Teacher beats the heck out of a student

lovethesea

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someone should have tasered her.
Something got her totally enraged or built upfrustration.. no excuse, but it will be interesting to hear what lead up to this. "dicipline" problems, not enough teacher support, and the article said she thought he was threatening to beat up a girl. She said "so you like to beat up on little girls". Maybe she is a victim of domestic violence and she snapped. Like I said, no excuse, but it will be interesting to see the facts.
 
ibanez

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Here is a quote: Isaiah Johnson said it all started as he and other classmates watched and laughed as a mentally challenged girl danced.
That's when he says the teacher attacked the 13-year-old. Isaiah said he was beaten by the teacher, with other teachers looking on, right there in the classroom.
"The teachers piled up and they were looking over each others shoulders just watching," Isaiah said.
David Jones, the principal of the school, released a statement later in the day.
"There is no excuse for a teacher to behave in this way with a child," Jones said. "Although we had already removed the teacher from the classroom and put her on administrative duty, we now plan to terminate the teacher and make an apology to the student and his mother."
Jones said the school will be investigating whether other teachers saw the incident and did not report it.
Alesha Johnson has taken the tape and filed criminal charges with the Harris County Sheriff's Office.
Jamie's House Charter School is a Texas Accredited Charter School. It opened in 1999 and is currently in good standing.
 
lovethesea

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you didn't put the the rest of the story.......
'They were all dancing around, playing and they had music going and they were dancing.
'One of the girls told my son "Shut up, stop laughing at me or I'll punch you in the face".
'My son was jumping around saying "come on hit me then".
'The teacher saw him through the window and that's when she came in saying "You want to beat on little girls?" saying she should teach him a lesson.
 
ibanez

ibanez

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Not anymore.
I think we have all seen a kid like this who is bigger than the rest of the class and likes to bully kids and make fun of kids without problems.
An adult should never fight a child like that, period. But she could have asked another student a grade or two above the kid to do it.
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3269119
BUT...is it her job to teach that lesson with violence

I'm a fan of taking someone out to the wood shed... But in this case, no wood shed was needed... I believe dicipline should be cool calm, collected, and calculating... And that was nothing of the sort.
 
reefraff

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I was somewhat of an expert on getting swats and the administrator of said was always calm and in control. The more I think about it they should have drug tested the woman. I don't believe an adult that could attain a teaching position could go that far over the edge with out some sort of pharmaceutical aid but maybe.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by IbanEz
http:///forum/post/3269133
Not anymore.
I think we have all seen a kid like this who is bigger than the rest of the class and likes to bully kids and make fun of kids without problems.
An adult should never fight a child like that, period. But she could have asked another student a grade or two above the kid to do it.

I was going to say the exact opposite based on my previous response. This kid seemed to be one of the younger, smaller kids in the class. Wait till the video pans back to the rest of the class, they look like seniors, and he looks like maybe a freshman. IMO/IME in these situations it usually causes the little kids to "act a fool" to try and warrant some respect from the older kids.
 
lovethesea

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this is what I am trying to say......there is something else here at work. Nothing condones what she did, as I said many many times in my post, NO EXCUSES!! But with that said, there is something else going on here. Were there some abuse issues at the school? Home?, administration not backing teachers? etc. Still does NOT MAKE THIS RIGHT!!! Again, I said it, but this chick went postal for some reaon. Mental, drugs, abuse at home, abuse at school? This is something that could become more prevalent in the future with over crowded classes, school districts have to raise children, children that have many issues and parent won't deal with it, total disrespect and lack of back up for teachers etc. Again, NO EXCUSE, but this is something that needs to be identified so that moving forward students and teachers are protected.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/3269198
this is what I am trying to say......there is something else here at work. Nothing condones what she did, as I said many many times in my post, NO EXCUSES!! But with that said, there is something else going on here. Were there some abuse issues at the school? Home?, administration not backing teachers? etc. Still does NOT MAKE THIS RIGHT!!! Again, I said it, but this chick went postal for some reaon. Mental, drugs, abuse at home, abuse at school? This is something that could become more prevalent in the future with over crowded classes, school districts have to raise children, children that have many issues and parent won't deal with it, total disrespect and lack of back up for teachers etc. Again, NO EXCUSE, but this is something that needs to be identified so that moving forward students and teachers are protected.

I agree with you, this didn’t happen out of the blue. Things reached a boiling point; I don’t think the children’s laughing in the background was at the kid getting hit…they were laughing and unruly when it all hit the fan. That young fellow was probably the ring leader who was disrupting the class on regular bases. The teacher finally got a belly full of his antics and lashed out. (Wrong thing to do for sure)
Kids need to understand they can push a person just so far. I wish that teacher could have held her cool. Absolutely with that kind of temper she should not be teaching. Her loss of control now taught the kids they have the power, and a teacher can’t do a thing about it. She trashed her career, ruined her own life and accomplished nothing. The price was so not worth it.
What she did was assault the child, because she was aggravated to the boiling point and she should be in jail.
I don’t doubt she had a right to be very angry and at first it looks like she wanted to take him out of class. He refused to go and she tried to drag him, when she couldn’t the beating began. She handled her anger and frustration in the wrong way. Sigh… at such a hefty price.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3269218

I agree with you, this didn’t happen out of the blue. Things reached a boiling point; I don’t think the children’s laughing in the background was at the kid getting hit…they were laughing and unruly when it all hit the fan. That young fellow was probably the ring leader who was disrupting the class on regular bases. The teacher finally got a belly full of his antics and lashed out. (Wrong thing to do for sure)
Kids need to understand they can push a person just so far. I wish that teacher could have held her cool. Absolutely with that kind of temper she should not be teaching. Her loss of control now taught the kids they have the power, and a teacher can’t do a thing about it. She trashed her career, ruined her own life and accomplished nothing. The price was so not worth it.
What she did was assault the child, because she was aggravated to the boiling point and she should be in jail.
I don’t doubt she had a right to be very angry and at first it looks like she wanted to take him out of class. He refused to go and she tried to drag him, when she couldn’t the beating began. She handled her anger and frustration in the wrong way. Sigh… at such a hefty price.
It was a school for kids with behavior issues. What was she to expect? But you bring up a good point about teacher's hand being tied. God forbid we hold kids accountable and actually make them mind.
 
flower

flower

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3269245
Children should never need to understand that.


I disagree.
Children do NEED to understand that they can push a person to a breaking point, because it could save their lives. There are allot of crazies out there. Young people don’t realize that teasing certain kinds of people, even their own school mates, may result in a serious altercation they can’t handle.
Not because the crazy person who lost their temper and hurt them as a result is in the right.
We teach our children to look both ways before crossing a street, we teach them to watch for danger. Teach them not to aggravate a situation. That when they see someone getting angry to stop before it can escalate into a situation where someone gets hurt.
 
handbanana

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Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3269329

I disagree.
Children do NEED to understand that they can push a person to a breaking point, because it could save their lives. There are allot of crazies out there. Young people don’t realize that teasing certain kinds of people, even their own school mates, may result in a serious altercation they can’t handle.
Not because the crazy person who lost their temper and hurt them as a result is in the right.
We teach our children to look both ways before crossing a street, we teach them to watch for danger. Teach them not to aggravate a situation. That when they see someone getting angry to stop before it can escalate into a situation where someone gets hurt.
I agree with you Flower. There is a need to teach kids that some people have no qualms about hurting others and just need to be pushed so far to do so. You really never what a person is capable of. Its really kind of scary. Road rage is a perfect example, a person cuts you off, you flip them off and at the next light get shot in the face. It happens all the time.
I also think there is a lot more going on under the surface here.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3269245
Children should never need to understand that.

I think what she means is (I think) that they should not have to understand that concept by abuse.
those kids already know what they are doing, that is why they are there. They don't deserve to have the crap beaten out of them. This school needs to set higher demands from parents if there kid is going to be there. That system at that school is obviously broken.
 
cranberry

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Actually, I mean a kid should never have to think that the consequences of their actions will be met with physical abuse from an adult in a position of trust. Period.
 
meowzer

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Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3269386
Actually, I mean a kid should never have to think that the consequences of their actions will be met with physical abuse from an adult in a position of trust. Period.
+1,000,000,000,000
 
cranberry

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I know I sound like the mush mush one, but I'm a mean one. Certain things are expected of a child (well, and adults of course). If they step outside of this expectancy, punishment will ensue. But I can't teach a kid to expect illegal behavior as punishment for their actions.
 
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