Republicans aren't Americans?

[sickboy]

So, anyone catch Cyndi McCain tonight? She said something to the effect of: We need to take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats. Shouldn't these be one in the same? Is she that rich and disconnected?
(note: I didn't actually see her speak, so I apologize if the media lies...happens all the time. I just saw a clip between hurricane coverage)

 

[el guapo]

Hmmmmmm I wear the same hat everyday . I don't have a Republican hat or an American hat but I do have a Famous stars and straps Family hat with the F colored in with orange and green so it makes an Irish flag.

I must not be an real American republican .

Please tell me I am not a Demarcate

 

[jacknjill]

I think she meant it as a lets not seperate ourselves into Repubs and Democrats, lets come together and see ourselves as Americans before anything.

 

[kjr_trig]

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2743558
So, anyone catch Cyndi McCain tonight? She said something to the effect of: We need to take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats. Shouldn't these be one in the same? Is she that rich and disconnected?
(note: I didn't actually see her speak, so I apologize if the media lies...happens all the time. I just saw a clip between hurricane coverage)
Context is everything, she was speaking to the Republican convention. She may be rich and disconnected but at least she's proud of her country

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by JacknJill
http:///forum/post/2743602
I think she meant it as a lets not seperate ourselves into Repubs and Democrats, lets come together and see ourselves as Americans before anything.

I agree. Do what's good for the country, stop doing what's only good for the party. I'm 100% behind this train of thought. If we don't stop the corporate lobbiests they will continue to run the country instead of our votes.

 

[jerthunter]

Yes, she is THAT disconnected with the rest of the world. Everyone with a bit of sense knows that a hat doesn't make you American, its the small flag pin you wear on your suit coat.

 

[jennythebugg]

 

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by Jerthunter
http:///forum/post/2743702
Yes, she is THAT disconnected with the rest of the world. Everyone with a bit of sense knows that a hat doesn't make you American, its the small flag pin you wear on your suit coat.
That's good!!

 

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2743700
I agree. Do what's good for the country, stop doing what's only good for the party. I'm 100% behind this train of thought. If we don't stop the corporate lobbiests they will continue to run the country instead of our votes.
So....this is what got me when I heard it. A republican would do something that is only good for the party and not good for the country?
I now it seems like a small thing, it just hit me weird.

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2743793
So....this is what got me when I heard it. A republican would do something that is only good for the party and not good for the country?
I now it seems like a small thing, it just hit me weird.
Both parties are guilty of this, and YES, they have been doing it, a LOT!!

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by JacknJill
http:///forum/post/2743602
I think she meant it as a lets not seperate ourselves into Repubs and Democrats, lets come together and see ourselves as Americans before anything.
That's all well and good, but it's never going to happen. Remember the euphoria for being united after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks? Well, that went out of vogue fairly quickly.
Personally, I believe we should try to be a united country as much as possible, but not at the expense of ideals I truly believe in.
btw, I generally support conservative/Republican planks.

 

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2743826
Both parties are guilty of this, and YES, they have been doing it, a LOT!!
So, republican or democrat (doesn't matter in this), a political "leader" of the country would knowingly do something they thought wasn't good for the country? I understand that they may think they are doing something good and it turns out bad, but knowingly hurting your own country for your own gain???
Like I don't think socialized medicine would be good for the country, but those who are pushing it do....or I don't think an unchecked free market is good for the country, but those who push for it do. That's different than saying "I know we will gain at everyone else's expense"

 

[bang guy]

Yes, I believe it's done and I believe it's done often.
The $300,000,000 Bridge to Ketchikan, do you think that's a good use for federal funds? Why was this approved? My guess is that it helped some republican(s) get reelected.
Hillary facilitated oursourcing hundreds of IT jobs out of Western NY across to India. Do you think this benefitted her constituents or did it put more money into the democratic election coffers?
There are THOUSANDS of examples just like this. Spending money to help the party has become so common that you don't even recognise what's happening.

 

[sickboy]

Ok...I see your point. And the more I think about it, the more I realize that lobbyist's are the ones who really control washington anyway, and there only motive is profit. So, I'm done arguing I guess.

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2743911
Ok...I see your point. And the more I think about it, the more I realize that lobbyist's are the ones who really control washington anyway, and there only motive is profit. So, I'm done arguing I guess.

Dang, I hope we weren't arguing. I thought we were just working toward a common understanding.

 

[sickboy]

Well, yeah

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2743872
Yes, I believe it's done and I believe it's done often.
The $300,000,000 Bridge to Ketchikan, do you think that's a good use for federal funds? Why was this approved? My guess is that it helped some republican(s) get reelected.
Hillary facilitated oursourcing hundreds of IT jobs out of Western NY across to India. Do you think this benefitted her constituents or did it put more money into the democratic election coffers?
There are THOUSANDS of examples just like this. Spending money to help the party has become so common that you don't even recognise what's happening.
I was digging around looking at the bridge deal the other day after hearing Palin was supportive of it at one point. I am not saying it was a good project but there was a WHOLE lot more involved than a bridge to an island of 50 people as was portrayed by the media and most politicians. Turns out that area is the point of entry for cruise ships and about a million tourists hit the one island every year. They bridge would allow the economic expansion blah blah blah. Still a questionable project but not as cut and dry as it has been portrayed.

 

[bang guy]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2744001
I was digging around looking at the bridge deal the other day after hearing Palin was supportive of it at one point. I am not saying it was a good project but there was a WHOLE lot more involved than a bridge to an island of 50 people as was portrayed by the media and most politicians.
Yes, of course there was. Politicians wanting $300,000,000 spent in their state regarless of need or benefit. The locals wanted the money spent on Katrina recovery, the politicians didn't.
Have you found a valid reason to build this thing?

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by Bang Guy
http:///forum/post/2744003
Yes, of course there was. Politicians wanting $300,000,000 spent in their state regarless of need or benefit. The locals wanted the money spent on Katrina recovery, the politicians didn't.
Have you found a valid reason to build this thing?

You caught me in the middle of an edit. Here's the story I read on it
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/alaska-...22074609990001
Ketchikan is Alaska's entry port for northbound cruise ships that bring more than 1 million visitors yearly. Every flight into Gravina Island requires a 15-minute ferry ride to reach the more densely populated Revillagigedo Island.
The town - seven blocks wide and eight miles long - has little room to grow. Local officials have said access to Gravina Island, population 50, is needed for the town and its economy to grow.
They called the state's decision premature, saying it came without warning.
"For somebody who touts process and transparency in getting projects done, I'm disappointed and taken aback," said state Rep. Kyle Johansen, R-Ketchikan. "We worked 30 years to get funding for this priority project."
U.S. Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young, both Republicans, championed the project through Congress two years ago, securing more than $200 million for the bridge between Revillagigedo and Gravina islands.