Syria... To bomb or not to bomb, that is the question.

mantisman51

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IF Iran attacks us, then we attack Iran. But I'm tired of these worthless proxy wars. Not just "No" to attacking Syria, "Hell no!". We need to remove ourselves from the cluster-fudge that is the Arab world and let them figure out what they want. If we are attacked then retaliate hard and fast, without an extended war and "regime change". Maybe I would feel different if my son-in-law, who I love like my own flesh and blood wasn't over in the quagmire of Afghanistan, but he is and I can't think, as hard as I try, why one damn goatherder is worth his life-the father of my granddaughter. Obama is a vile, evil man. Anything he says to justify going in is crap from the first word. If we aren't attacked, stay the hell out.
 
mantisman51

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http://www.examiner.com/article/media-blackout-syrian-rebels-gang-raped-executed-15-year-old-girl

Just a little taste of who Hussein Obama wants to help. Just one of hundreds of things these "freedom fighters", that Hussein Obama supports, are fighting for.
 
beth

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Well, Obama has an out now that the former KGB now President Putin paved the way to peace. He can accept the chems deal without dropping bombs thereby dodge disgrace when Congress votes NO. An added benefit is now he can claim he obtained through his leadership chems that belonged to Saddam. He got bin Ladin and the chems, something Bush couldn't do. A win for Obama.

"I don't think we would have gotten to this point unless we had maintained a credible possibility for a military strike and I don't think now is the time for us to let up on that," Obama said.
 
darthtang aw

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Well, Obama has an out now that the former KGB now President Putin paved the way to peace.  He can accept the chems deal without dropping bombs thereby dodge disgrace when Congress votes NO.  An added benefit is now he can claim he obtained through his leadership chems that belonged to Saddam.  He got bin Ladin and the chems, something Bush couldn't do.  A win for Obama.
"I don't think we would have gotten to this point unless we had maintained a credible possibility for a military strike and I don't think now is the time for us to let up on that," Obama said.
If the chems deal is doable in a war zone, if assad cooperates, and if the rebels don't have their own captured wmds.......................
 
2quills

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Funny how one could be up for an award like that with such a questionable history and mysterious deaths of his enemies that seem to lead back to his door step.
Am I the only one here that feels like Putins call for a peaceful solution seems so oh I dont know, uncharacteristic perhaps?
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/396245/syria-to-bomb-or-not-to-bomb-that-is-the-question/60#post_3530736
Funny how one could be up for an award like that with such a questionable history and mysterious deaths of his enemies that seem to lead back to his door step.
Am I the only one here that feels like Putins call for a peaceful solution seems so oh I dont know, uncharacteristic perhaps?

He actually has vision. Unlike our President and Secretary of State.
 
2quills

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Well as long as he gets something out of the deal then I guess he can be the prize winner for the day.
 
2quills

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy http:///t/396245/syria-to-bomb-or-not-to-bomb-that-is-the-question/60#post_3530768


Hypothetically, what do you think the US should do if Russia sends a few missiles into Italy or some other small allied country?

Probably wouldn't bother me so much unless they took out Rome. It would be a shame to lose all of those historical treasures.

As with anything, situations should be evaluated on a case by case basis. A call for action should require approval from the majority in this country and the majority of this country should be privy to more information then what we are. If Putin ever got that bold then it probably would be cause for concern since he seems like a fairly calculated fellow.
 
bang guy

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My point is that Syria is a strong ally to Russia. If we did a limited strike into Syria then Russia would have to do something.
 
beth

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What do you think Russia would do? Maybe provide Syria with more chemical weapons then they are already giving them?
 
2quills

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Which is why I've been dead set against it since the attack happened. Starting another war isn't what I want to hear for this country. If we can't fix the problems that we have here at home then how can we continue managing this abroad? It's going to keep going until we have enough people hating us that they all start rallying against us. I don't think what happened was right and someone should be held accountable. But this really should be a group effort with the rest of the world or else what are we doing?
 
bang guy

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Originally Posted by Beth http:///t/396245/syria-to-bomb-or-not-to-bomb-that-is-the-question/60#post_3530782
What do you think Russia would do? Maybe provide Syria with more chemical weapons then they are already giving them?


If I recall correctly, Syria developed its own chemical weapons.

On another front, international inspectors are convinced that the Al-Qaeda rebels set off the chemical weapons in order to get the US involved against Assad but the US is still plowing down the path of Assad doing it.
 
2quills

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Russia has been supplying Syria with weapons systems through contracts. Jets and air defense type stuff. But not chems that I've heard.

I can't see why Obama is so head strong to attack Assad's systems if not for personal victory. Bush, thought we were going to go into Iraq and declare victory after a few months. We see how well that turned out. There is no such thing as a limited strike, hit it and quit type of solution in the middle east. Never has been. I don't support his strike but I know he needs to keep up his poker face now that he's opened up his big mouth.
 
beth

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Dropping bombs to "punish" a country for their own civil war seems odd. Dying by chemicals or dying by bombs seems all the same to me. Its still dying. Once and for all, the US needs to relinquish its police mentality and return to pre-WW2 mentality.

Also, you want to wager who has more chemical and bio weapons, us or Syria?
 
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