Russia invades Georgia

darthtang aw

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oh....this thread is good......lots of good reading. (yep jack and coke kicking in)
If memory serves correctly guapo, he was at one point working with the CIA but I believe it was in direct relation to the USSR, the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.
 

el guapo

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2724261
oh....this thread is good......lots of good reading. (yep jack and coke kicking in)
If memory serves correctly guapo, he was at one point working with the CIA but I believe it was in direct relation to the USSR, the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing.
I was going to say that earlier . But I figured somebody would bust my chops for being a cheeseball .
I have no doubts that Bin Laden was tied to the CIA at some point in time . But then again at one point in time poland was a hardline communist country . Germany was Nazi ocupied then torn in two and became a communist lead country. The french where in vietnam long before we were In this world nothing is set in stone . One generations enemy is anothers friend .
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2723841
that was a genocide and i don't support that in any way, but for instance in Iraq Sudam Hussein was protecting Iraqis now the Sunnis and Shiites are going to fight over the region causing horrible deaths. The Russian Federation is slaughtering people, we cant just act on a guess.

I highly suspect the couple of hundred thousand Kurds in Northern Iraq would probably argue that Saddam was "protecting" them. I also highly
doubt the victims of the r ape rooms, tortures cells, those fed to lions, etc. ever felt "protected".
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724127
i was just saying we are in a recession( really its an opinion because people are always going to argue over whether we are in it or not) and i was just showing how the value of the USD has dropped which does affect our economy, and as for Reagan he did use money to stop the soviets, but i think he used too much, also i thought he wasn't very Eco-friendly, but the thing that got me was that he was very sneaky, i mean iran-gate and giving weapons to Afghanistan( i know it was to help destroy the soviets but it lead to bad stuff like the talabins how osama binladin got his power) i just dont think he was that great
Please google Charlie Wilson, or rent a dvd. Supplying the Afghans was hardly a covert op being run by President Reagan.
The man brought about the downfall of the Soviet Union and freed over 100 million eastern Europeans. Ya, he was a slacker.
 

el guapo

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Some people are not smart enough to read a book, paper watch the news or even rent a video . Others just choose to argue about things they don't have a firm grasp on .
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2724291
Some people are not smart enough to read a book, paper watch the news or even rent a video . Others just choose to argue about things they don't have a firm grasp on .
Like using statistics used to measure stocks as proof we're in a recession then telling some one with a BA in Economics to do research...
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724482
http://thedrew102.blogspot.com/2008/...dent-ever.html
read this
This is why there is no hope for this country........people take their facts and opinions from bloggers now days....
We broke down ever reason you have posted why you think he was the worst presidnet ever. We have refuted your evidence...the proper response is to show evidence to back up your claims....and you give me a blog written by some guy for all I know that still lives in his mom's basement.
 

dogfaceman

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our country is messed up because they allow some idiot named george w. bush trick them into thinking there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq, and then later if we leave iraq the usa is in danger
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724481
reagan was a moron, did anyone actually think his "trickle down" theory would work?
Supply-side economics does work, even liberals will in a round about way acknowledge that. Most economists who aren't working for socialist think tanks think it, and you can just look at the growth we've had since Reagan as proof.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724509
our country is messed up because they allow some idiot named george w. bush trick them into thinking there are weapons of mass destruction in iraq, and then later if we leave iraq the usa is in danger

Do I need to go back and quote Clinton saying that Iraq has WMD's too? Besides what does that say about you, and your leaders who fell the the idiots ruse?
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724481
reagan was a moron, did anyone actually think his "trickle down" theory would work?
Better question; Does anyone believe Reagan's tax cuts didn't fuel the tremendous economic growth we've had the last 25 years?
 

el guapo

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724482
http://thedrew102.blogspot.com/2008/...dent-ever.html
read this

You offer a blog as fact ? At that you offer a blog filled with ignorance and uneducated filler material .
You do understand that there have been terrorist style groups since the late 50's early 60's . You think this guys anti Regan opinions are legit? The US. actions to supply the afgani freedom fighters was not the first time western civilization played a key roll in the shaping of eastern culture .
You can't place blame on an american president for the lack of economic growth in a geographic area that has been populated for thousands of years longer than the good old U.S.A .
Let alone the fact that the middle east is one of the richest area's in the world .
You pick and choose your facts very poorly . Regan should have made sure the afganis had a solid infastructure after we helped them throw out the russians but we should haul butt out of iraq as fast as possible ?
You state we are in a recesion yet by deffinition we are not . Yet you follow some blind rats looking for cheese and claim by your standards we are in a recesion . Who bumpped you up the ladder nad gave you the athority to rewrite the rules of economics ?
Your blog her refers to standards of living . How many households in modern america have computers , internet access, big screen TV's , Cable with hundreds of channles ,Multiple video games systems (Xbox 360,PS3, Wii) How many starbucks are in your neighborhood , How many fast food establishments , How many food items in your refridgerator are prepackaged and processed ?
Standard of living . When was the last time you milked a cow/goat to get your milk, gone out to the coupe to get eggs of get chicken ? When was the last time you ate a diet of only goverment suplied comodities such as Rice and peanut butter ? When was the last time you went with out heat in the winter or AC in the summer ?
I challange you to find me countries with higher standards of living .
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/2724683
You offer a blog as fact ? At that you offer a blog filled with ignorance and uneducated filler material .
You do understand that there have been terrorist style groups since the late 50's early 60's . You think this guys anti Regan opinions are legit? The US. actions to supply the afgani freedom fighters was not the first time western civilization played a key roll in the shaping of eastern culture .
You can't place blame on an american president for the lack of economic growth in a geographic area that has been populated for thousands of years longer than the good old U.S.A .
Let alone the fact that the middle east is one of the richest area's in the world .
You pick and choose your facts very poorly . Regan should have made sure the afganis had a solid infastructure after we helped them throw out the russians but we should haul butt out of iraq as fast as possible ?
You state we are in a recesion yet by deffinition we are not . Yet you follow some blind rats looking for cheese and claim by your standards we are in a recesion . Who bumpped you up the ladder nad gave you the athority to rewrite the rules of economics ?
Your blog her refers to standards of living . How many households in modern america have computers , internet access, big screen TV's , Cable with hundreds of channles ,Multiple video games systems (Xbox 360,PS3, Wii) How many starbucks are in your neighborhood , How many fast food establishments , How many food items in your refridgerator are prepackaged and processed ?
Standard of living . When was the last time you milked a cow/goat to get your milk, gone out to the coupe to get eggs of get chicken ? When was the last time you ate a diet of only goverment suplied comodities such as Rice and peanut butter ? When was the last time you went with out heat in the winter or AC in the summer ?
I challange you to find me countries with higher standards of living .
There are a couple, Ireland, (the are a text book example on how Reagan's economic policies work) Dubai.
I've lived in third world countries. Phil Gram was right, the whiney people saying how hard our life need their wet nurses. We have it EASY.
 

dogfaceman

Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2724672
Better question; Does anyone believe Reagan's tax cuts didn't fuel the tremendous economic growth we've had the last 25 years?
he cut taxes for the rich, just like bush did, mainly to help out themselves and there rich buddies, one of the main reasons we have a large debt. and I love how bush says that The Russian Federation cant invade Georgia, while he invaded Baghdad, what a hypocrite, and The Russian Federation is going to overthrow their leader and most likely reclaim Georgia. And bush cant do anything about it.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by dogfaceman
http:///forum/post/2724800
he cut taxes for the rich, just like bush did, mainly to help out themselves and there rich buddies, one of the main reasons we have a large debt. and I love how bush says that The Russian Federation cant invade Georgia, while he invaded Baghdad, what a hypocrite, and The Russian Federation is going to overthrow their leader and most likely reclaim Georgia. And bush cant do anything about it.
I'm not sure if I buy that especially considering the bottom fifty percent of wage earners pay three percent of taxes.
But would you please kindly explain to me how this comes even close to equating to invading iraq
 

dogfaceman

Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2724822
I'm not sure if I buy that especially considering the bottom fifty percent of wage earners pay three percent of taxes.
But would you please kindly explain to me how this comes even close to equating to invading iraq

if you buy what? that they cut taxes for the rich? thats the "trickle down theory", anyways explain to me this why did we invade iraq?
 
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