Originally Posted by
SteveDave08
http:///forum/post/3189574
You're first statements about war make no sense. By you're logic, if we go to war with Mexico because we've been told there is a threat there and WMD have been sighted and are being put together, but then we find out after many have died that it was all a plot to just take over the land there and kill all the people so that America can populate Mexico, it's perfectly fine. Since we supported the war at first cause there was a proposed threat of WMD, we should be ok with mass genocide and taking of their land. Its just an outlandish example, but by your logic, it's ok. It shouldn't change my reasons for supporting the war even though the original reasons were completely false and cost american lives.
I never said Afghanistan was about money. I was talking about Iraq. I said I agreed with the war in Afghanistan and still do, although we don't need to be there forever. I questioned the war in Iraq when they first started talking about it, but they said there was WMD there, in that case I said let's go get them. When I realized it wa all about Halliburton making a sh-it-ton of money, I was pissed and lied to by the supposed leaders who were using the supposed "defense of my freedom" to get money and nothing else, while costing us brave American soldiers lives. BTW, we went into WWII because the Japanese bombed the living S out of Pearl Harbor, did we not? I don't think blowing up Okinawa and Nagasaki made us any money. In fact, it cost us money to rebuild what was left. The war in Iraq is costing us an exorbitant amount of money and a lot of it is going straight to Halliburton. Look it up.
Ok our quotes are eating up character space so let me start here.
To touch on your war comments, you said the following, "You consider me a democrat, I supported the wars when when they started. Then I found out it was all a sham to get big money, and I wasn't so happy to say the least."
If you support afghanistan but not Iraq, as you are saying now, which other war are we in? So the only reason you supportted Iraq was the WMD point. None of the other reasons for the Iraq war mattered to you?
You need to research WW2 history and the aftermath a bit. We profited big time during those wars..our own economy boomed....The section of the war in Africa was purely about fuel and oil....We didn't need to engage in Africa to remove Hitler from Germany...but we did...and we were never attacked by hitler....Only Japan...so engaging Hitler could be called attacking a sovereign nation unprovoked...technically.
The cost to rebuild japan was approximately 2 billion dollar and another billion in food aid. For a total to the U.S. of roughly 3 billion dollars. Right now Japan pays us between 192-250 billion dollars a year for our military presense in their country.....so yes, we are getting paid and ww2, as with all wars were about money.
I know what the cost in Iraq is. I also have an idea what the healthcare cost might be.....the difference between the two...one cost will shrink, the other will grow....guess which is which. With our budget the way it is now how can a nation afford to incur more debt...
Editted to add the japanese figures I have given are in yen....
