any good. "A Knight's Tale" and "The Order" are 2 of the worst abominations ever put on film. I thought whatever gruffy accent he was trying to put on in Brokeback Mountain was completely over the top and unrealistic to the point that I couldn't even watch the movie (even before the hot and heavy stuff started).
that being said, the new Batman movie DOES look good and it looks like his joker is the polar opposite of Jack Nicholson's (which is a good idea because it would be hard to out-Nicholson Nicholson as the joker). I am definitely looking forward to it but it will be hard watching it knowing that the guy on the screen is dead (much like Brandon Lee in the Crow).

 

[cowfishrule]

story gets wierder by the moment.
the lady who first found his body didnt call 911 first......
her first call was to Mary-Kate Olsen.
story
hmmmmmmmm.
methinks he was messin with MKO

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by DragonZim
I am NOT one of the people that jumped on the suicideOD bandwagon.
I was driving said bandwagon. You may ride if you like, but it will cost you popular opinion.

ps... if you want a ride please have gas money.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by socal57che
I was driving said bandwagon. You may ride if you like, but it will cost you popular opinion.

ps... if you want a ride please have gas money.

well, I was riding alongside you in that bandwagon. then, I got out and got into the "Heath Ledger wasn't in any good movies" bandwagon because the gas is much cheaper than the late 50s model gas guzzler that you're driving.

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
story gets wierder by the moment.
the lady who first found his body didnt call 911 first......
her first call was to Mary-Kate Olsen.
story
hmmmmmmmm.
methinks he was messin with MKO
well, if my housekeeper found me dead, I would absolutely hope that Mary Kate Olsen would be the first person that she called.
not that I have a housekeeper.

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by Pontius
well, I was riding alongside you in that bandwagon. then, I got out and got into the "Heath Ledger wasn't in any good movies" bandwagon because the gas is much cheaper than the late 50s model gas guzzler that you're driving.
I avoided the acting issue because the fact that he was a poor actor had no bearing on my decision to hate him for child abandonment. A live person would go to jail for dumping their kids and walking away. (or at least pay child support) Surely his daughter will be taken care of financially, right? I mean, rich people have insurance, or money in the matress or ... something ... right?

 

[pontius]

Originally Posted by socal57che
I avoided the acting issue because the fact that he was a poor actor had no bearing on my decision to hate him for child abandonment. A live person would go to jail for dumping their kids and walking away. (or at least pay child support) Surely his daughter will be taken care of financially, right? I mean, rich people have insurance, or money in the matress or ... something ... right?

I'm sure the child will be taken care of financially, the mother is a fairly well known actress too. but yeah, leaving the child for a supermodel (or for Mary Kate Olsen, or whoever) is pretty crappy imo.
I don't know if he was a bad actor, I just know that I didn't like any of his movies. but I think Batman will change that because it's hard not to like any Batman movie that doesn't have Clooney or Kilmer in it.

 

[socal57che]

The issue I have with batman movies is that I keep waiting to see Adam West and am disappointed when Michael Keaton won't even do it.

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by Pontius
it's hard not to like any Batman movie that doesn't have Clooney or Kilmer in it.
I thought Kilmer was good in TOMBSTONE, but that's all I really know him for. "I'm your Huckleberry" is one of my favorite movie lines and I use it often in everyday life. It's cool when someone recognizes it and cracks up.

 

[beenbag497]

hey i have a joke that probly all of you have heard but maybe not
what did the horses in brokeback mountain eat
hey(gay voice)

 

[gregghia]

WHY DOES ANYONE EVEN CARE. I think its sad that because the horse's ass was famous that it gets this attention. Crap happened all over the country today to hundreds of others and no one gave a damn except those caught up in it. I'd feel like crap if I lost someone today and had to listen to some jackass that had it made in life and couldn't figure out he needed help.
Jesus I just got started.... what an a-hole for wasting our time.
Seriously I am not bitter.

 

[agent-x]

Originally Posted by gregghia
WHY DOES ANYONE EVEN CARE. I think its sad that because the horse's ass was famous that it gets this attention. Crap happened all over the country today to hundreds of others and no one gave a damn except those caught up in it. I'd feel like crap if I lost someone today and had to listen to some jackass that had it made in life and couldn't figure out he needed help.
Jesus I just got started.... what an a-hole for wasting our time.
Seriously I am not bitter.
Wow, regarless of your bitterness toward this man, I think that was uncalled for. Seriously, the man was a father of a 2 year old girl. The "

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" that were found near him were all perscription and all perscribed to him. Yeah, lots of stuff goes on all around the world that no one pays attention to, but in the end he was famous so it's going to get press. I'd say you're an "a-hole" for this type of post and I'd say that suprises me, but from the d-bag look on your face I'm guessing this is normal for you. Maybe you can go join in the retarded Phelps family's picketing of the funeral. You sound like you'd get along with them.

 

[socal57che]

Originally Posted by AGENT-X
Phelps family's picketing of the funeral.
You're not serious, are you?
I don't have TV so I miss a lot of details.
Funerals are not for dead people. They are for the families and loved ones. Let them bury him in peace.

 

[agent-x]

Originally Posted by socal57che
You're not serious, are you?
I don't have TV so I miss a lot of details.
Funerals are not for dead people. They are for the families and loved ones. Let them bury him in peace.
100% serious
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22813570/
this same family protests at funerals of US troops and any other group or person that can force their hate on. Look up Fred Phelps on wikipedia or something. They live in Kansas somewhere, I used to live in KC, so the radio station there always had them on trying to figure out what their problem is and why they have so much hate.