Sick or Stressed?

bloke

Member
I've noticed one of my clowns, the biggest of them, has began to reside himself in the back corner of the tank where his breathing has turned very rapid and he has lost his appetite. His color has started to darken slightly on top too.
Is this the onset of some sort of infection or merely stress? I have attached a link to a YouTube video so that you could see what I am referring to.
Thanks for your time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV4HPPH3so8
What's wrong with him?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
How long have you had this fish?
It looks stressed to me.
You have it in there with a larger maroon clownfish. The maroon is probably harrassing it pretty badly.
 

bloke

Member
That's not a maroon. That a juvi B/W Ocellaris.
I did put a couple more lbs of LR in there today and was moving things about a bit. Mostly on the left side of the tank, but he only started behaving this way after I moved around the rock.
You think he's just stressed? Why are the others behaving as normal?
 

bocfuss

Member
I'm sorry mate, but he doesn't look so hot. Water is O.K? Haven't added anything lately? I have no idea what it could be but he doesn't look good. I had a clown do that and it didn't make it. Hopefully someone will have some good news for you.
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Oh, I apologize.
Did you test your levels after you did all of this to your tank? Maybe you spiked the ammonia/nitrite/nitrates?
 

bloke

Member
Water is good. pH: 8.2, Amonia 0.00, Nitrites 0.00, Nitrates 10
Do you suggest I leave him in or take him out?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
There is really nothing you could do to him at this point so I would just leave him in the tank. Somehow, he got stressed by something.
How long have you had this fish?
 

bloke

Member
Not long. I just noticed that on his left side and towards his face and dorsal fins, he has about 5-6 tiny whitish spots. Ick?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Could be... Take a look at the disease pictures in the disease forum and look at ich and brooklynella.
How long is not long? A few days? A week? A month?
 

bloke

Member
OK - dots do look like Ick, but not nearly as severe as those picks. Just a few dots.
Should I take him out and put him in another tank? I have another cycled tank with NO fish in it right now.
I don't want to put others in jeopardy
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
The others are already exposed to ich. If you are going to treat the one, you might as well treat all of them or else you will not be getting rid of the ich at all. All fish in the tank need to be treated in hyposalinity if you have ich in the tank.
 

bloke

Member
DAMNIT!
So I need to research Hyposalinity and work on that.
It wont work to remove him now and see how it goes with the others?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
No. As long as there are fish in the tank, the ich will be in the tank. The display needs to be left fishless or put into hyposalinity with the fish in there. If you decide to hypo the display, all rock, inverts, and coral needs to be taken out.
 

bloke

Member
SO... all fish need to some out. How can Ick spread so damn quickly?
He just started this a few hours ago. The others are already contaminated?
So, all fish come out and go into a tank with no LR or LS and there I slowly lower the salinity or do I use chemicals?
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Originally Posted by Bloke
This sucks! but thanks for your help.
Yep, I agree. This is why a quarantine tank is so neccessary and important in this hobby. It is unfortunate that most people find out the hard way. Don't beat yourself up. You are not the first, and certainly not the last.
Hopefully your fish makes a fast and full recovery.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Yep, I agree. This is why a quarantine tank is so neccessary and important in this hobby. It is unfortunate that most people find out the hard way. Don't beat yourself up. You are not the first, and certainly not the last.
Hopefully your fish makes a fast and full recovery.
I agree and wish you luck as well
 
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