So far so good, 6 tangs, 2 angles, and some friends

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siptang

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Hmm i was wondering how you clean filter socks...
I usually just wash it with water thoroughly until water is no longer brown. I guess you put it in laundry ay?
yea, I can only imagine man... jesus 250 gallons.... whew.... imagine the efforts + $ whew.... do you have your own RO machine or do you get it from LFS?
 

tangs rule

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I've got a 90gpd spectrapure 5 stage w/dual TDS meters. Best $250 I ever spent! Yup I wash the socks in the machine, but in 1 cap of bleach only. BUT there is usually some residual soap from the prior wash (clothes) in the machine so I gotta remember to run the washing machine 1 cycle empty to flush it prior to washing the socks......You sure get to live & learn in this hobby (that's a nice way of saying learning from the f*%# ups)
 
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siptang

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3390111
I've got a 90gpd spectrapure 5 stage w/dual TDS meters. Best $250 I ever spent! Yup I wash the socks in the machine, but in 1 cap of bleach only. BUT there is usually some residual soap from the prior wash (clothes) in the machine so I gotta remember to run the washing machine 1 cycle empty to flush it prior to washing the socks......You sure get to live & learn in this hobby (that's a nice way of saying learning from the f*%# ups)

+1 on that my friend.
Beautiful looking tank! I'm purchasing 1 more sock tomorrow and I guess I will try your way. Bleach sounds about right lol.
Yea, I need to invest on RO machine myself. I guess once things return to normal and when I'm able to hold on to money, I will get one.
 

kylev

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Tanks looking awesome! The achilles looks great, i'm still on the hunt for one. And I guess if I ever want to complain about cleaning my tank I can just think about you
 

tangs rule

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Picture Update - Nothing new added, just some pics. Did a little 65gal water change this morn. Gotta scrub the glass tonight some.
What's good for tangs, good for a butterfly? ? ? Yep - he eats pruple sheet nori too.

The "new" liverock actually is some out of the old 125 reef, that had some aiptasia - it spent 4 weeks outside and is now just dry base. About 1/4 of it is pictured here. Also a red sea fan, large shroom, and short polyp goniopora.

The sprung's stunner has grown 1/4" in the ~2months i've had it.

The LTA - recovering nicely after getting sucked into a 2"dia strainer - TWICE in the same month. Still kinda molesterd looking, but doin great and getting better.

A little coral beauty dwarf angle:

The "show" fish - Blue Girdled angle, just stunning and electric in his color

The baby orange shoulder is growing FAST - and is starting to loose his baby "yellow" colors and is just starting to get some grey, with blue stripes in his fins. He's gonna be pretty soon! (and big!!)
 

mproctor4

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They are all beautiful!! Love the Blue Girdled Angel. LOL--How many people can say the just did a "little 65 gallon water change"?
 

1guydude

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LOL--How many people can say the just did a "little 65 gallon water change"?
LOL i know
+1 now when i do my 5-10gal water changes ill think of u and ur 475gal LOL
Tank looks great man

 

tangs rule

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55-65 is the normal......Geez I screwed up last month and slightly contaminated the thing with some detergent residue - and my skimmers STOPPED making skimate cause the contaminate was some sort of anti-foam agent....I did two 130gal waterchanges in the same week....there went some saltmix......Instant Ocean owes me an orange & white car of some sort. Records show I've bought 18 200gal boxes of reef crystals this year, and I only have 2 unopened sitting in stock
 

1guydude

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LOLOLOLOL u need ur own warehouse or ur own supplier or something lol
ya read that bout ur detergent accident....wat a drag, glad to see u didnt lose any of ur prized possesions though!
 

mproctor4

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Wow--thank goodness your live stock was okay. The tank isn't the most expensive part, it is the maintence that kills you. I bet your electric bill isn't pretty either.
 

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by sweatervest13 http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3393905
I love that Angel too. So beautiful!!!
How much more "bulk" can you buy salt?? Can you buy a pallet? Is there a cost break?
Love the tank as always. Keep the pics coming

I have bought salt by the pallet - 10 boxes at once, but no price break. Now that I'm down to only 2 tanks (475 & 90) the salt use should go down ALOT versus running 6 tanks. . . I love the angle too - the navarchus or blue girdleld angel is my first real angle fish, and the coral beauty is the first time i've had one of those last past qtine and make it into a DT. I've only ever (in 10 years) tried the coral beauty twice, but both times they died in qtine - cause they arrived infested with parasites and never ate..... The tank as a whole is very happy, and there is no aggression between anybody, except for the mix of clown fishes - ocellaris pair & single maroon - but they only "gripe" at each other, no blood letting. Usually each species sticks to their own anemone and "turf" and ignore the other.
The orange shoulder tang is gonna be the alpha fish in a couple years, reaching 12+ in this tank. . . So far, at 3.5" he's very docile, and luckly the species is pretty calm and mild mannered. I bought him as a juvinile to see him morph. Orange shoulders start out yellow (pale) but eventually grow into the 2 tone gray with the bright orange line on them. Their adult coloration is stunning, and I think is the most underatted tang out there.....sadly they do get big, so they need 250+ size tanks
 

sweatervest13

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3394069
I have bought salt by the pallet - 10 boxes at once, but no price break. Now that I'm down to only 2 tanks (475 & 90) the salt use should go down ALOT versus running 6 tanks. . . I love the angle too - the navarchus or blue girdleld angel is my first real angle fish, and the coral beauty is the first time i've had one of those last past qtine and make it into a DT. I've only ever (in 10 years) tried the coral beauty twice, but both times they died in qtine - cause they arrived infested with parasites and never ate..... The tank as a whole is very happy, and there is no aggression between anybody, except for the mix of clown fishes - ocellaris pair & single maroon - but they only "gripe" at each other, no blood letting. Usually each species sticks to their own anemone and "turf" and ignore the other.
The orange shoulder tang is gonna be the alpha fish in a couple years, reaching 12+ in this tank. . . So far, at 3.5" he's very docile, and luckly the species is pretty calm and mild mannered. I bought him as a juvinile to see him morph. Orange shoulders start out yellow (pale) but eventually grow into the 2 tone gray with the bright orange line on them. Their adult coloration is stunning, and I think is the most underatted tang out there.....sadly they do get big, so they need 250+ size tanks
I can't wait to see the orange shoulder tang get bigger and see the change. I was lucky with my coral beauty it was healthy right from the get go. But with the new 125g I am getting going I am going to do things differently then with the 29g I started out on. First things first, everything will go into QT. Better to take it slow and avoid getting anything bad the DT system.
What would be a good tang to get for a 125g (6') tank?? I would love to have two tangs. I love the look of a lot of the tangs but I know that some like the orange shoulder will get huge and too big for a little 125g tank (lol if my wife heard that she would think I was crazy). Any suggestions?
Thanks
Ryan.
 

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by sweatervest13 http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3394236
I can't wait to see the orange shoulder tang get bigger and see the change. I was lucky with my coral beauty it was healthy right from the get go. But with the new 125g I am getting going I am going to do things differently then with the 29g I started out on. First things first, everything will go into QT. Better to take it slow and avoid getting anything bad the DT system.
What would be a good tang to get for a 125g (6') tank?? I would love to have two tangs. I love the look of a lot of the tangs but I know that some like the orange shoulder will get huge and too big for a little 125g tank (lol if my wife heard that she would think I was crazy). Any suggestions?
Thanks
Ryan.
For 2, in a 125, if you plan that to be their home for the next 15+ years and not go above 180 size - I'd say:
Acanthurus japonicus or A. nigricans (the powder brown or whitecheek tang) Both these species are not gonna get bigger than 6-7" in the home tank, they are pretty calm towards other tangs - and they are not bigtime swimmers needing lots of room, like the achilles, which swims CONSTANTLY - even at night. Your really borderline for A. achilles, for the 125 size tank. Even though the achilles only grows to the same size as the other 2, he is a constant
swimmer, and you would have to stack your liverock in the center of the tank, leaving room in the front/back/sides - so the achilles can swim "laps" in the tank- which he will - constantly. My big DT is 8'x3'x3' and my rock is all center placement, so the achilles can have about a 20 foot lap, and he wears it out!! lol
A. pyroferus (chocolate tang) is one of the most underated of the acanthurus line IMO. They start out almost solid bright yellow - but morph with age into a very pretty yellow&brown/blue as adults and are pretty docile. The other most underated Acanthurus is the orange shoulder - but they get pretty big, and I know you already mentioned him.
A. leucosternon (powder blue) is also kinda borderline for a 125, but I kept one in my same size tank for 4 years till he moved into the 475, and it worked. (but he really needed bigger tank - I had planned a 200-300g upgrade earlier in life, but it took longer than planned... If you choose this species - he'll be the 2nd and LAST tang u add (and the last large fish to add too). PB's can be very agressive towards other tangs, and depending on the one you get - he may not ever allow another tang in the tank.
The Kole tang is a good choice too, along with the favorite hippo tang - you could do either. As far as the Zebrasoma species - the sailfin is out cause they get huge, the yellow and scopas tangs are very very agressive - so proceed with caution with either - and the pruple tang might work. I've one, and he's just sweet, very calm and never agressive - but he's an exception. Purple tangs can be kinda mean.
Others to cross off the list are the Naso sp. cause they get huge (Naso lituratus being the smallest - reaching 12" in the home tank - your borderline on tank size). And the clown and sohal tangs casue they get big too and both are about THE most territorial and mean tangs out there.
The trick to pairing tangs varies on your selection. I'd need more info on a specific pair on what would work best. So look at the experience list of the tangs I listed above, and look at the ones i didn't mention and pick a pair and i'll try to get more info on how to pair them up. There's another 12 or so species I didn't list - and some of them may work, so pick some pairs and let's start there.
 

1guydude

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could i keep a kole tang in a 75gal? How big do they get?
idk wat its called but i really enjoy the Black and tan tang! Front part it like tan or light brown and the back half is black....Nor really colorful but kinda out of the norm imo....
Im guessing the rule is no tangs in my 75 huh
 

sweatervest13

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Originally Posted by tangs rule http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3394461
For 2, in a 125, if you plan that to be their home for the next 15+ years and not go above 180 size - I'd say:
Acanthurus japonicus or A. nigricans (the powder brown or whitecheek tang) Both these species are not gonna get bigger than 6-7" in the home tank, they are pretty calm towards other tangs - and they are not bigtime swimmers needing lots of room, like the achilles, which swims CONSTANTLY - even at night. Your really borderline for A. achilles, for the 125 size tank. Even though the achilles only grows to the same size as the other 2, he is a constant
swimmer, and you would have to stack your liverock in the center of the tank, leaving room in the front/back/sides - so the achilles can swim "laps" in the tank- which he will - constantly. My big DT is 8'x3'x3' and my rock is all center placement, so the achilles can have about a 20 foot lap, and he wears it out!! lol
A. pyroferus (chocolate tang) is one of the most underated of the acanthurus line IMO. They start out almost solid bright yellow - but morph with age into a very pretty yellow&brown/blue as adults and are pretty docile. The other most underated Acanthurus is the orange shoulder - but they get pretty big, and I know you already mentioned him.
A. leucosternon (powder blue) is also kinda borderline for a 125, but I kept one in my same size tank for 4 years till he moved into the 475, and it worked. (but he really needed bigger tank - I had planned a 200-300g upgrade earlier in life, but it took longer than planned... If you choose this species - he'll be the 2nd and LAST tang u add (and the last large fish to add too). PB's can be very agressive towards other tangs, and depending on the one you get - he may not ever allow another tang in the tank.
The Kole tang is a good choice too, along with the favorite hippo tang - you could do either. As far as the Zebrasoma species - the sailfin is out cause they get huge, the yellow and scopas tangs are very very agressive - so proceed with caution with either - and the pruple tang might work. I've one, and he's just sweet, very calm and never agressive - but he's an exception. Purple tangs can be kinda mean.
Others to cross off the list are the Naso sp. cause they get huge (Naso lituratus being the smallest - reaching 12" in the home tank - your borderline on tank size). And the clown and sohal tangs casue they get big too and both are about THE most territorial and mean tangs out there.
The trick to pairing tangs varies on your selection. I'd need more info on a specific pair on what would work best. So look at the experience list of the tangs I listed above, and look at the ones i didn't mention and pick a pair and i'll try to get more info on how to pair them up. There's another 12 or so species I didn't list - and some of them may work, so pick some pairs and let's start there.
Thanks Tangs Rule!!! This is a great help. I (my wife. lol) would like to think that I won't be upgrading tank size anytime soon. So, I would plan the fish I put in the tank based on that. I will do a lot more research today and try to come up with a pair and see what you think. Again, super big help!!!
 

tangs rule

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Originally Posted by 1guyDude http:///forum/thread/386050/so-far-so-good-6-tangs-2-angles-and-some-friends/20#post_3394480
could i keep a kole tang in a 75gal? How big do they get?
idk wat its called but i really enjoy the Black and tan tang! Front part it like tan or light brown and the back half is black....Nor really colorful but kinda out of the norm imo....
Im guessing the rule is no tangs in my 75 huh

The 75 is really kinda on the small side for any tang, but the kole or yellow would be an option, but in a couple years, should really be moved into at least a 6'tank (100+)....you better have a seperate tank that you can qtine a tang in, 10gal min, 20 better - tangs are all ich magnets, so please resharch how to qtine one before you jump in... Also - tangs do better if qtined with at least 1 other fish - so if you don't already have a rockskipper blenny - that's an awesome and personable fish to pair with the tang for qtine. I've even bought blue damsles, just so the tang is not alone - tangs are very sociable and need tank mates espically during the stressfull Qtine/treatment period. IME they survive qtine better with at least 1 other mate in the tank.
Show a pic of the tang your talking about
 

tangs rule

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Yes - Zebrasoma scopas, the meanist of the Zebrasoma species. It'd be OK if he's your only tang - which he would be in a 75, BUT if you got a bigger tank in say 5-10 years, and wanted another tang at that time - it may be very difficult, as he'd be alpha fish for sure and any other tang or other large fish would likely not be welcome. Tangs will live 15 years + in the home tank.
 

1guydude

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hmm k well im sure he'd end up being the only tang and most likely the biggest fish in the 75! Any idea how big they get? I think i read only 3.5"! True?
One of the LFSs gets these in kinda regularly. I have seen the kole in though lately, however the kole is always larger and most likely gets larger!
In my 75 i wanna put some of the fish i already have in it like:
cinnamon clown
longnose hawkfish
highcomb blenny
and the scopus tang....
could i add more? I was thinkin like 3 chalk basslets or 5 blue-green chromis!~
Sry just wondering since uve already owned and been past ur 75!
Thxs a tons tang man!
 
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