Trace elements?

pagano24

Member
I know you have to add calcium,iodine, and many other chemicals. But what is trace elements? Why do you add them to your tank?
 
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shrimpy brains

Guest
Don't add annything to your tank unless you test first and it is low! Most elements can be replaced by simple water changes!
 

carlos413

Member
Originally Posted by Shrimpy Brains
http:///forum/post/3255857
Don't add annything to your tank unless you test first and it is low! Most elements can be replaced by simple water changes!
Don't forget a good quality salt. I like Kent my self , but that's just me.
 

king_neptune

Active Member
Originally Posted by Shrimpy Brains
http:///forum/post/3255857
Don't add annything to your tank unless you test first and it is low! Most elements can be replaced by simple water changes!
+1
replenishing your saltwater means your adding fresh salt, which is loaded withthe minerals and nutrients that corals like.
The vast vast majority of mineral needs are met this way.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by King_Neptune
http:///forum/post/3255907
+1
replenishing your saltwater means your adding fresh salt, which is loaded withthe minerals and nutrients that corals like.
The vast vast majority of mineral needs are met this way.

Yep water changes …Get REEF crystals or a salt that is used for a reef. Regular sea salt mix is for fish only systems…I found out the hard way.
 

mrdc

Active Member
Is the Red Sea Magnesium test any good? I need to start testing my magnesium.
 

nikesb

Active Member
the red sea test kit is pure crap imo. i use salifert and its probably the only one i would use for mg. the lfs is using tropic marin for mg and his was way off compared to mine
 

mrdc

Active Member
Thanks. I was pretty sure that I saw bad talk here about Red Sea test kits. I will go with the salifert for strontium and magnesium. Is the salifert magnesium test kit easy to do? The seachem test kit required a lot of steps and I never could seem to get it right.
 

stanlalee

Active Member
when it comes to trace elements I believe either dont do it at all or do it as trial and error. the problem with dont do it unless you test for it is a) there are no test kits for 90% of it b) you have no idea if its high or low to begin with from the original salt mix c) you have no idea of how rapidly, slowly or not at all its depleted and most importantly you nor science knows the role of any but a handful of trace elements so knowing wether they are above or below sea level doesn't answer wether they are useful or not. therefore many conclusion are simply going to be anecdotal.
If you are dont use any thats fine. If you try a broad spectrum trace element product like say seachem reef plus ect and you notice improvements you arent likely to hurt anything at recommended doses. if you see no improvements well you wasted $5-10, big deal if you've ever accompanied strippers you've wasted more. you also will never know what exactly is responsible for improvements if there are any but who cares. All these people using ZEOVIT and other high profile supplements have no idea what they do or even whats in them. nobody tells them dont use.
 

mrdc

Active Member
Some more questions which I think I know the answers but here it goes. I know you shouldn't dose anything that you don't test for and a good salt mix will usually cover most of your elements if you are a frequent water changer. Now what about those that don't do frequent water changes. I have ever only dosed CA, ALK, mag, and strontium. I quit dosing the mag and stro since I was not testing the stro and I ran out of mag tests. Now I am buying another mag test but the stro test is expensive for only 25 tests. So I guess my options on stro are either to not dose (if I am not going to test) and do more water changes or dose it and take chance of not overdosing if I don’t test for it. I know the answer!! So let me ask this. If I buy the test, how often should I test in order to not use up the test kit up so quickly? I was thinking I should test first to see where my current level is at. If it’s low, gradually dose and maybe test once a week until a reach a normal level. Once it is level, test maybe once every two weeks? If it’s high, just continue with the alk and ca and eventually the stro will come down?
 

pagano24

Member
thanks for the answers, sounds like im not gonna be adding trace to my tank. cause the water i get is great, corals all do fine.I was giving a free bottle thats why i ask, but why should i add something to a system thats already working.
 

stanlalee

Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3256453
If I buy the test, how often should I test in order to not use up the test kit up so quickly? I was thinking I should test first to see where my current level is at. If it’s low, gradually dose and maybe test once a week until a reach a normal level. Once it is level, test maybe once every two weeks? If it’s high, just continue with the alk and ca and eventually the stro will come down?
start weekly and adjust from there. if there is little to no change without dosing after a week (dont dose at first) move to 2 weeks and so forth. Very few people find it neccessary to test or dose strontium
 

selectaquarium

New Member
A lot of times, trace elements can also be reduced by protein skimmers and coral consumption in between water changes...I like to add magnesium and reef metal to my tanks (correct dosage of course), in between water changes. We actually carry two great versions of those products. Even if you don't get them from us, I still think it is a good idea to add trace elements in between salt and water additions. I know there is a lot of dissension about adding vs. not adding, but elements like magnesium and iodine have proven more and more important.
http://www.selectaquariumsupply.com/...eef/Categories
 
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