The war on terror?

dogstar

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Originally Posted by Phixer
:hilarious
I used Wikpedia, Zionism = " The ideology that supports a homeland for the Jewish people in the Land of Israel, where the Jewish nation originated over 3,200 years ago and where Jewish kingdoms and self-governing states existed up to the 2nd century CE. "
Agreed, but ask why a person would support that....
and to what extent one would be willing to go to, to support that......Is it right to throw one group of people off a land to give it to another group ???? From that defenition, the Palestians have been there for 18 centuries....A person can look at this in a way that does not make them anti-semetic....as to where you would hate the Jew no matter were he is...or blame them for all the worlds problems like some movie stars do..haha...But would have compasion for the people who were thrown off the land....
When Isreal was established or re-established or whatever, after WWII was to solve the Jewish Problems in the European contries.....and thus created another one. The Palestinian problem....
Im not saying that they should not be there, the Jews or the Palestinians...Im saying that like many other things done by the UN or powerfull countries, that it was not done right and now its all a mess. And the way its been and being handled by " the powerfull countries " has not helped, only caused alot of death for a lot of people from the begining and still is.......
Many so called Zionist are not Jewish and I wonder why those people dont have a more understanding of most of the " root problem " over there now.....well I do know, and it all has to do with Religon......
I have used the word and understand the meaning well......I just wonder why so many are extreamist Zionist...........If I may call them that.....
 

phixer

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Is it right? really depends on which side your on. Pose the question to yourself. Would it be right for you to evict someone from your house who has unjustly taken it? Yes it would be right. But both sides feel this way, so you have to know who the land belonged to first in order to use that arguement. Which inevetibly leads to an unending debate based on religious beliefs that can never be solved.
It is impossible to convince either side who it rightfully belongs too. The land will belong to whichever force happens to be strong enough to occupy and defend it at that point in time. Historically this has been the case and will continue to be. Does this make it right? not to those evicted. I do not think a peaceful occupation will ever take place and trying to negotiate one is a waste of time.
The land will belong to those strong enough to occupy it. This holds true in any geographic location and has been the case for every location on earth. Victory was achieved by a total conquering of the former inhabitants or surender, eventually one side realizes that it's frivolous to continue resisiting and moves while they still can or gets wiped out completely. Moving on has been the history of the Jewish people and I think they are done with it.
 

akbuuur

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The land will belong to those strong enough to occupy it.
Hence the resistance and there will always be resistance until Palestinians are given their fair share of the land.
 

37g joe

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Originally Posted by akbuuur
Hence the resistance and there will always be resistance until Palestinians are given their fair share of the land.
oh we know what palastinans think thier Idea of the fair share of land is. its all of it they dont want to leave one bit to israel.
 

dogstar

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Originally Posted by akbuuur
do you?
care to explain?
and whats " fair " for eather side and why....
 

phixer

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Originally Posted by akbuuur
Hence the resistance and there will always be resistance until Palestinians are given their fair share of the land.

Whats a fair share? and who decides fair? Impossible IMO because there would still be resistance, it would just come from the other direction again. No one should be ashamed to support people defending their country, thats why I support Israel.
 
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