Should people with foreclosed homes be able to vote?

1journeyman

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2765315
... the measure that changed the date for the primary was done by republicans. .....
Where do you get your news from? The Dems choice the confrontation and refused to deal with the issue that left Florida out.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2765246
why you are sitting their arguing that the republicans are out to keep people from voting. I'm simply illustrating that they aren't the ones disenfranchising people. But if you want to talk disenfranchisement. Lets talk the dem primaries with Michigan and Florida.
but you can't take circumstances that happened 30-40-100 years ago... and say they apply today...the parties are not the same parties as they were decades ago.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2766884
Where do you get your news from? The Dems choice the confrontation and refused to deal with the issue that left Florida out.
http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2007/05/21/cq_2766.html
you can use that link or google Florida House Bill 537 and find whatever source is more favorable to you...
There was an issue to the bill at its inception back in 2007...way before the primaires... They knew the possible consquences..
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2766866
the Florida legislature passed by House Bill 537[2] which moved the date of the state's Republican and Democratic primaries to January 29th, a week before the earliest permitted date[3] of both parties. The Democratic Party of Florida tried to amend the legislation and make the date February 5th. The Republican-controlled legislature refused.[4]
And then nearly every member of the Florida democrat party voted for the measure. he Florida Senate voted 37-2 in favor of the measure on April 27, 2007, and the House voted 118-0
The GOP had rules against it as well. Only half their delegates were counted. The Democrap leadership must not be very competent if they could only get two members of the legislature to vote with them,
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2766905
And then nearly every member of the Florida democrat party voted for the measure. he Florida Senate voted 37-2 in favor of the measure on April 27, 2007, and the House voted 118-0
The GOP had rules against it as well. Only half their delegates were counted. The Democrap leadership must not be very competent if they could only get two members of the legislature to vote with them,

says they tried to amend it but it would not go through.... so point is rules were broken.. has to be some consquence...
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2766910
says they tried to amend it but it would not go through.... so point is rules were broken.. has to be some consquence...
And your point is? If the Democrats all voted for it they have no reason to cry over it but what do they do? LIE just like they do in every election. If they really opposed the change why on earth did they turn around and vote for it? They felt just like the Republicans that insisting on allowing some little podunk state set the ton for the primary elections is wrong and they were right.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2766888
but you can't take circumstances that happened 30-40-100 years ago... and say they apply today...the parties are not the same parties as they were decades ago.
Why not? You still think we should do stuff about slavery that happened even farther back in history.
 
fats71

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2765170
huh?
this is a idiotic statement based on stereotypes.... that has nothing to do with food stamps or medicaid, which people of all parties collect...
People of the GOP... talk values... patriotism... "country first" .. etc
this is the most un-patriotic... un-american behavior a party can participate in ... we are the example of the democratic process and these situations of disenfrachisment need to be exposed.

I do not know one democrat in my area whom is not on food stamps so for me it is the "NORM" I however do not know of one republican in my area who would leach off the country.
Oh ya the dems i know are the ones I have to constantly call the police on for beating their wife in the front yeard whilst I am riding past their house on the way into town. The another hangs out at the local coffee shop I frequent for breakfast and he is always walking up rubbing his head asking and I quote " You got a dollar my hairs all nappy" and walks off...
This is not a stereotype this is fact. Their is not one democrat on post that I am aware of. You should hear the people at this army post. It is a republican heaven of goodness and purity. They all work their husbands all work they all pay their bills and none of them beg for hand outs.
 
crimzy

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Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2767379
I do not know one democrat in my area whom is not on food stamps so for me it is the "NORM" I however do not know of one republican in my area who would leach off the country.
Oh ya the dems i know are the ones I have to constantly call the police on for beating their wife in the front yeard whilst I am riding past their house on the way into town. The another hangs out at the local coffee shop I frequent for breakfast and he is always walking up rubbing his head asking and I quote " You got a dollar my hairs all nappy" and walks off...
This is not a stereotype this is fact. Their is not one democrat on post that I am aware of. You should hear the people at this army post. It is a republican heaven of goodness and purity. They all work their husbands all work they all pay their bills and none of them beg for hand outs.
Possibly the most ignorant, bigoted post I've ever read. I dont even think the ultra conservatives will support this nonsense statement. BTW, are you talking about democrats, or blacks and jews? Good work.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2767379
I do not know one democrat in my area whom is not on food stamps so for me it is the "NORM" I however do not know of one republican in my area who would leach off the country.
Oh ya the dems i know are the ones I have to constantly call the police on for beating their wife in the front yeard whilst I am riding past their house on the way into town. The another hangs out at the local coffee shop I frequent for breakfast and he is always walking up rubbing his head asking and I quote " You got a dollar my hairs all nappy" and walks off...
This is not a stereotype this is fact. Their is not one democrat on post that I am aware of. You should hear the people at this army post. It is a republican heaven of goodness and purity. They all work their husbands all work they all pay their bills and none of them beg for hand outs.
it would seem to me that your problem is not republicans and democrats but centered in something else... you also can't equate the issues of an army "post" with an entire nation or party. People of political parties or whom hold their views come from all walks of life and economic statuses... Its funny the two individuals you speak of.. represent an entire party or group of people... My question to you is how do you know they are democrats and take interest in politics... what other characteristics lead you to have this opinion?
 
rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2766983
Why not? You still think we should do stuff about slavery that happened even farther back in history.

well race is still a problem... and slavery is part of our history that still has an effect on society today...
My point though is that you can't say the politics of that day are the same as they are today. There is no doubt that the dynamics of racism has changed and are less prevelant and institutional as it once was... but what I'm saying is that we have to look at historical changes within the parties... and that change took place during the 1960's-70's.
and if we look at history the first black candidate for president was a republican... but what has happened is that the republican party has no agenda for urban or poor communities... which includes education, healthcare, among other things. In my opinion they don't have a holistic view of america.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2767417
and if we look at history the first black candidate for president was a republican... but what has happened is that the republican party has no agenda for urban or poor communities... which includes education, healthcare, among other things. In my opinion they don't have a holistic view of america.
I disagree, by opposing the very thing that has helped destroy black america, Welfare, they have done more for "blacks" than anything a democrat has done.
 
darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Fats71
http:///forum/post/2767379
I do not know one democrat in my area whom is not on food stamps so for me it is the "NORM" I however do not know of one republican in my area who would leach off the country.
Oh ya the dems i know are the ones I have to constantly call the police on for beating their wife in the front yeard whilst I am riding past their house on the way into town. The another hangs out at the local coffee shop I frequent for breakfast and he is always walking up rubbing his head asking and I quote " You got a dollar my hairs all nappy" and walks off...
This is not a stereotype this is fact. Their is not one democrat on post that I am aware of. You should hear the people at this army post. It is a republican heaven of goodness and purity. They all work their husbands all work they all pay their bills and none of them beg for hand outs.
Thanks for setting us back 30 years............got a pillow case with the eyes cut out also?
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2767423
I disagree, by opposing the very thing that has helped destroy black america, Welfare, they have done more for "blacks" than anything a democrat has done.
I disagree... though I will say in some respects it may have had a negative effect but not in all cases... I believe in the reform of the program... but the most sigificant problem IMO is drugs ... there have been serveral urban communities known for their booming economy until drugs took over... but I'd have to say the two leading causes are drugs and public eduation system.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2767480
what about race prevents people for caring for their family or succeeding in life?
race in itself doesn't.. but factors attributed to societies views of race do.. As do economics and education... but what I don't like is lumping everyone into one category based on race... its like the actions of a portion of a population dictate perception of the whole.
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
http:///forum/post/2767533
race in itself doesn't.. but factors attributed to societies views of race do..

Examples? Scenario? explanation? anything to help me understand how race affects their ability provide for their family and succeed in life.
 
rylan1

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/2767671
Examples? Scenario? explanation? anything to help me understand how race affects their ability provide for their family and succeed in life.
Race does not prevent you from doing anything... but it is an additional hurdle in many situations... in regards to black people... it can be the same for other ethnicities depending on the field.
For example if I am white and want to be a hip hop producer... I have to be better than your average black guy...
If I want to be a wall st lawyer... I have to be better than your average white guy or bring something unique to the table that is diffrent from others applying.
There are current studies that suggest the following
For example... if you have 2 people applying for a job qualifications on resume are:
person 1
4 year bachelor degree at state college
internship
vs
4 year bachelor at state college
1 year experience
only difference is one's name is
Mushin Muhammad or Shanica Brown
vs
Adam Jones or Kimberly Smith
It is documented in studies or experiements that based on perception the bottom two are most often requested to interview.
So what would your conclusion of this study be?
 
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