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stdreb27

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I don't see, US soldiers walking into a mall and shooting everyone, I don't see secret government test facilities testing bio-logical weapons on random people, I don't see US run ---- rooms. I don't see it.
 

stdreb27

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You see the problem with liberalism and why I will never vote for a democrat is that democrats don't believe in America, they equate us with communists, they accuse our troops of being terrorists, and yet they still sit and go on with their daily lives enjoying the benifits of our Great Nation. They they eat our food, then kill the cook. They are assuage their guild by wearing pink and protesting the war. Never mind they are trampling on the graves of their own sons. They don't see the difference between Stalin slaughtering millions of his own people and GW going into Iraq and freeing millions of oppressed people. They don't see the difference in the powergrab of Lennon and Stalin, Ho Chi Min, Kim Il-sung, and the liberation of Iraq from totalitarian sadaam. These skull full of mush are manipulated and used in an attempt to destroy our great country my liberal leaders who would rather us collapse and our troops die then them not be in power.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
You see the problem with liberalism and why I will never vote for a democrat is that democrats don't believe in America, they equate us with communists, they accuse our troops of being terrorists, and yet they still sit and go on with their daily lives enjoying the benifits of our Great Nation. They they eat our food, then kill the cook. They are assuage their guild by wearing pink and protesting the war. Never mind they are trampling on the graves of their own sons. They don't see the difference between Stalin slaughtering millions of his own people and GW going into Iraq and freeing millions of oppressed people. They don't see the difference in the powergrab of Lennon and Stalin, Ho Chi Min, Kim Il-sung, and the liberation of Iraq from totalitarian sadaam. These skull full of mush, and manipulated and used in an attempt to destroy our great country my liberal leaders who would rather us collapse our troops die then them not be in power.
And they don't hold their own politicans to any of the same standards they expect "the other side" to adhere too.
I've posted countless times the quotes from Clinton, Hillary, and the other leading Dems at the time of the second Iraq invasion...
 

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
And they don't hold their own politicans to any of the same standards they expect "the other side" to adhere too.
I've posted countless times the quotes from Clinton, Hillary, and the other leading Dems at the time of the second Iraq invasion...
Yep..and they always talk about how Bush is dumb...yet they scream he tricked all the democrats with his intellect regarding the war. After all, it would take a deep mind to trick thhe leaders of this country plus countless other countries.
I've never seen such a large group of haters that contradict their positions on a regular basis. Even if you hate Bush....keep it consistent regarding positions.
 

scubadoo

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
You see the problem with liberalism and why I will never vote for a democrat is that democrats don't believe in America, they equate us with communists, they accuse our troops of being terrorists, and yet they still sit and go on with their daily lives enjoying the benifits of our Great Nation. They they eat our food, then kill the cook. They are assuage their guild by wearing pink and protesting the war. Never mind they are trampling on the graves of their own sons. They don't see the difference between Stalin slaughtering millions of his own people and GW going into Iraq and freeing millions of oppressed people. They don't see the difference in the powergrab of Lennon and Stalin, Ho Chi Min, Kim Il-sung, and the liberation of Iraq from totalitarian sadaam. These skull full of mush are manipulated and used in an attempt to destroy our great country my liberal leaders who would rather us collapse and our troops die then them not be in power.
I would not paint with as broad of a brush as you do....but there is a significant portion of the democartic party that feel as you have stated. They also are well funded so they are gaining strength within the party. With this election, they have gained a bigger hold on the democratic party. I beleive all of the front runners in the democratic party went to the dailygoofs.com convention. THere is plenty hatred posted on that site and they never remove it.
Hatred is what drives this portion of the democratic party. The level of thier hatred is not good for the country.
 

stdreb27

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Personally, I've love to watch some one develop into a bush hater, I really don't understand the religious verocity of these people. I've love to see how they connect the dots so I can see what it is they really do believe and why it is manefesting in such an illogical argument.
 

scubadoo

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
Tardball, still waiting for 1 of 10 links.....I am never going to see those reports am I?
Ok, lets make this real simple. After 9/11 we said we would go after all countries and regimes that support terror (we did not give any timeline for this) The Iraqi Regime under sadaam supported terror. They paid suicide bombers money to their families to create terrorist acts . This is well documented and agreed upon by both democrats and republican. If you want I will show 10 links on this (but only after you show me the one you owe me).Therefore we were justified by these means alone for our removal of the Iraqi regime.
THE WAR WAS NOT ONLY ABOUT WMDS!!!
Terrorism is not just al qaeda and those people that did 9/11.

He/she flip flopped as the hatred for Bush outweighed any consistent position or thought process.
I doubt you will get much back in return...just inconsistency in position/posting and conspiracy theory.
Also, I beleive this individual is yet another just posting to get a response. Probably a Bush hater but really does not have any position past that.
Another fake/fraud regarding bringing any substance of personal positions/convictions....as they were all contradicted.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
I would not paint with as broad of a brush as you do....but there is a significant portion of the democartic party that feel as you have stated. They also are well funded so they are gaining strength within the party. With this election, they have gained a bigger hold on the democratic party. I beleive all of the front runners in the democratic party went to the dailygoofs.com convention. THere is plenty hatred posted on that site and they never remove it.
Hatred is what drives this portion of the democratic party. The level of thier hatred is not good for the country.
sure the average person, is not a nut, I have some close black friends that were astounded that I would vote be a republican. But after explaining why I believed in smaller government, why I don't believe that these socialist medical plans are going to work. I showed them examples of people waiting for months or years for their "free" procedure. I explained why I the NAACP and "black" leaders are detremental to equality. How welfare and people waiting for their "check" are simply being held down by their own lazyness. And how I felt republicans more closely held to my views. (but not these candidates) They asked me why I don't run for president. And they would vote for me.
Sadly, the leaders of both parties are so out of touch they don't know what it would take to truly win the hearts and minds of the dicerning folks. That broad stroke was about the democratic leaders and their kook fringe base, that is running the demcratic party. And their 2 people running for president.
 

tarball

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ScubaDoo said:
Originally Posted by Tarball
Last I checked history, Iraq invaded Kuwait...and that lead to a war you suppoted?
Goodness, I realize your hatred for Bush is deep but now you are really contradicting your positions with almost every post.
Im not contradicting myself, Its wrong to Invade another country for its resources. Saddam was wrong for the Invasion.
So why do you think its OK for us to Invade Iraq for its resources.
If Iraq didn't have its massive oil reserves, we would not be in Iraq.
Your vanity holds you in contempt of the truth.
 

1journeyman

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Tarball said:
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Im not contradicting myself, Its wrong to Invade another country for its resources. Saddam was wrong for the Invasion.
So why do you think its OK for us to Invade Iraq for its resources.
If Iraq didn't have its massive oil reserves, we would not be in Iraq.
Your vanity holds you in contempt of the truth.
That's not the only contradiction you've posted...
Moving on;
We don't believe we went into Iraq for it's resources. The fact that we've been there for years now and haven't confiscated a single drop of oil tends to lend credence to that...
You're wrong about us going into Iraq. Afghanistan is proof we don't need natural resources to go after terrorists or terror sponsoring regimes.
 

tarball

Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
You see the problem with liberalism and why I will never vote for a democrat is that democrats don't believe in America, they equate us with communists, they accuse our troops of being terrorists, and yet they still sit and go on with their daily lives enjoying the benifits of our Great Nation. They they eat our food, then kill the cook. They are assuage their guild by wearing pink and protesting the war. Never mind they are trampling on the graves of their own sons. They don't see the difference between Stalin slaughtering millions of his own people and GW going into Iraq and freeing millions of oppressed people. They don't see the difference in the powergrab of Lennon and Stalin, Ho Chi Min, Kim Il-sung, and the liberation of Iraq from totalitarian sadaam. These skull full of mush are manipulated and used in an attempt to destroy our great country my liberal leaders who would rather us collapse and our troops die then them not be in power.
This comment represents complete insanity.. Dude you need serious help.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Tarball said:
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Im not contradicting myself, Its wrong to Invade another country for its resources. Saddam was wrong for the Invasion.
So why do you think its OK for us to Invade Iraq for its resources.
If Iraq didn't have its massive oil reserves, we would not be in Iraq.
Your vanity holds you in contempt of the truth.
Funny earlier you said it was wrong to preemptively invade anyone. We Iraq didn't invade us why should we have been engaged in the first installment of the gulf war.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Tarball
This comment represents complete insanity.. Dude you need serious help.
Actually, his examples come from posts made on this forum in the last couple of weeks... many from earlier in this very thread.
I agree it's insanity, but it's the truth. A very vocal group of far left are doing exactly what he said they are doing.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
stdreb27 said:
Originally Posted by Tarball
Funny earlier you said it was wrong to preemptively invade anyone. We Iraq didn't invade us why should we have been engaged in the first installment of the gulf war.
He also said we were attacked for spending too much on our military and that we should spend "defensively" as I recall.
 

tarball

Member
1journeyman said:
Originally Posted by Tarball
That's not the only contradiction you've posted...
Moving on;
We don't believe we went into Iraq for it's resources. The fact that we've been there for years now and haven't confiscated a single drop of oil tends to lend credence to that...
You're wrong about us going into Iraq. Afghanistan is proof we don't need natural resources to go after terrorists or terror sponsoring regimes.
We can't steal the oil, all oil must be sold under & thru law. The oil belongs to the Iraq people. So therefor we can't "just take it". But, what we can do is dictate what price we buy it at & how its disrupted. That is why we are there! To secure the reserves for our best interests. The Iraq leaders must agree to our terms of Price to be bought & distribution. & they are not doing it.
That's why the oil isn't moving out of Iraq. The people of Iraq are refusing our demands of the oil.
 

tarball

Member
ScubaDoo said:
Originally Posted by Tarball
You posted that spending money for the militray will lead to war and attack.
Under your theory..there is no need to spend a penny becuase we will be left alone.
Now you are saying, we need money to defend our baorders.....but yet, if we do not spend we will not be attacked..so why spend?
I'm simply trying to follow the logic or lack thereof.
Now, it appears it is your position that we somehow can only spend on defensive weapons and this is okay. Can you please define these weapons?
If I say to you, I'm going to buy a hand gun to protect my home. But i use it rob my neighbor in his home.
What would you say I bought the hand gun for?
 

1journeyman

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Tarball said:

Originally Posted by 1journeyman
We can't steal the oil, all oil must be sold under & thru law. The oil belongs to the Iraq people. So therefor we can't "just take it". But, what we can do is dictate what price we buy it at & how its disrupted. That is why we are there! To secure the reserves for our best interests. The Iraq leaders must agree to our terms of Price to be bought & distribution. & they are not doing it.
That's why the oil isn't moving out of Iraq. The people of Iraq are refusing our demands of the oil.
Tarball, where do you get your info? Seriously?
First off, Iraq is a founding member of OPEC. So much for us regulating at what price they sell oil at.

Second: "Iraq’s inability to secure crude pipelines in the north has meant that exports are generally routed through the southern port of Basrah. According to IRMO/ITAO
, crude oil exports have fallen from a post-war high of around 2.0 million bbl/d in 2004, to an average of 1.5 million bbl/d in 2006
. However, there is some marginal improvement recently mainly due to the intermittent ability to export crude through a northern pipeline, and improved loading capabilities in Basrah. In June 2007, Iraq issued its first tender in almost six months to sell Kirkuk oil. Iraq’s oil exports are under the domain of the Iraqi parastatal State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO). The majority of oil exports go to refineries in Asia, including China and India.
..."
So they have refused to sell their oil huh? Better hurry and tell them that. Cause looks to me like they are selling a heck of a lot, primarily to India and China.
 

tarball

Member
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Sleep good knowing the war on terror is keeping you safe.
I realize now you are simply a Bush hater. That's okay.....but try and stick to one position.
You'd be better off riding your conspiracy theory to the beach.


Ridiculous!!!..... not to mention a worthless comment.
 

scubadoo

Active Member
Tarball said:
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
If I say to you, I'm going to buy a hand gun to protect my home. But i use it rob my neighbor in his home.
What would you say I bought the hand gun for?
At then time of militray spending...you cannot determine a tank that is used for defense or offense..can you?
Besides, it was you position that if we do not sepnd money on the military...we will not be attacked.
many military weapons cannot be differentiated between offense/defense.
At the time of purchase of the handgun, no one knows the reason for the purchase besides the purchaser.
I thought it was your position if we spent money on the military, then we will be attacked. It matters not in your exmaple the purpose for the purchase...becuase if it does not take place...we will not be attacked according to your earlier post.
 
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