littledynam1te
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Can I get some input on salt mix vs natural ik they both have pros and cons
Salt mix vs natural sea water
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littledynam1te
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Cool thnks anything else
geridoc
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I recall seeing an article a few years that examined the quality of natural seawater, and it was not good. It seems that the collection boats do go far enough off shore to avoid the usual inshore pollutants, but the collect the water from near the boat, and there is oil and gas residue in the water. I would go mix.
littledynam1te
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Document know anything about the kind they sale at *****
snakeblitz33
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I would also go with synthetic sea salt.
Instant ocean is pretty good - and good for a fish only tank. Also, if you have your own RO water with zero TDS and mix your own nitrate and phosphate free synthetic sea salt mix in the pure water, you know you are getting the absolute best of both worlds.
Going into a little more detail, ... some people actually mix synthetic sea salts with different properties to get the desired ratio of major and minor elements in the water. Also, there are some synthetic sea salt mixes that are ORGANIC... like that made by Saltwater Correct. He makes his own salt - and packs calcium separately, therefore there are no need for "anti-caking" preservatives/agents in the salt mix.
I'll be putting in an order for Saltwater Correct salt mix here in a few weeks because I like the fact that it doesn't have any anti-caking agents in the mix which might have adverse effects on the corals that I want to keep.
Instant ocean is pretty good - and good for a fish only tank. Also, if you have your own RO water with zero TDS and mix your own nitrate and phosphate free synthetic sea salt mix in the pure water, you know you are getting the absolute best of both worlds.
Going into a little more detail, ... some people actually mix synthetic sea salts with different properties to get the desired ratio of major and minor elements in the water. Also, there are some synthetic sea salt mixes that are ORGANIC... like that made by Saltwater Correct. He makes his own salt - and packs calcium separately, therefore there are no need for "anti-caking" preservatives/agents in the salt mix.
I'll be putting in an order for Saltwater Correct salt mix here in a few weeks because I like the fact that it doesn't have any anti-caking agents in the mix which might have adverse effects on the corals that I want to keep.
littledynam1te
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If anyone cares at my LFS I found LEDs for $236 apiece
acrylic51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494282
If anyone cares at my LFS I found LEDs for $236 apiece
Ok.....Give us some specs on the fixtures......
Originally Posted by LITTLEDYNAM1TE http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494282
If anyone cares at my LFS I found LEDs for $236 apiece
Ok.....Give us some specs on the fixtures......
acrylic51
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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494275
I would also go with synthetic sea salt.
Instant ocean is pretty good - and good for a fish only tank. Also, if you have your own RO water with zero TDS and mix your own nitrate and phosphate free synthetic sea salt mix in the pure water, you know you are getting the absolute best of both worlds.
Going into a little more detail, ... some people actually mix synthetic sea salts with different properties to get the desired ratio of major and minor elements in the water. Also, there are some synthetic sea salt mixes that are ORGANIC... like that made by Saltwater Correct. He makes his own salt - and packs calcium separately, therefore there are no need for "anti-caking" preservatives/agents in the salt mix.
I'll be putting in an order for Saltwater Correct salt mix here in a few weeks because I like the fact that it doesn't have any anti-caking agents in the mix which might have adverse effects on the corals that I want to keep.
Seth how is Gary's salt working out for you......
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494275
I would also go with synthetic sea salt.
Instant ocean is pretty good - and good for a fish only tank. Also, if you have your own RO water with zero TDS and mix your own nitrate and phosphate free synthetic sea salt mix in the pure water, you know you are getting the absolute best of both worlds.
Going into a little more detail, ... some people actually mix synthetic sea salts with different properties to get the desired ratio of major and minor elements in the water. Also, there are some synthetic sea salt mixes that are ORGANIC... like that made by Saltwater Correct. He makes his own salt - and packs calcium separately, therefore there are no need for "anti-caking" preservatives/agents in the salt mix.
I'll be putting in an order for Saltwater Correct salt mix here in a few weeks because I like the fact that it doesn't have any anti-caking agents in the mix which might have adverse effects on the corals that I want to keep.
Seth how is Gary's salt working out for you......
snakeblitz33
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494821
Seth how is Gary's salt working out for you......
I will definitely be ordering more. I noticed that my fish were even more active for a while after the water change. I just have to get some money together for another purchase.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/393083/salt-mix-vs-natural-sea-water#post_3494821
Seth how is Gary's salt working out for you......
I will definitely be ordering more. I noticed that my fish were even more active for a while after the water change. I just have to get some money together for another purchase.
snakeblitz33
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Also, I have noticed that his salt doesn't leave behind any residue like other salts do, and it mixes much faster.
littledynam1te
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What kind is it again?
snakeblitz33
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Saltwater correct
littledynam1te
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I mean wha brand and where could I find it how much would it cost
snakeblitz33
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The "brand" name is saltwater correct. If you do a simple search on your favorite search engine, you can easily find that information.
littledynam1te
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Noooo I meant what is the brand name of that salt mix u where using ik it's a mix and ik it's saltwater but what I'm asking is what is the brand name of the saltwater mix you are using for ur saltwater tank
littledynam1te
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Hahah sorry I get it now I feel stupid so ya hanks hahahah
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siptang
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Too late to jump in this I assume but I will speak up here for NSW.
Before I do that, let me put a disclaimer here.
You go with whatever works for you and is convenient/ cost effective to you.
With that said, depending on where you are, NSW is cheaper then FSW.
Pet stores sell here for 49c per gallon compared to 59c per gallon of IO.
If you make your own fsw with io it will be cheaper but if you were to go with high cost name brand then it will be more expensive then nsw. For example, one that Seth is ordering is pretty expensive and if you do gallon by gallon comparison from that it will be equal to or cheaper. (you mentioned ***** so I'm assuming that you are buying your water. )
We the hobbyists are trying to simulate ocean and stimulate our livestock to think that they are in the ocean. If you have an option to get mother nature why not go with it?
Yes, you will get less mag/cal rate then synthetic but fsw also contain preservatives that are at times not so great for our corals and I know for sure you will definitely have to dose for IO.
By the way, corals which all come from oceans live well under those condition, key here is that you replenish whatever corals eat up and do it consistently.
Consistency in this hobby is the key. (salinity, temperature, ph, alk, cal, mag, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia, p04 etc etc)
I use NSW and dose 2 part doser from seachem and dose a cap full of each everyday and honestly my cal is never below 460 and parameters are all in check.
It also comes down to whether or not that company is reputable company and that they are consistent.
If you collect near shores then you are out of luck. We have piers that stretches over couple hundred fts and have inlet pump and it's no boat zone and that place is pretty much safe.
Person that I go with, always get it from from high incoming tide and only if when the weather is fine and run uv on it for 24-48 hours to kill any free floating particles.
I have used it for 6 months or so with great success and my corals and my fish are both thriving.
I know numerous amount of people who have beautiful sps tanks using nsw. ( calcium is dosed ofcourse)
I have tested on numerous occasions and I have consistently received the same numbers and once again consistency in this hobby is the key.
Why do I keep mentioning consistency? Because FSW is man made and no man made is 100% consistent and there are many horror stories of bad batch of FSW and NSW is close to none.
But once again this is only my opinion so please listen to it with grain of salt and make your opinions and decisions based up on your research and go with whatever is convinient for you.
I use IO reefcrystal and Red Sea Coral plus, time to time and it works great too just wanted you and potential other readers better information on NSW.
BTW, go check out FloridaJoe and my tank and tell me that nsw doesn't work.
Before I do that, let me put a disclaimer here.
You go with whatever works for you and is convenient/ cost effective to you.
With that said, depending on where you are, NSW is cheaper then FSW.
Pet stores sell here for 49c per gallon compared to 59c per gallon of IO.
If you make your own fsw with io it will be cheaper but if you were to go with high cost name brand then it will be more expensive then nsw. For example, one that Seth is ordering is pretty expensive and if you do gallon by gallon comparison from that it will be equal to or cheaper. (you mentioned ***** so I'm assuming that you are buying your water. )
We the hobbyists are trying to simulate ocean and stimulate our livestock to think that they are in the ocean. If you have an option to get mother nature why not go with it?
Yes, you will get less mag/cal rate then synthetic but fsw also contain preservatives that are at times not so great for our corals and I know for sure you will definitely have to dose for IO.
By the way, corals which all come from oceans live well under those condition, key here is that you replenish whatever corals eat up and do it consistently.
Consistency in this hobby is the key. (salinity, temperature, ph, alk, cal, mag, nitrate, nitrite, ammonia, p04 etc etc)
I use NSW and dose 2 part doser from seachem and dose a cap full of each everyday and honestly my cal is never below 460 and parameters are all in check.
It also comes down to whether or not that company is reputable company and that they are consistent.
If you collect near shores then you are out of luck. We have piers that stretches over couple hundred fts and have inlet pump and it's no boat zone and that place is pretty much safe.
Person that I go with, always get it from from high incoming tide and only if when the weather is fine and run uv on it for 24-48 hours to kill any free floating particles.
I have used it for 6 months or so with great success and my corals and my fish are both thriving.
I know numerous amount of people who have beautiful sps tanks using nsw. ( calcium is dosed ofcourse)
I have tested on numerous occasions and I have consistently received the same numbers and once again consistency in this hobby is the key.
Why do I keep mentioning consistency? Because FSW is man made and no man made is 100% consistent and there are many horror stories of bad batch of FSW and NSW is close to none.
But once again this is only my opinion so please listen to it with grain of salt and make your opinions and decisions based up on your research and go with whatever is convinient for you.
I use IO reefcrystal and Red Sea Coral plus, time to time and it works great too just wanted you and potential other readers better information on NSW.
BTW, go check out FloridaJoe and my tank and tell me that nsw doesn't work.
littledynam1te
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What kind of nsw do u use and where can I get it
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siptang
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Nsw doesn't have a brand but I use tge water from the gulf of mexico and its impractical to use what I use because you are so far away. Delivery charge itself would be insane.
Where are you located?
Where are you located?