Starting Hypo today

bpro32

Member
A friend of mine picked up a powder blue tang for his tank for it to only get his a*s kicked by a yellow eye he already had in there. The PBT got stressed and came down with ich. He needed to get rid of the yellow eye so he gave him to me. He isn't showing any signs (white spots, heavy breathing, scraping against anything) but I'm going to treat him anyway just to be safe. I leave for school in an hour and could use any advice you guys have. I'll keep a "journal" on here of what I'm doing. I make my first wc to ro at around 2pm pst.
**EDIT** There are also 2 ocellaris clowns in there who aren't showing any signs. I guess I got lucky with healthy fish this time. I'd still like to be safe with these since I have lost 3 fish in my beginning journey to swa.
 

bpro32

Member
Ok I've done 2 water changes of 3 gallons each on my 28 gallon qt, replacing salt water with fresh ro. sg went from 1.020 to 1.016. Ph dropped down to 7.8 so I added 3 ml of brightwell aquatics kh buffer to raise the ph. I haven't tested again yet to see how much it changed. All 3 fish are eating well and looking fine. All water changes tomorrow will be 1 or 2 gallons at a time.
 

bpro32

Member
Morning update:
All fish are out swimming except for the kole tang who runs away if I get too close to the tank without food in my hand. I haven't fed yet this morning but checked parameters and sg=1.016 and ph was at 8.0 before I added another 2 ml of buffer. Off to feed, then 1 gallon water change.
 

beth

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Staff member
Sounds like you are doing the right thing doing hypo. Are you using a refractometer? If there is a chance that your QT will experience ammonia, it is better to keep the pH lower, rather than higher. 8.0.
 

bpro32

Member
No chance on ammonia as my tank has been cycled for over 2 months. I did another 2 gallon water change and the sg has dropped to 1.014 so I guess I'll start with bigger water changes since it is not affecting the sg as much as it was in the beginning. I'm heading to the lfs now but will perform another 3g wc and tests when I get back.
Thanks Beth
 

bpro32

Member
Actually no 3g wc I just realized I only started with this last night. I'll make a gallon wc when I go to sleep tonight and call it a day.
 

beth

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Staff member
Usually, its best to take out all the water you plan to take out that day, and then add the fresh water back in 1 gal at a time in small increments. This way, you avoid wasting so much water.
Do you have a refractometer?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2979808
No chance on ammonia as my tank has been cycled for over 2 months. I did another 2 gallon water change and the sg has dropped to 1.014 so I guess I'll start with bigger water changes since it is not affecting the sg as much as it was in the beginning. I'm heading to the lfs now but will perform another 3g wc and tests when I get back.
Thanks Beth
Are you testing for ammonia? Don't count on "no chance." There is a big chance, unless you meticulously kept up on ghost feeding the tank.
Beth is spot on with how to do the changes. Pull water out, then dribble fresh in. Don't do large changes at once.
 

bpro32

Member
I wasn't meticulous about ghost feeding but I did do it. The tank was used as a lr curing tank before it turned into a qt, I took the lr out the day before I put fish in it so I never felt the need to test for ammonia. Do you think I should?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2981068
Ok so I got my last fish into qt, and I will resume with dropping the sg tomorrow morning.
Have you tested the ammonia?? You should have been testing ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, PH, SG, and temp all along. How do you know what is going on in there if you don't test?? Testing is extremely important. You will have to test the SG twice per day and top off as needed.
 

bpro32

Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2981072
Have you tested the ammonia?? You should have been testing ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, PH, SG, and temp all along. How do you know what is going on in there if you don't test?? Testing is extremely important. You will have to test the SG twice per day and top off as needed.
I have tested everything just nothing significant enough to report I thought.
ammonia=0
nitrites=0
nitrates between 10-20
the lowest the ph has been is 7.8 but I added some buffer and got it back up to 8.1-8.2 range
I have almost no evaporation but I do test sg several times a day. Pretty much every time I go into the room where the tank is I check my sg.
Did I miss anything?
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2981109
I have tested everything just nothing significant enough to report I thought.
ammonia=0
nitrites=0
nitrates between 10-20
the lowest the ph has been is 7.8 but I added some buffer and got it back up to 8.1-8.2 range
I have almost no evaporation but I do test sg several times a day. Pretty much every time I go into the room where the tank is I check my sg.
Did I miss anything?
I think I missed something along the way because you just said:
Originally Posted by bpro32

http:///forum/post/2980288
I wasn't meticulous about ghost feeding but I did do it. The tank was used as a lr curing tank before it turned into a qt, I took the lr out the day before I put fish in it so I never felt the need to test for ammonia. Do you think I should?

You just asked if you should test ammonia. That kind of led me to believe that you haven't been testing it. The fish will not do well if ammonia is present. Keep a close eye on that. Be sure to check the SG twice per day.
 

bpro32

Member
Sorry if I have been confusing at all it has been a long day and I am operating with a concussion.
I tested everything after you asked that. I have been testing nitrates, ph, sg the whole time I've had fish in my qt.
forgot to mention... temp is right around 80 at all times.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2981127
Sorry if I have been confusing at all it has been a long day and I am operating with a concussion.
I tested everything after you asked that. I have been testing nitrates, ph, sg the whole time I've had fish in my qt.
forgot to mention... temp is right around 80 at all times.
Well, assuming all information is correct, then you should be good to go. Still keep testing and be prepared to do water changes if needed. A bottle of Amquel plus is a good thing to have handy.
 

bpro32

Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2981129
Well, assuming all information is correct, then you should be good to go. Still keep testing and be prepared to do water changes if needed. A bottle of Amquel plus is a good thing to have handy.
Really people use that in swa? I have a bunch extra from when I had freshwater tanks, cool.
Once I get down to 1.009 I'm going to have a 5 gallon bucket of 1.009 sw with a ph and heater at all times ready to go. I will keep testing, every time something changes for now and at least 2x sg every day.
I'm glad to see you are keeping on top of me sep, thanks
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2981134
Really people use that in swa? I have a bunch extra from when I had freshwater tanks, cool.
Once I get down to 1.009 I'm going to have a 5 gallon bucket of 1.009 sw with a ph and heater at all times ready to go. I will keep testing, every time something changes for now and at least 2x sg every day.
I'm glad to see you are keeping on top of me sep, thanks
Yep, Amquel plus works very well for help with unexpected spikes. Your plan sounds good. Let us know how it goes
 

bpro32

Member
Ok...
nitrates:10
ph:7.8 (before I added 4ml buffer)
sg: 1.013--still have to add about a gallon of fw tonight before I go to bed
We're almost there
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by bpro32
http:///forum/post/2982274
Ok...
nitrates:10
ph:7.8 (before I added 4ml buffer)
sg: 1.013--still have to add about a gallon of fw tonight before I go to bed
We're almost there

Don't buffer it too high. Should you get an ammonia spike, the lower PH will benefit. Ammonia is even more toxic in higher PH.
 
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