Temp And Ick?

rgaskins

Member
I purchased a fish from my LFS ( I know better but did it anyway)...Well he has Ick now my tank has it...The guy at the LFS said to bump the temp up to 85 deg and that would fix the ick problem...He stated that ick can't survive in that warm temp...This don't sound right to me, what do you guys think? Thanks for any help...:help:
 

lefty

Active Member
Your LFS was partially right. Bumping the temperature up to 80-82 degrees max will speed up the ich life cycle. But do not expose your fish to an 85 degree temperature. What all do you have in your tank? If you only have fish, you can perform hyposalinity in it. Along with the raised temperature, this will take care of ich. However, if you have inverts, LR, or any corals in your tank, you will need to do hypo in a QT with the fish. :)
-lefty
 

orangespot

Member
also, don't raise temp too quickly...I did that and I had an ich outbreak...raise it one degree a day at the most
 

rgaskins

Member
Hi, this would be a 125 gal...I do have a 30 gal that is fine, but there in not enough room for the live rock...I could put my snails and crabs in the 30 gal...The fish are...
1- cream angel
1-vermiculated angel
1-yellow tang
1-gold stripe maroon clown
The fish I got from the LFS that had the ick was a royal gramma...The day after I put him in the tank he was covered in spots...He later passed away...I just checked the tank and most of the spots are mostly gone from my fish...The tang has one maybe two spots left...I will keep things posted and thanks so much for taking the time to reply...
 

lefty

Active Member
Just because the spots aren't there doesn't mean the ich is gone. Ich has a free swimming phase in which they drop off the host, multiply like crazy, and reattach to the host stronger than ever. I still think your best bet would be to move the fish to a QT or two and perform hyposalinity. :)
-lefty
 

rgaskins

Member
Do I have time to go ahead and setupa QT tanks? If so what size would be good for these fish...Also, does it have to be a tank? Can it be like a large Rubbermaid container or soomething like that?...Thanks Again
 

lefty

Active Member
A rubbermaid container would work, but the only problem with using those is that it's harder to see the fish to observe them. You say you have a 30g QT. How big are your fish? It's okay to put your fish in that size of a tank since it's temporary. Plus, holding tanks and ones at the LFS with these kinds of fish are rarely over 10 gallons as it is. The only thing I'm unsure about are the behavior of all these fish together in a smaller tank. I think it's up to your best judgement to decide if all the fish would be okay in this size of a tank together. You may need to buy another smaller tank or use a rubbermaid for one or two of the other fish. But again, this is up to you since I don't know how your fish behave around each other.
It is possible to set up an uncycled "emergency" QT(s). I currently have one going right now. If you're going to do this, you'll need to do large and frequent water changes to avoid the tank undergoing a cycle. My problem was that I couldn't keep up with the ammonia, no matter how many water changes I did, and I couldn't bear the thought of exposing my firefish to ammonia so I started using Amquel+. It eliminates ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates in the water. I would never use this product in my display tank, but since it IS an emergency QT, extreme measures must be taken. Also keep in mind that hyposalinity can affect the pH. I started using SeaChem's liquid marine buffer that maintains the pH at 8.3. Like I already said, I wouldn't use something like this in my display since chemical "quick fixes" aren't something I recommend. My firefish has been in the tank for 15 days and is doing fine.
If I were you, I would probably set the QT(s) up now. If you would like to try and cycle the QT(s) first, this would be fine as well. I'm not exactly sure how long it takes before ich becomes a serious threat to the lives of fish, but it does vary from case to case. If your fish start to become very stressed and don't look like they'll make it in time for the tank(s) to cycle, I would put them in the uncycled QT(s) right away.
I hope this helps. It's up to you to decide which step would be the best for your fish. :happyfish
-lefty
 

bang guy

Moderator
85F is a typical reef temperature. I assure you that it won't harm the Ick parasite nor the fish.
 
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