Republican vs. Democrat

jmick

Active Member
Originally Posted by mfp1016
http:///forum/post/2482734
My point still stands as valid. Sports and clubs do not go all day long. By the way, I played soccer and swam. I'm guessing you don't realize that football games have an end, as do their practices.
It doesn't matter when they start or end, I'd be willing to bet that kids who participate in any kind of after school activity are less likely to do drugs, drink or engage in underage ---.
Haha, I was at a few wrestling tourny's that never seemed to end...
 

jmick

Active Member
Originally Posted by fishyCPA
http:///forum/post/2482740
I think Hillary has quite a few endorsements from quite a few lobbyists
I certainly agree with that, I not a fan of Hillary and I think she'd be bad for our country.
 

fishycpa

Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2482743
I certainly agree with that, I not a fan of Hillary and I think she'd be bad for our country.
I didn't mean to imply anything with my statement, just trying to show that lobyist endorsements come from both sides, right or wrong as that issue may be.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2482715
I'm guessing you didn't participate in many high school sports or activities. Most of my practices were from 4:00 till 6:30 and then homework after that. I remember a lot of tournaments and games on friday and saturday nights.
And I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience working with teens and spending times in their High Schools and Junior Highs. Studies have consistently shown that most teens have --- at their home their first time.
 

jmick

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2482748
I'm with you.
Her and that Obama guy = bad for country.
The biggest issue for me is what is our next president going to do to help the economy and keep manufacturing here in the states. I do like some of the things that Barak is focusing on such as going after preditory credit card practices, raising the minimum wage, investing in US manufacturing. That said, I haven't seen a whole lot of substance on anything yet.
 

fishycpa

Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2482773
The biggest issue for me is what is our next president going to do to help the economy and keep manufacturing here in the states.
Than why weren't you a Romney supporter!!! The only candidate to come from the private sector. That is his bread and butter, the economy. Now we are due for major spending and tax hikes.
 

socal57che

Active Member

Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2482773
The biggest issue for me is what is our next president going to do to help the economy and keep manufacturing here in the states. I do like some of the things that Barak is focusing on such as going after preditory credit card practices, raising the minimum wage,
investing in US manufacturing. That said, I haven't seen a whole lot of substance on anything yet.
Every time someone raises the minimum wage it takes money out of my pocket.
No thanks.
 

digitydash

Active Member
Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2482792
Every time someone raises the minimum wage it takes money out of my pocket.
No thanks.
Can you live on $7 hr?I need a leaste 1k a week to live that alot of extra jobs I would need at that pay.Thats why I ended up starting my own buisness.If you ask me if you got a good worker that shouldn't be a problem paying them good money.Unless you own a fast food joint.
 

socal57che

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Originally Posted by digitydash
http:///forum/post/2482816
Can you live on $7 hr?I need a leaste 1k a week to live that alot of extra jobs I would need at that pay.Thats why I ended up starting my own buisness.If you ask me if you got a good worker that shouldn't be a problem paying them good money
.Unless you own a fast food joint.
This is the key.
Minimum wage increase across the board only drives prices up. Where do you think the money to pay employees comes from?
 

rylan1

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Originally Posted by digitydash
http:///forum/post/2482816
Can you live on $7 hr?I need a leaste 1k a week to live that alot of extra jobs I would need at that pay.Thats why I ended up starting my own buisness.If you ask me if you got a good worker that shouldn't be a problem paying them good money.Unless you own a fast food joint.
I think minimum wage should adjust to inflation... Just look at gas, the cost of everything is going up.
 

kjr_trig

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2481831
Dear god, how could this man be a front runner and a possible candidate?
Q: “What about grants for --- education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush’s policy, which is just abstinence?”
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”
Q: “So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?”
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “You’ve stumped me.”
Q: “I mean, I think you’d probably agree it probably does help stop it?”
Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”
Q: “But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: ‘No, we’re not going to distribute them,’ knowing that?”
Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) “Get me Coburn’s thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn’s paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I’ve never gotten into these issues before.”
Yes, this is really at the top of my list of important issues that I decide whom to vote for....Forget foreign policy, economic policy, border safety etc.....What is your stance on --- education? That's how I will decide whom to vote for

This is an issue for parents and state governments...Not the President.
 

sigmachris

Active Member
Originally Posted by Jmick
http:///forum/post/2482742
It doesn't matter when they start or end, I'd be willing to bet that kids who participate in any kind of after school activity are less likely to do drugs, drink or engage in underage ---.
Haha, I was at a few wrestling tourny's that never seemed to end...
Not at my high school 15 years ago which was upper middle class suburbia. The jocks were hosting the parties, closely in tow with the cheerleaders, half the student counsel, and most of the drama / play thesbians.
After school programs for middle school and early high school yes, I can see where it would divert their attention away from drugs and alcohol.
 

sigmachris

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As for giving out condoms in school, probably not the right approach but it is not the President's job to worry about. My kids are under 3 so I am a few years away from dealing with the horizontal mambo.
What I have a problem with is all of these V-iagra and Cialis commercials on prime time and midday TV and radio. I can just see 4 to 10 years olds (boys and girls) asking their parents what Erectile Disfunction is? I am willing to bet that some parents have had to explain E.D. before disclosing the secrets of Santa.
 

digitydash

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Originally Posted by socal57che
http:///forum/post/2482939
This is the key.
Minimum wage increase across the board only drives prices up. Where do you think the money to pay employees comes from?
Lets look at just what Ryan sayed gas ok it takes you $50 to fill up your car to go to work.Lets just do the math without any taxes removed on a 40hr week at $7hr which is $280 so your down to $230 already no rent,power,food,or phone.I don't know how prices for rent are their but you can't get into anything here less then $900 a month and that a shack.We wonder why people start selling drugs to survive.
 

groupergenius

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Originally Posted by digitydash
http:///forum/post/2483138
Lets look at just what Ryan sayed gas ok it takes you $50 to fill up your car to go to work.Lets just do the math without any taxes removed on a 40hr week at $7hr which is $280 so your down to $230 already no rent,power,food,or phone.I don't know how prices for rent are their but you can't get into anything here less then $900 a month and that a shack.We wonder why people start selling drugs to survive.

People start dealing drugs because it the easy way.
I started at where I work 20 years ago. I started at $6.5 an hour and was just basically a helper. I worked my butt off and took my break times and after work to learn every aspect I could about what all we do. With in a couple years, there was nothing, I mean nothing in that shop I couldn't do. I wasn't content on just being able to do it, but allways taking the extra step to be the best at it. Able to step in anywhere in there and get the job done faster, better, and more efficient.
12 years ago I was promoted to the position of running the whole show. Basically it is MY shop with the owner coming around once in a while. I'll toot my own horn because I worked for it. And I make a whole lot more than $6.5 an hour now. Actually, my guys average between $18-$22.
Basically what I'm saying is, don't settle for minimum wage and piss and moan about it. Hard work and a great work ethic still count for something.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/2483183
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Basically what I'm saying is, don't settle for minimum wage and piss and moan about it. Hard work and a great work ethic still count for something.
Exactly. Minimum wage is for high school students working 10 hours a week after school.
The vast majority of adults working minimum wage jobs are people that made a series of destructive decisions and now are paying for it. The also have numerous other "welfare" type options for more assistance.
 

digitydash

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Grouper that was 20 yrs ago.Gas was $1 gal and cost of living was nothing compaired to what it is now .I wouldn't compair prices from 20 yrs ago to now that a far cry from relistic if you ask me.Minimum wage is hardly any higher than that now.If you were starting again like that do you think you could make it?
 

oscardeuce

Active Member
Here's the difference:
Republicans ( conservative) Believe in the People (liberty) as the answer to the problem
Democrats ( liberals) Believe in the government as the answer to the problem.
 
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