florida joe
Well-Known Member
I mean this with all due respect but there may be the potential for some problems
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nihoa
Guest
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2955558
I mean this with all due respect but there may be the potential for some problems
im open to constructive criticism. what confuses you about the divider and what problems do you foresee?
http:///forum/post/2955558
I mean this with all due respect but there may be the potential for some problems
im open to constructive criticism. what confuses you about the divider and what problems do you foresee?
aquarium125g
Member
hello, let me tell you i was trying to do the same you are doing to save some $$$$, and ended up spending more, if i were you , i will stop braking my head trying to make that work and buy your self a overflow box , its actually better cus you can adjust the height so when you lose power, you dont flood your house.
aquarium125g
Member
on the refugium looks good but i will give you an idea put another divider on the refugium part not the pump side so the water goes under and over to the pump that way you dont pump back bad water. if you want let me know and i will post pics on my tanl so get an idea.
aquarium125g
Member
by the way what type of pump are you using ? how many gallon per hour does it pump? how many gallons is you aquarium?
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Nihoa
http:///forum/post/2955586
im open to constructive criticism. what confuses you about the divider and what problems do you foresee?
Ok this is how I see it and remember this Is just me and not a reflexion on your sump/refuge idea. I am assuming the sump/refug is in its permanent place. And the hight of the water was established taking in to consideration the back flow when the pump is turned off. It seems as if the water is just over the top of the divider. What happens when you have evaporation? How does the water get from the left side (refug) to the right side (pump) I am assuming you are going to use the valve to tweek flow into your refug why not add a piece of PVC with multiple holes drilled into it. You will disperse the water with less of a current with will help you if you are going to use a sand or mud bed. You can also cover the PVC with blue/white filter material so you are taking solids out before your refug. But that can be addressed later. My major concern is the divider can you explain your reasoning for its height
http:///forum/post/2955586
im open to constructive criticism. what confuses you about the divider and what problems do you foresee?
Ok this is how I see it and remember this Is just me and not a reflexion on your sump/refuge idea. I am assuming the sump/refug is in its permanent place. And the hight of the water was established taking in to consideration the back flow when the pump is turned off. It seems as if the water is just over the top of the divider. What happens when you have evaporation? How does the water get from the left side (refug) to the right side (pump) I am assuming you are going to use the valve to tweek flow into your refug why not add a piece of PVC with multiple holes drilled into it. You will disperse the water with less of a current with will help you if you are going to use a sand or mud bed. You can also cover the PVC with blue/white filter material so you are taking solids out before your refug. But that can be addressed later. My major concern is the divider can you explain your reasoning for its height
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nihoa
Guest
Originally Posted by AQUARIUM125G
http:///forum/post/2955625
by the way what type of pump are you using ? how many gallon per hour does it pump? how many gallons is you aquarium?
pump is a hagen aqua clear 270 gph. the tank is 33g.
http:///forum/post/2955625
by the way what type of pump are you using ? how many gallon per hour does it pump? how many gallons is you aquarium?
pump is a hagen aqua clear 270 gph. the tank is 33g.
aquarium125g
Member
this is how i have my tank, regarding evaporation its simply he can just add water to the tank every one or two days or put a top off switch combine the the ro/di filter
aquarium125g
Member
i add one gallon every day, its my daily routing
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nihoa
Guest
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2955653
Ok this is how I see it and remember this Is just me and not a reflexion on your sump/refuge idea. I am assuming the sump/refug is in its permanent place. And the hight of the water was established taking in to consideration the back flow when the pump is turned off. It seems as if the water is just over the top of the divider. What happens when you have evaporation? How does the water get from the left side (refug) to the right side (pump) I am assuming you are going to use the valve to tweek flow into your refug why not add a piece of PVC with multiple holes drilled into it. You will disperse the water with less of a current with will help you if you are going to use a sand or mud bed. You can also cover the PVC with blue/white filter material so you are taking solids out before your refug. But that can be addressed later. My major concern is the divider can you explain your reasoning for its height
alright, so as i understood it i should separate the fuge and sump by a divider that water would just barely flow over into the next compartment which would keep fuge critters and all the algae in the fuge. so the height for the divider was going to be my water level and water would come into the fuge and then tumble into the sump. i may have this totally wrong but i guess i was trying to have the first compartment overflow into the second? the height of the divider is low enough that the fuge/sump could handle water from the tank without overflowing in the event of a power outage. how would you recommend having it?
the piece of pvc you suggest adding is in the fuge and disperses incoming flow? good idea, i will mod that.
yes, im using the ball valves to tweek the flow.
man, dont worry about offending. 99% of ideas require reworking to become quality productions so fire away.
http:///forum/post/2955653
Ok this is how I see it and remember this Is just me and not a reflexion on your sump/refuge idea. I am assuming the sump/refug is in its permanent place. And the hight of the water was established taking in to consideration the back flow when the pump is turned off. It seems as if the water is just over the top of the divider. What happens when you have evaporation? How does the water get from the left side (refug) to the right side (pump) I am assuming you are going to use the valve to tweek flow into your refug why not add a piece of PVC with multiple holes drilled into it. You will disperse the water with less of a current with will help you if you are going to use a sand or mud bed. You can also cover the PVC with blue/white filter material so you are taking solids out before your refug. But that can be addressed later. My major concern is the divider can you explain your reasoning for its height
alright, so as i understood it i should separate the fuge and sump by a divider that water would just barely flow over into the next compartment which would keep fuge critters and all the algae in the fuge. so the height for the divider was going to be my water level and water would come into the fuge and then tumble into the sump. i may have this totally wrong but i guess i was trying to have the first compartment overflow into the second? the height of the divider is low enough that the fuge/sump could handle water from the tank without overflowing in the event of a power outage. how would you recommend having it?
the piece of pvc you suggest adding is in the fuge and disperses incoming flow? good idea, i will mod that.
yes, im using the ball valves to tweek the flow.
man, dont worry about offending. 99% of ideas require reworking to become quality productions so fire away.
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nihoa
Guest
aquarium125, thanks for the pics. im having trouble figuring out what is going on with your setup. can you give me a run down of what that all is and how it differs from what im doing?
aquarium125g
Member
the cycle beging in the overflow box there it is syphon down to the filtering media and bioballs there is a divider there, then passes to the refugium where the sand and chaeto algae is then you have two dividers so the water goes under and over to the pump area then is pumped back to tank, now the divider between the refugium and the pump can not be too high, i wil say a little more than than half of the tank
aquarium125g
Member
i made a cheap drawing but i think you can get the idea from this
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nihoa
Guest
alright. so i dont have an overflow box, im syphoning direct to the fuge and you have two dividers between fuge/sump. what is the purpose of the divider coming down from the top and not quite to the bottom?
aquarium125g
Member
thats to keep the chaeto in place and the bad water getting pump back in to the tank, now here is a video its very helpfull, you can get alot of ideas from it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnug...e=channel_page
aquarium125g
Member
now you need an overflow box its the only way you are going to get that to work, and forget about pvc valves you dont need then, i found a overflow video it good look at it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdpaQ_A-tqk
ludakris_123
New Member
i was wounder what size pump i would need for my return..i have a 55 gallon tank with a 30 gallon custom made sump..please help..thanks
aquarium125g
Member
You want to aim at turning over the tank water at least 6-10 times per hour. Many aquarists feel that you cannot have too much water movement, and now days striving for a 15-20 times per hour ratio is not unheard of. I feel this is not necessary for a fish-only tank, but is beneficial for a reef tank. You want to give the tank sufficient water movement and circulation, but not so much that the fish can't move against the currents, or the other tank inhabitants are getting battered by it. and will say min size pump 700gph
florida joe
Well-Known Member
You seem to be in good hands. Just address the divider issue in your system and look into a simple method of pre filtering the influent to your sump/refug with some mechanical filter media (blue/white filter pad)
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nihoa
Guest
Originally Posted by AQUARIUM125G
http:///forum/post/2955805
thats to keep the chaeto in place and the bad water getting pump back in to the tank, now here is a video its very helpfull, you can get alot of ideas from it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnug...e=channel_page
alright, i pulled all the water out and im adding a second divider. sucks cus i didnt have a single piece of glass large enough and had to join two smaller. bit ugly but it works. in your diagram then is your water level just at your last divider? overflowing or does the second divider let you have your water line above that second divider?
http:///forum/post/2955805
thats to keep the chaeto in place and the bad water getting pump back in to the tank, now here is a video its very helpfull, you can get alot of ideas from it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxnug...e=channel_page
alright, i pulled all the water out and im adding a second divider. sucks cus i didnt have a single piece of glass large enough and had to join two smaller. bit ugly but it works. in your diagram then is your water level just at your last divider? overflowing or does the second divider let you have your water line above that second divider?