Republicans aren't Americans?
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jerthunter
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I know when I was there, Ketchikan, I kind of enjoyed the secluded atmosphere. The boat ride I took from what the guy up there called 'town' (one building with 6 or so bunks and a small lunch room with coffee) to the more populated part (they had just gotten a walmart I believe) was rather enjoyable.
Having said all that, I have no idea if this bridge was a good idea or just a way to line one's own pockets, but it was nice to remember the nearly 2 days I got to spend up in Alaska during the tourist offseason.
Having said all that, I have no idea if this bridge was a good idea or just a way to line one's own pockets, but it was nice to remember the nearly 2 days I got to spend up in Alaska during the tourist offseason.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2743558
So, anyone catch Cyndi McCain tonight? She said something to the effect of: We need to take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats. Shouldn't these be one in the same? Is she that rich and disconnected?
(note: I didn't actually see her speak, so I apologize if the media lies...happens all the time. I just saw a clip between hurricane coverage)
I don't think it is a "bad thing" to say, simply reminding people that their loyalty lies with the country not the party.
I do however thing that many on both sides choose party or themselves first. You can look at the arguments they use to defend their positions. If they are particularly weak, or just stupid.
For instance, remember when Iraq wasn't looking rosy. The democrats jumping on the bandwagon saying stuff like. "iraq is lost" or calling our troops murderers and rapists. (when I think all of them were aquitted.) How can calling a war lost be "good for the country" and not the party?
http:///forum/post/2743558
So, anyone catch Cyndi McCain tonight? She said something to the effect of: We need to take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats. Shouldn't these be one in the same? Is she that rich and disconnected?
(note: I didn't actually see her speak, so I apologize if the media lies...happens all the time. I just saw a clip between hurricane coverage)
I don't think it is a "bad thing" to say, simply reminding people that their loyalty lies with the country not the party.
I do however thing that many on both sides choose party or themselves first. You can look at the arguments they use to defend their positions. If they are particularly weak, or just stupid.
For instance, remember when Iraq wasn't looking rosy. The democrats jumping on the bandwagon saying stuff like. "iraq is lost" or calling our troops murderers and rapists. (when I think all of them were aquitted.) How can calling a war lost be "good for the country" and not the party?
reefraff
Active Member
Originally Posted by Jerthunter
http:///forum/post/2744035
Ie.
Having said all that, I have no idea if this bridge was a good idea or just a way to line one's own pockets, but it was nice to remember the nearly 2 days I got to spend up in Alaska during the tourist offseason.
All of the above
Like you said, the boat ride is kinda cool I imagine. Ever been to Seattle? They use ferries, that was a pretty neat ride.
http:///forum/post/2744035
Ie.
Having said all that, I have no idea if this bridge was a good idea or just a way to line one's own pockets, but it was nice to remember the nearly 2 days I got to spend up in Alaska during the tourist offseason.
All of the above
Like you said, the boat ride is kinda cool I imagine. Ever been to Seattle? They use ferries, that was a pretty neat ride.
texasmetal
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2744113
I don't think it is a "bad thing" to say, simply reminding people that their loyalty lies with the country not the party.
I do however thing that many on both sides choose party or themselves first. You can look at the arguments they use to defend their positions. If they are particularly weak, or just stupid.
For instance, remember when Iraq wasn't looking rosy. The democrats jumping on the bandwagon saying stuff like. "iraq is lost" or calling our troops murderers and rapists. (when I think all of them were aquitted.) How can calling a war lost be "good for the country" and not the party?
I know lots of conservatives (several family members) who say they'd vote for a child molesting Republican before they would vote for a democrat... Geez. How assanine.
http:///forum/post/2744113
I don't think it is a "bad thing" to say, simply reminding people that their loyalty lies with the country not the party.
I do however thing that many on both sides choose party or themselves first. You can look at the arguments they use to defend their positions. If they are particularly weak, or just stupid.
For instance, remember when Iraq wasn't looking rosy. The democrats jumping on the bandwagon saying stuff like. "iraq is lost" or calling our troops murderers and rapists. (when I think all of them were aquitted.) How can calling a war lost be "good for the country" and not the party?
I know lots of conservatives (several family members) who say they'd vote for a child molesting Republican before they would vote for a democrat... Geez. How assanine.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2744439
I know lots of conservatives (several family members) who say they'd vote for a child molesting Republican before they would vote for a democrat... Geez. How assanine.
well, across the isle, they voted for a guy who cheated on his wife numerous times, then you have that blind NJ governor who god only knows what he did...
So I don't think that is a horribly unfair comment...
http:///forum/post/2744439
I know lots of conservatives (several family members) who say they'd vote for a child molesting Republican before they would vote for a democrat... Geez. How assanine.
well, across the isle, they voted for a guy who cheated on his wife numerous times, then you have that blind NJ governor who god only knows what he did...
texasmetal
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2744471
well, across the isle, they voted for a guy who cheated on his wife numerous times, then you have that blind NJ governor who god only knows what he did...
So I don't think that is a horribly unfair comment...
Just saying, it's ridiculous to vote for the party and not the man. Or woman...
http:///forum/post/2744471
well, across the isle, they voted for a guy who cheated on his wife numerous times, then you have that blind NJ governor who god only knows what he did...
Just saying, it's ridiculous to vote for the party and not the man. Or woman...
dogfaceman
Member
I'm a dem, but cmon we all know what she meant. I hate how people take these things.
rabbit_72
Member
I just want to say, how refreshing it is to talk about politics here with you folks rather than the site I would normally go to. it is nice to see people maybe not always agreeing, but always being respectful! Good Job!
As to what Cindy McCain said, I did not see her speech, but if all you heard of her speech was from the media and not from her in it's entirety, then it is best if you take it like a grain of salt. The media loves to take words and twist them around until it makes a good, juicy story. Always do your own homework regarding the election. Don't count on the media to give completely unbiased opinions or an accurate accounting of political events.
As to what Cindy McCain said, I did not see her speech, but if all you heard of her speech was from the media and not from her in it's entirety, then it is best if you take it like a grain of salt. The media loves to take words and twist them around until it makes a good, juicy story. Always do your own homework regarding the election. Don't count on the media to give completely unbiased opinions or an accurate accounting of political events.
texasmetal
Active Member
Originally Posted by rabbit_72
http:///forum/post/2744592
I just want to say, how refreshing it is to talk about politics here with you folks rather than the site I would normally go to. it is nice to see people maybe not always agreeing, but always being respectful! Good Job!
You haven't read too many of the political threads here, huh?
This is pretty tame. I like objective, debatable conversation. Most of them aren't like this.
http:///forum/post/2744592
I just want to say, how refreshing it is to talk about politics here with you folks rather than the site I would normally go to. it is nice to see people maybe not always agreeing, but always being respectful! Good Job!
You haven't read too many of the political threads here, huh?
This is pretty tame. I like objective, debatable conversation. Most of them aren't like this.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by rabbit_72
http:///forum/post/2744592
I just want to say, how refreshing it is to talk about politics here with you folks rather than the site I would normally go to. it is nice to see people maybe not always agreeing, but always being respectful! Good Job!
As to what Cindy McCain said, I did not see her speech, but if all you heard of her speech was from the media and not from her in it's entirety, then it is best if you take it like a grain of salt. The media loves to take words and twist them around until it makes a good, juicy story. Always do your own homework regarding the election. Don't count on the media to give completely unbiased opinions or an accurate accounting of political events.
For the most part it is pretty mellow.
http:///forum/post/2744592
I just want to say, how refreshing it is to talk about politics here with you folks rather than the site I would normally go to. it is nice to see people maybe not always agreeing, but always being respectful! Good Job!
As to what Cindy McCain said, I did not see her speech, but if all you heard of her speech was from the media and not from her in it's entirety, then it is best if you take it like a grain of salt. The media loves to take words and twist them around until it makes a good, juicy story. Always do your own homework regarding the election. Don't count on the media to give completely unbiased opinions or an accurate accounting of political events.
For the most part it is pretty mellow.
dogfaceman
Member
Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2744594
You haven't read too many of the political threads here, huh?
This is pretty tame. I like objective, debatable conversation. Most of them aren't like this.
This one is pretty mellow but some of the others get into heated debates but usually don't go into name calling or anything like that.
http:///forum/post/2744594
You haven't read too many of the political threads here, huh?
This is pretty tame. I like objective, debatable conversation. Most of them aren't like this.
This one is pretty mellow but some of the others get into heated debates but usually don't go into name calling or anything like that.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2744607
This one is pretty mellow but some of the others get into heated debates but usually don't go into name calling or anything like that.
I wouldn't call it heated as much as "passionate explanation of personal political views"
But I do understand what the poster is saying, typically on forums of a political nature, the riff raff shows up, you know the Bush blew up the levies crowd? Or, well I'm sure the lefties think I'm the right wing version of that.
http:///forum/post/2744607
This one is pretty mellow but some of the others get into heated debates but usually don't go into name calling or anything like that.
I wouldn't call it heated as much as "passionate explanation of personal political views"
But I do understand what the poster is saying, typically on forums of a political nature, the riff raff shows up, you know the Bush blew up the levies crowd? Or, well I'm sure the lefties think I'm the right wing version of that.
texasmetal
Active Member
Passionate would be one way to put it. "I'm right and you're stupid" would be another.
stdreb27
Active Member
Originally Posted by TexasMetal
http:///forum/post/2744619
Passionate would be one way to put it. "I'm right and you're stupid" would be another.
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
http:///forum/post/2744619
Passionate would be one way to put it. "I'm right and you're stupid" would be another.
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
rabbit_72
Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
dogfaceman
Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
texasmetal
Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
That's just my interpretation of some of the comments I get, or read. And you can't tell me it's never that way. I find it funny that someone could think their opinion is right. I'm highly opinionated and critical of certain things but I'm always appreciative of an informed, differing opinion. It might sway my own, after all, if relayed to me in a respectful manner.
http:///forum/post/2744621
Why would I think something, if it wasn't right? I'm not going to intentionally think something that is incorrect.
That's just my interpretation of some of the comments I get, or read. And you can't tell me it's never that way. I find it funny that someone could think their opinion is right. I'm highly opinionated and critical of certain things but I'm always appreciative of an informed, differing opinion. It might sway my own, after all, if relayed to me in a respectful manner.