Reef Safe-NO..Coral YES

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I am researching some fish
An example os a description on a frogfish says
Reef safe....NO
Coral Safe...YES
What does that mean?????
 
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tizzo

Guest
A "reef" typically has snails, hermits and shrimp...
The frog will eat those but not corals.
 

sk8shorty01

Active Member
I agree. Reef safe typically means that it is safe for all inverts and corals. You could always have one or the other :) .
 

jackri

Active Member
Yeah.. Reef safe doesn't always mean Invert safe. Like triggers can be reef safe -- but tear up all your inverts.
 

d-man

Member
Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/3035826
Yeah.. Reef safe doesn't always mean Invert safe. Like triggers can be reef safe -- but tear up all your inverts.

I have never heard anyone say that triggers are reef safe, is there a type that is? I was told that frogfish are one of the fastest creatures in the world, I read that they will snap up fish, as big and some people say bigger? than itself so fast that you need a high speed cam to see it, is this true?
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by d-man
http:///forum/post/3035830
I have never heard anyone say that triggers are reef safe, is there a type that is?
Any of the Xanthichthys are typically considered reef-safe. If introduced correctly they should leave inverts alone. They are a larger fish, and are pretty active, so they'd have to go into a larger reef anyways, and most times in a larger reef, you can 'get away' with more then a few combinations that normally won't work in a small tank.
Originally Posted by d-man

http:///forum/post/3035830
I was told that frogfish are one of the fastest creatures in the world, I read that they will snap up fish, as big and some people say bigger? than itself so fast that you need a high speed cam to see it, is this true?
That's pretty much any predator. Frogfish, lionfish, even if you want to go that far, a freshwater bass can suck in it's prey in just a blink of the eye. The two 'fastest' actions off the top of my head, are the strike from a mantis shrimp, or the snap of the claw of a pistol shrimp.
Sure frogfish can eat something as long as them, but their mouth is only so
big. They can't eat an equal sized frogfish for example.
 

toomanytoys

Member
i know for a fact that them will eat fish near their same size i have seen it first hand when mine escaped naughty fish jail! 2" frog fish ate a 2" clown with no problem what so ever

finally found a place for him to go , cool fish just not a community player. he disappears ghost shrimp like nobody's business
 

geoj

Active Member
Reef safe....NO
Coral Safe...YES
I would like to remind all that these terms are generalizations use with caution…
Frogfish may sit on corals and this may damage some types. So you could say it is coral safe but you may mislead some people to think you can keep corals with it without any issue and this would not be the case.
Emerald Crab is one more that I and others have found that is Reef safe yet will eat some corals at times.
 

d-man

Member
Originally Posted by GeoJ
http:///forum/post/3036469
Reef safe....NO
Coral Safe...YES
I would like to remind all that these terms are generalizations use with caution…
Frogfish may sit on corals and this may damage some types. So you could say it is coral safe but you may mislead some people to think you can keep corals with it without any issue and this would not be the case.
Emerald Crab is one more that I and others have found that is Reef safe yet will eat some corals at times.
what corals do emerald crab's eat? I had one for some time (he got crushed my a rock the my eel moved) and I want to get one agin, witch corals have you heard thy eat?
 

cranberry

Active Member
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3035850
Sure frogfish can eat something as long as them, but their mouth is only so
big. They can't eat an equal sized frogfish for example.
They often try to eat bigger... and die in the process.
 

stanlalee

Active Member
there are alot of fish that are coral safe but arent considered reef safe due to their taste for inverts: Thalasoma wrasses, large hogfish, groupers, tusk, large hawkfish, eels, scorpion and toadfish ect.
 

geoj

Active Member
Originally Posted by d-man
http:///forum/post/3036639
what corals do emerald crab's eat? I had one for some time (he got crushed my a rock the my eel moved) and I want to get one agin, witch corals have you heard thy eat?
I have had two emerald crabs at different times that would eat the long tentacle green star polyps by pulling tentacles off one at a time.
 
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