Russia invades Georgia

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724076
http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm
check this chart(use the link above, this paragraph is not about the chart below) out you may need to upload the chart, you can see how IMO the 2nd worst president ever Reagan had large amounts of debt increasing greatly over the years, then bush #1 comes in and makes it even worse, than as you see Clinton comes in and makes large improvements nearly balancing out the horrid debt slope that Reagan and bush#1 teamed up on, then guess what happens next bush 2 comes in and increases the debt by an alarming rate of increasing our national debt $500,000,000,000 per year and that rate is increasing, so don't say Clinton wasn't a good debt manager,

and yeah i bet countries would kill for these inflation rates

next time do some research
our country is in a recession deal with it
Your ignorance is stunning

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724800
he cut taxes for the rich, just like bush did, mainly to help out themselves and there rich buddies, one of the main reasons we have a large debt. and I love how bush says that The Russian Federation cant invade Georgia, while he invaded Baghdad, what a hypocrite, and The Russian Federation is going to overthrow their leader and most likely reclaim Georgia. And bush cant do anything about it.
Let's compare Iraq and Georgia, shall we?
*Iraq- Lead by crazed dictator, who used WMDs in the past, who supporter terrorism globally, who balked at 17 UN Resolutions, who denied inspectors access to sites agreed upon in a formal peace agreement, who routinely allowed the torture and r ape of political enemies, ethnic minorities, and people he didn't like...
*Georgia- Democracy.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724856
... anyways explain to me this why did we invade iraq?

With pleasure...
*17 UN Resolutions
*Joint Resolution to use Force passed by Congress calling for military force if Saddam didn't comply
*Every major global Intel Service in the world (Britain, Israel, Russian, German, Chinese, German, French, etc.) said he had and was pursuing WMDs.
*Denial of full access to sites to UN inspectors as called for in the Gulf War treaty.
*Repeated attacks against allied planes in the No Fly Zone.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724856
if you buy what? that they cut taxes for the rich? thats the "trickle down theory", anyways explain to me this why did we invade iraq?

great, still haven't answered my question. Typical of a liberal, throw out all kinds of wild nonsensical accusations and theories. While clumsily dodging any question regarding his "beliefs".
btw, when the highest tax bracket is 70% and your country is in a MAJOR and ACTUAL recession, I think cutting taxes would be wise... And it proved to be.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2725170
great, still haven't answered my question. Typical of a liberal, throw out all kinds of wild nonsensical accusations and theories. While clumsily dodging any question regarding his "beliefs".
btw, when the highest tax bracket is 70% and your country is in a MAJOR and ACTUAL recession, I think cutting taxes would be wise... And it proved to be.

Come on, there are plenty of good liberals out there. Don't lump them in with this troll

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2725206
Come on, there are plenty of good liberals out there. Don't lump them in with this troll
lol good liberal is an oxymoron

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2725361
lol good liberal is an oxymoron

Hey, you got to leave a few around to remind people why they shouldn't vote for them

About 10 years ago I got involved in city politics where I lived. It was a group of more middle of the road Dems and Republicans and independants getting together to do battle with the New Party which is about the same mentality of the Daily Kos crowd. You start working with "liberals" on more local issues you find out they really have little in common with people like Pelosi or Obama. Thats why I try to be specific about the difference. Some of the stuff liberals come up with I don't support but you can actually see a thought process behind it that can be understood. Left wingers? It will just give you a headache trying to figure out what or if they are thinking

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2725374
Hey, you got to leave a few around to remind people why they shouldn't vote for them

About 10 years ago I got involved in city politics where I lived. It was a group of more middle of the road Dems and Republicans and independants getting together to do battle with the New Party which is about the same mentality of the Daily Kos crowd. You start working with "liberals" on more local issues you find out they really have little in common with people like Pelosi or Obama. Thats why I try to be specific about the difference. Some of the stuff liberals come up with I don't support but you can actually see a thought process behind it that can be understood. Left wingers? It will just give you a headache trying to figure out what or if they are thinking

Then by definition they aren't liberals. I agree, on the local level there aren't the absolute nut cases that there are on the national level. One of the reasons Bush was soo successful in texas. He worked with people with a level head but a D next to their name. Bush's biggest failing was not realize that on the national level you can't make the assumption that a liberal is interested in the national well being but simply interested in promoting their own agenda.
It is quite clear, a defeat in iraq would have irrevocably harmed us. But democrats were willing to declare Iraq lost, our soldiers rapists and murderers, and equating us to Nazis and Soviets. Bush had no idea that our biggest enemy was on the other side of the isle.

 

[beth]

This has turned into a "bash the other party" thread, in my view, rather than a topic that is more meaningful and relevant, such as: Russia invades Georgia.
If this topic is no longer of interest, then let it die. What's left is a few folks preaching to the choir, which may be better to go to PM or email for that.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2725491
Then by definition they aren't liberals. I agree, on the local level there aren't the absolute nut cases that there are on the national level. One of the reasons Bush was soo successful in texas. He worked with people with a level head but a D next to their name. Bush's biggest failing was not realize that on the national level you can't make the assumption that a liberal is interested in the national well being but simply interested in promoting their own agenda.
It is quite clear, a defeat in iraq would have irrevocably harmed us. But democrats were willing to declare Iraq lost, our soldiers rapists and murderers, and equating us to Nazis and Soviets. Bush had no idea that our biggest enemy was on the other side of the isle.
Yeah, how about that toad from washington state McDurmott. Talking crap about a sitting president while on foreign soil. Had that happened even 20 years ago the Democrat party still had enough class that they would have bounced him out on his fat head. Now you have William Jefferson caught red handed taking a 100,000 bribe and they are still supporting he re-election efforts. At least when a Republican gets caught the party tries to force them out.