Sick Blonde Naso
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randyrags
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OMG! I am devastated... My wife just does not understand. To her it is all about how much money I have lost. Not anything about our beloved pets. I have not slept for two nights. I can't eat and I can barely function at work. I lost the last one this morning, and the Blonde died in quarantine last night. I did try carbon last night. My next question is where do I go from here?? If it was disease or contamination what do I need to do to start over? I am guessing go at least 6 weeks with no fish? do I do 100% water change?? Thanks for being there...
There are not many diseases that will wipe out so quickly. Please give us details of exactly what you saw on the fish, and their behavior. I know we've seen some of that already with the vids. Did you notice any kind of bumps or dots on the fish? Anything that looked abnormal on their body surface? Were all the gills red, swollen? Did you add new fish recently? Add anything new recently such as rock, inverts? And, if so, where did the new addition come from and what type of tank?
Right now, just keep your tank going as usual. We will still need to feed your tank a bit if you have live rock? What else is in your tank, such as inverts, corals? If you have other animals, are they alive and ok? If so, then we can confirm that it wasn't a toxic contamination.
Randy, so sorry for this great loss. All the fish. But move forward from this now while we help you figure out the best course.
Right now, just keep your tank going as usual. We will still need to feed your tank a bit if you have live rock? What else is in your tank, such as inverts, corals? If you have other animals, are they alive and ok? If so, then we can confirm that it wasn't a toxic contamination.
Randy, so sorry for this great loss. All the fish. But move forward from this now while we help you figure out the best course.
mandy111
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I so feel and hear your pain. I am so very sorry. This is devastating.
Agree with @beth completely, you must look at what was added in the last month or so, even down to a rock or coral.
Check your RODI water, or you conditioner if using tap water.
take some water the the LFS and have them test for all the parameters, just in case a test kit of yours might be off.
Something changed recently for this to happen.
Velvet is about the only thing that can kill this quickly.
Lets get this sorted for you. I am truly sorry.
Agree with @beth completely, you must look at what was added in the last month or so, even down to a rock or coral.
Check your RODI water, or you conditioner if using tap water.
take some water the the LFS and have them test for all the parameters, just in case a test kit of yours might be off.
Something changed recently for this to happen.
Velvet is about the only thing that can kill this quickly.
Lets get this sorted for you. I am truly sorry.
randyrags
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Yes to live rock... otherwise a couple turbo snails not sure if they are still alive. The last addition was a new file fish added early January. Quarantined 2 weeks and was doing great. Dog Face Puffer was sick for awhile. He stopped eating around Nov and was very lethargic. He did this once before but started eating after 6 weeks. I figured he must have been eating something as that was such a long time. it was about two weeks ago that puffer started scratching on the rocks and a couple days later that the Blonde Naso started scratching also. I noticed the Naso had black spots(puffer may have had them but he has black spots for coloring) so I started treating both with formalin dips. Puffer looked like he had white hair very similar to the Clown with brook in your pics. Puffer started deteriorating after the first dip as his fins started looking red and bloody and disappearing almost melting away he also had a white coating over his eyes so I was pretty sure he was blind by this point. he died that evening. The only other behavior was both the blonde and clown darted slow and then fast around the tank. The clown seemed more erratic shaking like he was trying to get something off of him. The only other thing I can think of was after I was done with the first dips the tank needed more water. So I grabbed a bucket of rodi water that was sitting in the bucket in my utility tub in the laundry room. I did not have the pump or anything to move the water for a couple days and it could have even been as long as a week. I did add salt the night before and added a pump but now as I look back I think that could have been my fatal move. Could that be???
mandy111
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I doubt it was the water. If salt. & pump added night before shouldn't be an issue. Correct me if I am wrong but don't puffers release toxins into tank if stressed or dying ? I have heard they can wipe out a whole tank. Maybe research that ? If this happened it could explain the black ich too. As the other fish became poisoned they stressed which allowed ich to attach. The last pic you put up of the gobby certainly looked like something had burned him. I am highly suspicious that this puffer is the culprit ???
The water could have gotten contaminated (was it covered?). If the wipeout occurred immediately after, then yes. See if the snails show up because their death may lean toward some sort of non-disease related problem such as contamination. Also, your live rock should be very much alive if all is all is well in your tank. The creatures living in live rock, such as worms, sponge, bristleworms, spaghetti worms, brittle stars, etc. should have exp die-off as well if your problem is a system contamination. In the meantime, do water changes. Never leave change water wo a pump, and always cover the change water container. Salt should be mixed no less than 2 days before using, with pH and salinity tested to sure that parameters match your aquaria.
Leave your tank fallow for 2 mos without fish. In the meantime, check out your tank routinely to be sure that other creatures are doing well in the aquaria. You can get some inverts in the interim but nothing with hardshells. Anything you wish to add that is hard surfaced, QT first for 2 weeks.
When you do start getting new fish, be sure to QT no less than 3 weeks. More if any problem arises.
Were the black spots on the NASO bumpy like salt, or just a discoloration of the skin?
Leave your tank fallow for 2 mos without fish. In the meantime, check out your tank routinely to be sure that other creatures are doing well in the aquaria. You can get some inverts in the interim but nothing with hardshells. Anything you wish to add that is hard surfaced, QT first for 2 weeks.
When you do start getting new fish, be sure to QT no less than 3 weeks. More if any problem arises.
Were the black spots on the NASO bumpy like salt, or just a discoloration of the skin?
randyrags
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Weirdly the snails and crabs are still alive. I never heard of velvet but the pictures I googled sure look like it... Here is pic of naso before he died. If it was velvet is there anything different that I need to do or would 8 weeks fish free cure that? Black spots were not bumpy on puffer.
I was thinking velvet and the symptoms were all there, particularly the quick kill off of everything in your tank. However, I didn't actually see velvet (which in saltwater is known as Oodinium). Rapid breathing, scratching, red swollen gill areas--are symptoms. However, where did it come from?? You haven't added fish recently, and the only source is via infected fish (or perhaps items that were exposed to infected fish such as water, equipment, hard-shelled animals, rocks). The dark spots as well as the blanching I see in that picture are a result of stress.
Two months wo any fish, then QT all incoming fish for at least 3 weeks.
Two months wo any fish, then QT all incoming fish for at least 3 weeks.