texas the frzen tundra

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/383632/texas-the-frzen-tundra#post_3356656
Still waiting to hear how warming causes extreme cold in areas like Texas.
The Global Warming Affect is melting the Artic Ice Caps at a faster rate. When those caps melt, it produces larger and more widespread Artic front storms. Due to their increased size and intensity, the storms in turn will push further South and also create more intense winter storms in the North.

 

[monsinour]

North Carolina, near the applician mountains is a really nice place to live. Cherokee NC has great weather and a casino. Move to Asheville and you have all the benifits of a large town with a small town atmosphere. Its too far inland to be effected by hurricanes, the tornados dont make it across the mountains, when it snows, it usually melts the next day. Biggest weather headaches are the ice storms.
edit: as it stands ATM in Schenectady NY. Forecast was for 4-8 and I already shoveled about 5" this morning. I think there is an additional 2" on the ground. Here is the minivan I have to go and get our daughter from school in. They are closing early, but only 30 minutes. I dont know why but I do know there wont be school tomorrow.

Here is the swingset in the back yard. That teter totter thing's seats are about 2 feet or so off the ground. I have no idea where the swings are anymore.

This is a standard pool ladder. the steps are 1 foot apart. The step you see is the second step.

Best part about all this, tomorrows forecast is for snow. Anywhere from 1 foot to a foot and a half. Woo Hoo!

 

[deejeff442]

uh so melting ice at the north pole causes it to be below zero?common sense would say hell no.that makes absolutly no sense.so you think less than 100 years of industrial man will cause this ?even though the earth has been around for billions of years .unreal
just got home from a roll over accident and now my pipes are frozen.so i just set up the turbo heater to thaw them out.i did have the heat cord plugged in and it still froze.also when i got home my work truck ran out of gas so i took off the battery cable.so it will sit a few days.

 

[monsinour]

leave the faucet dripping and this will prevent the pipes from freezing. Its not the ice caps themselves that is causing the problem. Its all the freshwater released into the ocean and cooling the ocean's temp which inturn cools the tradewinds which makes for cooler weather. Odd aint it?

 

[deejeff442]

once i get the pipes un froze i will keep them dripping.so a 1/2 degree of decrease ocean will cause the temps to drop 40+ degrees below normal huh.plus the fact the only people saying the caps are melting are left wing tree huggers.maybe its made up like the global warming papers proven a farce lately.like i said earth is created billions of years ago and man making polution for 100.plus the fact maybe 1% of the world is industrialized.

 

[reefraff]

I feel sorry you you guys with water pipes in exterior walls and no frostless faucets.
Of course if you believe the myth of human caused "global warming" then you have to explain what happened to all that additional warm air the excess CO2 is creating. It can come live at my house for a couple more days.

 

[monsinour]

I had already stated that the human population is only responsible for 3% of the CO2 on this planet. But yea, cooler oceans = cooler air = crazy weather.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/383632/texas-the-frzen-tundra/20#post_3356749
I had already stated that the human population is only responsible for 3% of the CO2 on this planet. But yea, cooler oceans = cooler air = crazy weather.
That wasn't in response to your post. I agree with what you are saying. The climate is getting warmer but I don't believe it has a thing to do with co2

 

[novahobbies]

I'm neither "Left Wing," nor a Treehugger, but......

It's fairly clear these things are happening. Image here is a CGI composite taken from satellite imagery between 1979 and 2007. Yes, I know the photo could easily have been edited for dramatic impact. The original satellite photographs can still be found that show this as a fairly accurate representation, however.
Funny thing about our environment. Temperatures dip and change according to so many factors - human involvement included - that it becomes very difficult to point to one single agent and say "THIS is the cause." Our orbit does not stay PERFECTLY circular, and our polar wobble can have slight variations. Solar winds and intensity play a role. Plate tectonics, of all things, can be a factoralso. And of course, of course....man-made CO2 production as well as CFCs and methane (I blame the cows.....) DO have a part to play in this as well. You'd have to have your head seriously in the sand to claim that our actions play no part in this at all.
If you set that all aside, however, you come back to the main point about our weather: We can't control it. For instance, the earth is supposed to be going through a long-term warming trend right now -- we're in between ice ages, as some people like to say. However, a study was just published last month that indicates the globe is entering a "mini-cooldown period" for the next thirty years! They didn't deny the overall warming trend, they just said it was going to be broken by a short period of cooler temperatures.
I'm about as middle-of-the-road as you can get. I don't embrace a lot of values that are considered "leftist," but I do believe that our involvement in this planet can contribute to climate change....for better or worse. When all is said and done, the best things we can do are the little things. Turn off the lights when you're gone. Don't run the faucet while you're brushing your teeth. Try to save gas and schedule one large trip, instead of multiple little trips, to the store.
Don't buy a Prius. Huge carbon footprint, or so I hear. But...don't buy a Hummer unless you need it, either. ;-)
And finally, if you get tired of shoveling that snow in the dead of winter, come on down here to Florida for a visit. Have a beer with me on the east coast, then head on over to the gulf side and catch up with Florida Joe. If we're not out fishing or sunning on the beach, that is.........

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///forum/thread/383632/texas-the-frzen-tundra/20#post_3356738
once i get the pipes un froze i will keep them dripping.so a 1/2 degree of decrease ocean will cause the temps to drop 40+ degrees below normal huh.plus the fact the only people saying the caps are melting are left wing tree huggers.maybe its made up like the global warming papers proven a farce lately.like i said earth is created billions of years ago and man making polution for 100.plus the fact maybe 1% of the world is industrialized.
That's why I called it the Global Warming EFFECT. I imagine the majority of the warming is due to the Earth's natural warming trends. But scientist have factual evidence that CO2 and whatever gas emissions humans in an industrialized world have been spewing into the atmosphere for the last couple hundred years surely doesn't help.

 

[deejeff442]

got ya,i just dont agree that man has donr that much damage in 100 years.

 

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/383632/texas-the-frzen-tundra/20#post_3356761
But scientist have factual evidence that CO2 and whatever gas emissions humans in an industrialized world have been spewing into the atmosphere for the last couple hundred years surely doesn't help.

Biggest source of CO2 on the planet?
Our wonderful, beautiful oceans.

 

[reefraff]

The planet went through how many ice ages without help from man? The whole global warming issue is driven by people looking to achieve a goal having nothing to do with the weather for the most part. When the planet has a history of "climate change" since before the recorded history of man why should we assume human activity is causing the latest change. Might be a slight influence but I am not even sure I believe that. Not from CO2 anyway.
But I'd still like a little of that warm air sent my way.

 

[monsinour]

I think the biggest proof that all this go green carp is just that, carp is to look at what the leader of this is doing. Al Gore purchases green credits to make up for his over use of electricity and to offset his carbon foot print. Anyone know who owns the company that is selling Al Gore his green credits?
Thats right, Al Gore. Talk about money laundering! What a farce.

 

[reefraff]

If all these goobers really believed what they are trying to push on us do you think there is any way in hell they would allow companies to just pay a carbon tax to keep producing large amounts of CO2?

 

[mantisman51]

#1) one of the items that the global warming socialist cabal discussed in the leaked email was how they used summer pictures for the "after" and the winter pictures for the "before". It is totally normal seasonal ice melt. #2) Let's say that those are both June 1st pictures, per say. There was a vast grassy, temperate region known as Siberia and Alaska just before the last major ice age. You've, no doubt, seen the frozen mammoths and sabretooth tigers. So 20,000 years ago, all those pre-historic men and women were doing what to cause "global warming"? And, if the Arctic region was the 30-40 F warmer than now as believed, supporting such mammals, what will anything we as humans do to prevent another such "global warming"? I know, this is the new religion of the lefties, call it "The Order of I Hate Humans", so no historical or imperical data will suffice. As the Bible says, "Faith is the evidence of things not seen", so to is the mantra of the religion of global warming. One last thought: There is no worse scientific theory than that that cannot be held to scientific scrutiny. It is getting colder, therefore it proves there is global warming. It is getting warmer, therefore there is global warming. That is why global warming is a religion; regardless of data, it exists therefore whatever happens proves that it is. I'll leave my blind faith in just one person, that being God. Not proven liars with an exposed leftist agenda.

 

[deejeff442]

finally got my water going.the pipe between the well and pressure tank burst.so i put new piping in .i bought a new heat wire and the thing dont work.so i had to go get another one.still the other pipes were frozen.so i pointed the turbo heater at different sections for 4 hours and finally got it going.what a crock.of course lowes is 15 miles away and had to drive 25 mph on the ice.time for a few beers and bed.i put new heat wire on the pipes and bought insulation to go over that and electric taped the hell out of it.then put bath towels over that .i sure cant wait for the 100 degree days to come.

 

[stdreb27]

lol after all the cooked data, and manipulated graphs, photoshopped polar bears and stuff you still try to show summer and winter ice cap shots and say global warming?
Hey look after 2 seconds of searching google I found counter information.

 

[aquaknight]

The death of Earth will have little to do directly with human made CO2. Overpopulation is by far the biggest hurdle this planet will face. 2 countries with populations in the billions are gonna start wondering why they can't live in 2000sq. ft. houses, and have 2 cars (even the most green battery-powered crapbox) as well. At which point, will effectively make anything the current industrialized nations have done, as horribly insignificant.
Upper 60's here on the Gulf Coast, but some nasty storms. Truck was sliding all over the highway.

 

[fishhugger]

I cant complain too much about the weather today...just freezing rain...but at least we're used to it and are prepared
I will, however, complain about slipping on ice and jamming a mountain dew bottle up my noise....and pushing shopping carts in for 3 hours at -10 last week because everyone wanted to get their shopping done before it snowed, and everyone else who pushes carts in during the day called in.