Statements contradict each other on the board?

jgonier

jgonier

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Everyone says not to add too many things to your tank at one time, but how can you not? If you order from this site I need to order at least $75.00 worth of fish before the site will accept my order. When I do this I end up with about 5 to 10 items. According to what everyone says, you shouldn't add this many at one time. So how can everyone say that. If that is true, than you would think the site would allow me to order just one or two fish at a time and pay the shipping, instead EVERYTHING has free shipping and then you have to order $75.00 worth before it will even accept your order.
What's the deal anyhow?:notsure:
 
nas19320

nas19320

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Mix and match. You don't want to add 5 fish at a time but maybe 1 or 2 fish, and use the rest to bulk up your cleaner crew or buy some corals.
 
squidd

squidd

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I just want one Harliquen Tusk...Thats $89 so I still have to kick in another $14...:D
 
jgonier

jgonier

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Originally posted by Squidd
I just want one Harliquen Tusk...Thats $89 so I still have to kick in another $14...:D
?:notsure:
Minimum order is $75.00, so just that item should do it.
 
jgonier

jgonier

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Originally posted by Squidd
I just want one Harliquen Tusk...Thats $89 so I still have to kick in another $14 ...:D
89 + 14 =:thinking:
That's how you wrote it, so that's how I took it.
Harlequin Tusk 3-5 inches $89.99. That's all you need for an order. Don't know what you mean by the $14.00.
 
jgonier

jgonier

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Originally posted by Melody
It's not hard at all for me to rack up $75.00 worth of livestock. Usually a fish, some inverts and a coral or two.
That's what I mean. It's easy to get to $75.00, but everyone says not to add that much at one time is what I am saying. But if you have to order $75.00 worth of stuff in order to order from this site, then you don't have any choice to add it all at once. That's all I'm saying.
People have been telling me that inverts and corals also count like fish do towards your bio-load. Even if you order like that "Usually a fish, some inverts and a coral or two", then from what people have been saying is that would be to big a bio-load for your tank at one time, and thus, not recomended.
So with that, what I am saying then is this. If this site is setting a minimum order limit of $75.00, and I cannot put everything in at one time when I get it, then how can I order from this site.
Hope I cleared up what I was trying to say here.
 
squidd

squidd

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But inverts and corals do not add to the bioload like fish do ...
With a fish you are adding a "lifeform" that needs additional feeding and adds additional waste...
The inverts don't get fed additional food they live off the waste in the tank, helping to clean and breakdown waste products produced by the fish...
Corals as well, for the most part, "cleanse" the water by removing nutrients and planktonic life as in "filter feeders"...as well as nitrates and phosphates in the case of Xenia, Clams, Macros and Mangroves. (Which are plants/also available on this site)
Most everybody can use a few extra crabs,snails or brittle star to "fill" an order...
 
dicemanj

dicemanj

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It seems easy for a reef tank, I have an aggresive set up and it is hard to find $75 of fish, what stinks is I need a porc puffer, my LFS sells them for $35, this site $13. My delema is spend $35 on one fish, or order more fish and rish the bio load issue.
 
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sebae0

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then i would say that the lfs is your best choice to get your stuff then ordering from here, its a simple answer.
 
jgonier

jgonier

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Originally posted by Squidd
But inverts and corals do not add to the bioload like fish do ...
With a fish you are adding a "lifeform" that needs additional feeding and adds additional waste...
The inverts don't get fed additional food they live off the waste in the tank, helping to clean and breakdown waste products produced by the fish...
Corals as well, for the most part, "cleanse" the water by removing nutrients and planktonic life as in "filter feeders"...as well as nitrates and phosphates in the case of Xenia, Clams, Macros and Mangroves. (Which are plants/also available on this site)
Most everybody can use a few extra crabs,snails or brittle star to "fill" an order...
But inverts and anemones and star fish also add waste to the tank, do they not? They have to "go to the bathroom to", so wouldn't they then be adding to the bio-load just as fish do? Maybe not in as big of a way as fish, but still adding to it anyhow. Right?
 
squidd

squidd

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Originally posted by JGonier
...wouldn't they then be adding to the bio-load just as fish do? Maybe not in as big of a way as fish, but still adding to it anyhow.
An Anemone maybe, IF you chose to feed it, most are fed by the "hosting" clown sharing it's food...Adaquite Lighting minimizes the need to add "additional" food...
Inverts and Star fish eat the waste already present...Breaking it down further...so there is no additional waste added...In fact by breaking it down through further digestion it makes it more eatable for the pods and micro fauna to consume and digest..which in turn makes it easier for the bacteria to process to nitrAte and eventually nitrogen gas...
So by choosing "wisely" (other than fish) there are many things to add to your order that will have minimal impact on your bio load and some that are actually benifical...
 
socer03dud

socer03dud

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I agree I mean what if you already have your share of starfish, shrimp and corals, and you just want to get a clown fish for say, their about $15, I don't want to find all the extra stuff to buy and spend 75$ when all I really wanted to spend was $15, my local pet store sells them for about the same price, So I guess i lucked out, but with the other fish I know their cheaper here....
 
bang guy

bang guy

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Originally posted by JGonier
But inverts and anemones and star fish also add waste to the tank, do they not?
Yep. Ounce for Ounce they add a similar amount of waste as fish. Most inverts are small and therefore add only a small amount to the bioload. Many inverts scanvenge or eat detritus, these are the inverts that have a positive effect on the bioload.
 
clint_reno

clint_reno

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. . . trying to get a balanced amount of critters, (fish, corals, plants and verts) while coming in as close to the $75 minimum.
It takes time, but I've done pretty well. One order was under eighty bucks! Jammed packed full of goodies!
 
sailfin

sailfin

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Originally posted by JGonier
89 + 14 =:thinking:
That's how you wrote it, so that's how I took it.
Harlequin Tusk 3-5 inches $89.99. That's all you need for an order. Don't know what you mean by the $14.00.
I would like an answer for this. It is killing me. Squid $89 > $75. With that being said you can get free shipping without adding the oddball amount of $14. What's the deal???
:notsure:
 
squidd

squidd

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Dude, The thread started out saying in order to get to the $75 minimum you would have to order 3-4 fish and that was "contradictory" to the accepted practice of one fish at a time...
I stated I wanted ONE fish, it cost $89...I met the minimum of $75... (for Free Shipping)
And I still have to Kick in $14 to get the fish
:rolleyes:
I guess the point is the $75 minimum for Free shipping does not require you to "overload" your tank...You can get one fish and make the minimum (and still have to kick in some extra) or you could easily get One fish and add other inverts,corals, whatever to get to the minimum...Without contradicting/compromising your tank...
 
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