This Can't Be-California Democratics Banned It

bionicarm

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/160#post_3428899
go back and read my comments and show me where i called you racist?
nice comment at the end....classy. is that a racially charged comment?
the law is no more racially charged than a law against crack cocaine. just because a specific group of people are the primary violators of the law, does not make it a racist law. in fact, up until 30 years ago, the illegal immigrant was primarily white...and and ilegal immigration was against the law then as well. ig wasn't until the demographic changed that people became sensitive to the race of illegal immigration.
darth (i killed custer) Tang
The law targets a specific group of indivudals who are primarily a specific race. Yet you say the law isn't racist. If the law isn't racially charged, then why are the Hispanics moving out of Arizona in droves? Mantis tried to justify the law by using some Scandanavian, French, whatever WHITE person that was pulled over and didn't have her "papers" as a justification the law isn't racially biased. I could move 20 families straight from Poland, get them jobs, and find them residences, and I bet you $10,000 that they could live there for years and no one would know or care. That's because the people of Arizona know who this law is directed towards.
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3428925
The law targets a specific group of indivudals who are primarily a specific race. Yet you say the law isn't racist. If the law isn't racially charged, then why are the Hispanics moving out of Arizona in droves? Mantis tried to justify the law by using some Scandanavian, French, whatever WHITE person that was pulled over and didn't have her "papers" as a justification the law isn't racially biased. I could move 20 families straight from Poland, get them jobs, and find them residences, and I bet you $10,000 that they could live there for years and no one would know or care. That's because the people of Arizona know who this law is directed towards.
Illegal alien hispanics are leaving.
 
mantisman51

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Yeah, sure, any white person caught without proper ID will be left alone and any Hispanic, regardless of citizenship will be hassled. Bingo, Reef. There has been a mass exodus of illegals-not "Hispanics". But in a certain extreme leftists mind there is no difference.
 
reefraff

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I am just wondering what we are supposed to do, Ignore the fact they are in this country with no legal or moral right to be here because they are a "minority" race?
 
darthtang aw

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The law targets a specific group of indivudals who are primarily a specific race.  Yet you say the law isn't racist.  If the law isn't racially charged, then why are the Hispanics moving out of Arizona in droves?  Mantis tried to justify the law by using some Scandanavian, French, whatever WHITE person that was pulled over and didn't have her "papers" as a justification the law isn't racially biased.  I could move 20 families straight from Poland, get them jobs, and find them residences, and I bet you $10,000 that they could live there for years and no one would know or care.  That's because the people of Arizona know who this law is directed towards. 
are they rounding up and shipping out us citizen hispanics? if not...then it is not racist. the most you can accuse it of being is nationalist. have the dealt with illegal non hispanics as well?
In 2009 the dept. of homeland security stated over 52000 illegal immigrants were caught not of mexican decent. the greater majority of them came through mexico into arizona and california. this alone shows no bias.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3428930
Yeah, sure, any white person caught without proper ID will be left alone and any Hispanic, regardless of citizenship will be hassled. Bingo, Reef. There has been a mass exodus of illegals-not "Hispanics". But in a certain extreme leftists mind there is no difference.
The illegals leaving ARE Hispanics. That's the point you seem to be missing. How many "illegals" come to the US from Canada and live here with no one bothering them? You don't see Michigan, Ohio, or any of the other states that border Canada enacting laws to force them back to Canada. The people in Michigan and Ohio are even upset with the influx of Hispanics that have moved to those areas.
 
darthtang aw

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The illegals leaving ARE Hispanics.  That's the point you seem to be missing.  How many "illegals" come to the US from Canada and live here with no one bothering them?  You don't see Michigan, Ohio, or any of the other states that border Canada enacting laws to force them back to Canada.  The people in Michigan and Ohio are even upset with the influx of Hispanics that have moved to those areas.
because since 9/11 canada has tightened their own security. it is harder to getin through canada. I lived in Minnesota around and just after 9/11.......canada border security is a lot rougher now. one ufc fighter had to pay to cross their border because he didnt pass their background check and he had a fight occurring there. . canadians aren't trying to slip into the U.S. as they enjoy many of the same things we do. and immigrants coming through canada have to land by boat...easier to patrol. Canada's government also isnt nearly as corrupt as Mexico's. Thus the Canadian border isn't near the problem our southern Border is at this time.
darth (2001 your argument held water) Tang
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3429013
The illegals leaving ARE Hispanics. That's the point you seem to be missing. How many "illegals" come to the US from Canada and live here with no one bothering them? You don't see Michigan, Ohio, or any of the other states that border Canada enacting laws to force them back to Canada. The people in Michigan and Ohio are even upset with the influx of Hispanics that have moved to those areas.
You have no point. If 80% of illegals were French Canadians then we'd notice a lack of fat men in speedos at the beach. Fact is less than 5% of illegals are Canadian (Canada and Europe account for 6% 2006 figures) While 81% are from Mexico and South America and overwhelmingly Hispanic.
I guess if the majority of people who steal cars happened to be Hispanic you'd consider auto theft laws racist.
 
darthtang aw

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You have no point. If 80% of illegals were French Canadians then we'd notice a lack of fat men in speedos at the beach. Fact is less than 5% of illegals are Canadian (Canada and Europe account for 6% 2006 figures) While 81% are from Mexico and South America and overwhelmingly Hispanic.
 
I guess if the majority of people who steal cars happened to be Hispanic you'd consider auto theft laws racist.
 
the law is only racist if the criminals are leaving the state.
darth (common sense) tang
 
stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3428964
are they rounding up and shipping out us citizen hispanics? if not...then it is not racist. the most you can accuse it of being is nationalist. have the dealt with illegal non hispanics as well?
In 2009 the dept. of homeland security stated over 52000 illegal immigrants were caught not of mexican decent. the greater majority of them came through mexico into arizona and california. this alone shows no bias.
I'm Hispanic and I haven't been hassled...
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3429013
The illegals leaving ARE Hispanics. That's the point you seem to be missing. How many "illegals" come to the US from Canada and live here with no one bothering them? You don't see Michigan, Ohio, or any of the other states that border Canada enacting laws to force them back to Canada. The people in Michigan and Ohio are even upset with the influx of Hispanics that have moved to those areas.
I personally several Canadians who're having immigration issues...
 
reefraff

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I knew a guy in Montana who was a Canadian and having a hard time getting citizenship but he was keeping up with the conditions for his visa. He was even married to an American woman but it was faster in the long run to continue with his naturalization process than to start over and claiming it on the basis of his spouse.
 
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nice you see it that way but most dont. it seems as though every few months our ambassador to the states is correcting a senator or governor on the fact that none of the 9/11 hijackers entered the states through here.
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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW http:///t/388457/this-cant-be-california-democratics-banned-it/180#post_3429020
because since 9/11 canada has tightened their own security. it is harder to getin through canada. I lived in Minnesota around and just after 9/11.......canada border security is a lot rougher now. one ufc fighter had to pay to cross their border because he didnt pass their background check and he had a fight occurring there. . canadians aren't trying to slip into the U.S. as they enjoy many of the same things we do. and immigrants coming through canada have to land by boat...easier to patrol. Canada's government also isnt nearly as corrupt as Mexico's. Thus the Canadian border isn't near the problem our southern Border is at this time.
darth (2001 your argument held water) Tang
 
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nihoa

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those days are gone. they really built up the border in that town and it was big news here for awhile cus, if you can believe it, a canadian woman had a house on the american side of town where she had been living forever. there was also a golf course straddling the border so folk were crossing back and forth as they moved between holes. not sure whatever happened on either issue.
 
mantisman51

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The library is still cut in half-half on each side of the border. On "How The States Got Their Shapes" the librarian said many people have tried to sneak across through there and every one has been caught.
 
bionicarm

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Must have been practicing to start using his Concealed Carry license....
SAN ANTONIO -- A man has died after he was shot at a Far West Side shooting range Tuesday afternoon.
Emergency crews were called to the Bullet Hole Shooting Range in the 2700 block of Grosenbacher Road around 2:00 p.m. Tuesday. Witnesses said the man was firing a gun in the handgun area of the outdoor shooting range when they saw him collapse. Investigators said the 31-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound to the head. They are not sure if the gunshot was self-inflicted, accidental, or the result of foul play.
The man died at the scene. His name has not been released.
 
bionicarm

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Actually, they're saying the gun accidentally went off after reload, and it ricocheted off a rock wall he was standing near.
 
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