Sea Horses

monsinour

Active Member
Can someone point me in the direction of a good article about the care of these critters. The missus wants them really badly and I think I could do it in a small tank in our bedroom. If I base it on what I see, I need some kind of kelp or something for them in the tank, a few crabs as cleaners, and obviously other stuff. I would like some assistance in the direction of where to start the research. If this happens, it would be around xmas time as a present for the missus.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Did you see the seahorse and pipefish section??? At the top there are 3 very good articles....start with them
they are a very TANK specific species.....
 

scott t

Active Member
You always beat me to the punch Meowzer was just coming on this thread to say that lol.. You are just to fast at posting lol..
 

scott t

Active Member
LOl you must have lighting fingers then lol... You always give good advice..
I have thought about doing a seahorse tank but I dunno I think I will wait until I get some experience in the hobby first then move on to that..
 

meowzer

Moderator
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Originally Posted by Scott T http:///forum/thread/381475/sea-horses#post_3323208
LOl you must have lighting fingers then lol... You always give good advice..
I have thought about doing a seahorse tank but I dunno I think I will wait until I get some experience in the hobby first then move on to that..
I tried :( I guess you weren't here then....I had 2....Bigun and Skinny.....Bigun got sick and I had to put him in a HT...well let's just say after an EXTREMELY stressful 30 days...I lost him....and shortly after I woke up to find Skinny dead
The only thing I was greatful for was that Skinny went quick.... I could not have handled another sick horse.....there is a very lenghty thread here (in the Seahorse section of course)...it's title is bigun has a boo boo
it will make you cry

I found it
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/359096/bigun-has-a-booboo
 

scott t

Active Member
Aww Meowzer Im sorry.. Yeah have read that they are very sensitive and hard to take care of and I dont think at this point I have enough experience to take on the task of taking care of seahorses right now...
 

monsinour

Active Member
If the water has to be 100% stable with all zeros, or close to zero nitrate, I dont mind having a tank setup with nothing in it but inverts to keep it clean while I wait for the nitrate to zero. Moving over to the different forum.
 
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smartorl

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What about dwarfs? I prefer them to the larger species personally. They breed readily and aside from the bbs, which is a breeze once you get it down, are alot more trouble free in my opinion.
 
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saxman

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IMHO, hatching BBS is a real PITA, and zots are kinda lazy and small. There is also the issue with hydroids if you don't use a sterile type system, and even then, you can still have outbreaks due to the cysts. I wouldn't really recommend them for a novice keeper personally.
 
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smartorl

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I respect your opinion totally, but disagree. They are hardy little buggers, more so in my opinion than their larger counterparts. While they may be small, having a 10 gallon with 20 - 25 adults, someone is usually doing something. Plus, you learn to recognize most of them for their markings and some really have stand out personalities. At feeding times, they are usually active little hunters snicking their brine. Because they breed so easily, there is almost always a mating dance going on and watching the births never gets old.
With all the losses happening in the big horses, it's refreshing to have these guys live out their entire life cycles in your tanks (granted they are much shorter). They breed very readily and the young hitch and feed on bbs from birth and have high survival rates.
After having both over the years, I find the dwarfs to be easier overall.
Hatching the brine can seem intimidating but with a setup costing next to nothing and a dedicated small space, it's a piece of cake. I hatch two batches a day right now. My excess goes to my corals or I can trade it at my lfs. My son loves "sea monkey" duty.
Like anything else, you have to be aware of your tank. Aiptasia must be diligently killed because they will kill the ponies.
I always start off a sterile system for these guys. I do daily top offs, run a skimmer, and change a small amount of water, usually .5 gallon to a gallon every two days. I could stretch the water changes much further, I just like to keep my system ahead of the game and find they thrive in the cleaner waters.
 
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saxman

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I totally get it, and they're OK as long as you have the time to keep them (I happen to hate hatching Artemia, and the daily upkeep, which is why we no longer rear fry). There's also the benefit of being able to raise the fry in the same tank as the adults. Another of my reasons is that I dislike sterile setups...I prefer the LR/live macro/maybe a couple of corals look as opposed to the fake hitches and whatnot.
Still, I think for a novice keeper, zots aren't the easiest SH to keep.
 

monsinour

Active Member
Interesting information. THank you for the input. I have not decided one way or another and then again, I have to make sure the wife still wants them.
 
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saxman

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This is a huge consideration, because, to be quite honest, keeping SH is something you have to WANT to do.
The MUST be fed daily, no ifs, ands, or buts. this means that if you go on vacation, you'll need a trained person to come in and feed them. You can fudge it a day a week or so, but a SH's digestive system can shut down irreversibly in as little as 4 days. The reason for this is SH don't have a true stomach, and as such, can't hold food for digestion, so in the wild, they pretty much hunt all day. This is one reason I preach keeping live macro in a SH DT...it harbors pods, and the SH will spend lots of time hunting between meals.
You also need to be able to keep the tank < 74*F for tropical species, as at 75*F, the bacterial count in a captive system goes WAY up. This is likely the biggest mistake I see peeps make...keeping them too warm.
This is something you definitely need to go into with your eyes open. SH aren't that hard to keep IF you meet their special needs.
JM .02
 
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smartorl

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I totally agree. The people that I see fail are those that lose interest.
I have OCD and so the "routine" is right up my alley, lol.
I don't mind the routine but know people who come to resent them because of the feeling of being "tied down". I do work from home and while we take day trips, my schedule hasn't allowed me a "vacation" in a few years. If I had to go away, it would be difficult to find someone willing to provide them the level of care I do.
As stated above skipping days and the level of care just doesn't work with SH's in general but more so the little guys that do prefer live food.
 

levinjac

Active Member
i wish i could get SHs too ive been doing much reasearch and think i can do it but i just dont think i could devote my time into keeping one of these critters its really not the fact that there ok to keep but that you can keep them for long term and devote alot oh time into them im in school but i have a socil life LOL and im not home all the time live in Arizona and no one knows how to care for fish in my neighbor hood so if i go on vacation or miss a day im skrewed
 

monsinour

Active Member
I talked it over with the missus and she doesnt want sea horses "that badly" so I will not be setting a tank for sh at this time. Maybe when we are retired and have nothing better to do with our time.
 
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