There such thing as 100% reef safe angel?

coral keeper

coral keeper

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Is there such a thing as a 100% reef safe angel fish that wont nip sps, softies, leathers, lps, clams, inverts, ect and that will be fine in a 28 gallon mixed reef? Or there is no such thing? If there is a 100% reef safe angel fish that will be fine in a 28 gallon mixed reef, please post what kind will be fine.
-Thanks!
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

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Yes, Lammarck or Lammacks (cant spell :/)
eithier way they are very dull,boring and ugly looks like an agel jsut with black/white strips not very awe stricking :/ i would jsut take the chance and get a better looking one
edit* the name is Lamark angel its here on saltwaterfish*
 
brandan

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Any Angel that is part of the Genicanthus Genus
i.e.
Bellus-Genicanthus bellus
Lamarck's-Genicanthus lamarck
Swallontail-Genicanthus melanospilus
Watanabei-Genicanthus watanabei
Zebra-Genicanthus melanospilus
etc.
These fish need ATLEAST 100+gallons as juvi's for swimming. I would suggest 200+ for adults.
From my personal experience, your best bet is a Coral Beauty (Centropyge bispinosus).
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

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Originally Posted by Brandan
http:///forum/post/2790704
Any Angel that is part of the Genicanthus Genus
i.e.
Bellus-Genicanthus bellus
Lamarck's-Genicanthus lamarck
Swallontail-Genicanthus melanospilus
Watanabei-Genicanthus watanabei
Zebra-Genicanthus melanospilus
etc.
These fish need ATLEAST 100+gallons as juvi's for swimming. I would suggest 200+ for adults.
From my personal experience, your best bet is a Coral Beauty (Centropyge bispinosus).
LAMARCKS are dwarves and dont need 200 gallons
 
coral keeper

coral keeper

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Originally Posted by Reef_Dart21
http:///forum/post/2790692
Yes, Lammarck or Lammacks (cant spell :/)
eithier way they are very dull,boring and ugly looks like an agel jsut with black/white strips not very awe stricking :/ i would jsut take the chance and get a better looking one
edit* the name is Lamark angel its here on saltwaterfish*
Lamarck angelfish get up to 9 inches.... IMO they are very pretty, not ugly. Here are a few pictures.


 
brandan

brandan

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Originally Posted by Reef_Dart21
http:///forum/post/2790721
LAMARCKS are dwarves and dont need 200 gallons
9"+ is not a dwarf Angel fish and does deserves to live in something larger than 75gallons of water. I advise you do some legitimate research before posting. For the record it is Genicanthus lamarck; that is the official scientific name. To my knowledge, none of the Genicanthus genus are considered "dwarfs". I am not being rude, I am just keeping other hobbyists from receiving inaccurate information.
Please, no hard feelings, I am not starting a flame war. . .
 
jerryatrick

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As stated in every other thread it is hit or miss. I have had great success with the cherub angel. I currently have one who doesn't touch a thing and I had one who died that never touched anything. I have read that hobbyists have success with the coral beauty.
 
brandan

brandan

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Originally Posted by JerryAtrick
http:///forum/post/2790826
As stated in every other thread it is hit or miss. I have had great success with the cherub angel. I currently have one who doesn't touch a thing and I had one who died that never touched anything. I have read that hobbyists have success with the coral beauty.
I have a Cherub in my 36gal cube, I have had him for quite some time now, the only thing I have seen him do is nip at a clam once, whether or not it was intentional can't be proven. Overall, very nice fish.
 
jerryatrick

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Originally Posted by Brandan
http:///forum/post/2790841
I have a Cherub in my 36gal cube, I have had him for quite some time now, the only thing I have seen him do is nip at a clam once, whether or not it was intentional can't be proven. Overall, very nice fish.
The fish also has cahones and won't back down to any other fish.
 
groupergenius

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Originally Posted by Brandan
http:///forum/post/2790766
9"+ is not a dwarf Angel fish and does deserves to live in something larger than 75gallons of water. I advise you do some legitimate research before posting. For the record it is Genicanthus lamarck; that is the official scientific name. To my knowledge, none of the Genicanthus genus are considered "dwarfs". I am not being rude, I am just keeping other hobbyists from receiving inaccurate information.
Please, no hard feelings, I am not starting a flame war. . .
I agree somewhat with Brandan. Genicanthus' are not considered Dwarfs, BUT they do not get as big as some of the other Angels.
I think most Geni's can do fine in as small as a 75.
Coral Keeper, if your looking for something fairly safe that will be OK in a 29, I fully agree with Jerry Atrick. I have a Cherub in a 15 gallon with zoas, shrooms, whatever and doing fine. They do get a bit nasty when you introduce other fishy tankmates though.
 
mch2o

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I agree with them the last post and that is why I would say to put all your other fish in first and put the angel in last.
Gives the other fish a chance to find homes for the the angel steps in and takes over.
the little she devil lol
 
coral keeper

coral keeper

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What about a Coral Beauty Angelfish? Are they the safest angel? Will a Coral Beauty Angelfish be fine in a 28 gallon HQI nano cube mixed reef?
 
jerryatrick

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Originally Posted by Coral Keeper
http:///forum/post/2790904
What about a Coral Beauty Angelfish? Are they the safest angel? Will a Coral Beauty Angelfish be fine in a 28 gallon HQI nano cube mixed reef?
I think rebelprettyboy had or has a coral beauty in a 29 gallon tank. They get a little bigger than the pygmy angel I think.
 
keebler

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Now here's a question for you. Is it better to introduce corals before or after the introduction of this angel? Should you get all your fish besides the angel, then get your corals and add the fish after or get the fish before corals?
 
coral keeper

coral keeper

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Originally Posted by Keebler
http:///forum/post/2791296
Now here's a question for you. Is it better to introduce corals before or after the introduction of this angel? Should you get all your fish besides the angel, then get your corals and add the fish after or get the fish before corals?
Is the question for me or everyone?
 
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