temp going crazzy

soo high

Member
my rio pump is making the water 85 degree and that when the heater off i think my pump is over heating. My pump is 2 inch under water, what should i do
 

soo high

Member
yea i just put 30 pound live rock in it and i dont want it to be dead rock :( because of the temp going to 85 and droping to 78 and rising up to 85 lol it crazy need help bad
 

soo high

Member
Originally Posted by dougai
my water stays near that temp and i can never keep it lower
do u have fish in ur??
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Why haven't you changed the pump?
That would be the first thing I would do. Next, put a fan blowing across the top of the water. Both should help.
 

soo high

Member
well it happen 3 hour ago lol im new to this salt water tank and i put my ac to 60 degree and i guess i have to by a new pump i mean it works good but i dont know why it making the water degree go up and down
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Ahh..
well, if it only went to 86 for 3 hours or so I can't imagine your live rock being permanently damaged.
Rio pumps have a bad reputation.
 

mikeyjer

Active Member
He should be investing in a new pump. Lots of people told me about rio pump being bad and all. I got the maxi jet 1200 instead, it works great for me. My temp did go up and down for a bit when my air stopped working. I turn the fan on to cool the tank until I get the air working again then it dropped back down and I had to turn up the heater for the tank. Good thing they didn't get sick through all that temp change. Hate it when air breaks down. Have to turn the heater down during winter though when I have my central heat on. Never had so much trouble maintaining temp in my freshwater, don't even use heater in them and they're just fine. Good Luck!
 
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jdragunas

Guest
hey there soo...
I wouldn't go about buying a chiller just now... they're pretty pricey.
This is what you should do. You should turn your heater on to 82 AND put a fan on the water. It may sound like they'd cancel eachother out, but it should stablize the temp. If that doesn't work, then i'd consider a chiller, but not at the moment.
And yes, get a new pump...
 

bang guy

Moderator
First turn your heater up to stop the temperature drop at night.
Then try a small fan pointed to blow air across the surface of the water.
85F is fine but it doesn't give you any wiggle room. If 86 is as high as it gets then I think a single fan will be all you need. Plug the fan into the same timer your lights are on and it will cool the water as the light heats it up.
All pumps heat up the water there's no way around it.
 

seavolcano

New Member
I use a 360 gal per hour sump pump in a 40 gal sump feeding a 75gal tank, the pump is one used for outdoor goldfish ponds magnetic rotation, it keeps the tank at 77 F as long as i keep the air in the house at 73 F, these pumps are cheaper than inline piped pumps, but create alot of heat because the entire pump is submerged in the tank, a sump with nice holes cut in the glass with pvc pipe running to sealed shaft external motored electric air cooled pumps add very little if any heat to the water because the water just goes through the pump impellers only and do not pick up heat from the electric motors. I decided to use the cheaper submersible pump so i would not need a heater. but then again leave it up to someone changing the temp setting in the house LOL!.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Originally Posted by seavolcano
sealed shaft external motored electric air cooled pumps add very little if any heat to the water because the water just goes through the pump impellers only and do not pick up heat from the electric motors.
Waterflow generates heat, there's no way around it. An external pump will not add residual heat to the tank but the waterflow it generates will add plenty of heat. A 100 watt, 95% efficient external pump will add the same amount of heat to the tank as a 95 watt heater. The same submerged water pump will add the same heat as a 100 watt heater. An external pump isn't going to save you all that much.
 

seavolcano

New Member
Water flow does create heat, yea thats right atoms moving against eachother in a high pressure area in a pvc pipe flowing from the pump this is kenitic heat not thermal heat production. heat will always be a problem especially in the summer , yea
 
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