rickross23
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anyone have or had the tunze DOC 9011 skimmer? im thinking of one for my 120g...i might get the one up to 290 gallons. how are the skimmers? please share.
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rickross23
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Good cause it got 4/5 stars and like 5 prepay said the skimmer I was looking at stops working after like 1 year....anyone had the red sea c skim 1800?
flower
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468781
Good cause it got 4/5 stars and like 5 prepay said the skimmer I was looking at stops working after like 1 year....anyone had the red sea c skim 1800?
My Octopus is an awesome skimmer...pulls yuck like no other I ever had...I also replaced the pump on it already (a little over a year). Most of us with a sump have no filters on the overflow hose/pipe. The junk from the tank eventually clogs the pump. (on mine anyway)
I started putting a ladies nylon that I cut down and tie off the end to use as a filter. The hope is to prevent the pump from clogging...the return pump as well could be in jeopardy. A filter is a pain in the butt, but not as bad as pump replacement.
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468781
Good cause it got 4/5 stars and like 5 prepay said the skimmer I was looking at stops working after like 1 year....anyone had the red sea c skim 1800?
My Octopus is an awesome skimmer...pulls yuck like no other I ever had...I also replaced the pump on it already (a little over a year). Most of us with a sump have no filters on the overflow hose/pipe. The junk from the tank eventually clogs the pump. (on mine anyway)
I started putting a ladies nylon that I cut down and tie off the end to use as a filter. The hope is to prevent the pump from clogging...the return pump as well could be in jeopardy. A filter is a pain in the butt, but not as bad as pump replacement.
rickross23
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I'm leaning towards the red Sea C skim 1800.
flower
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468791
I'm leaning towards the red Sea C skim 1800.
Wow...I have never heard anything good about anything made by Red Sea....not even their test kits are any good.
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468791
I'm leaning towards the red Sea C skim 1800.
Wow...I have never heard anything good about anything made by Red Sea....not even their test kits are any good.
rickross23
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The skimmer has great reviews....
flower
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468803
The skimmer has great reviews....
I don't know, like I said, I never heard anything hood about Red Sea. Have you looked into the Octopus brand at all? I love mine.
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468803
The skimmer has great reviews....
rickross23
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Yep...looked at every one I think...the external are $620!
flower
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468823
Yep...looked at every one I think...the external are $620!
Wow, I had no idea they were that expensive as external. Mine is in-sump and I paid $380.00 something for it. It really skims good and the cup is easy to attach and remove. Made heavy duty.
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468823
Yep...looked at every one I think...the external are $620!
Wow, I had no idea they were that expensive as external. Mine is in-sump and I paid $380.00 something for it. It really skims good and the cup is easy to attach and remove. Made heavy duty.
rickross23
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There's a RO space saver for tanks up to 160gallons that would be a tight yet perfect fit in my sump(that's what she said haha)...could I use this skimmer or do I need bigger? It's either Tunze 9011, Red Sea C skim, or maybe a reef Octopus...I hear the reef Octopus is noisy the one I'm lookin at.
2quills
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Just get what you can afford, man. The RO would be my choice out of any of the 3 you mentioned here. The bubble plaster pumps are some of the best out there right now. And the cone shape design is the more efficient than that of the other two at getting bubble to rise up to the cup while putting the least amount of back pressure on the pump. Noise can be associated with just about every single skimmer pump on the market, and most all of them settle/quiet down after they break in.
rickross23
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I am gonna go to my lfs tomorrow...I think I will get the Tunze 9011 skimmer. Can you guys give me your opinion on this? Also, if I put a piece of chaeto in my return pump section, would the algae be sucked in? I want to do this to have more space for a skimmer. Please help. Thanks
2quills
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468852
I am gonna go to my lfs tomorrow...I think I will get the Tunze 9011 skimmer. Can you guys give me your opinion on this? Also, if I put a piece of chaeto in my return pump section, would the algae be sucked in? I want to do this to have more space for a skimmer. Please help. Thanks
If you follow any of the threads in the Tunze forum there were a number of folks that weren't happy with the changes made when they came out with the 9011 which was supposed to be an upgrade from the 9010. I think they made some modifications to the skimmer to correct some of the issues but I'd be a little leary unless you can verify when the ones were made that your lfs has in their stock. Cheato in the return area might be asking for trouble. It can get sucked into the pump, yes. But if it's important to you and you want to do it make sure you run a good strainer on the intake side of the pump and possibly make some type of plastic cage around the pump itself for redundancy.
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468852
I am gonna go to my lfs tomorrow...I think I will get the Tunze 9011 skimmer. Can you guys give me your opinion on this? Also, if I put a piece of chaeto in my return pump section, would the algae be sucked in? I want to do this to have more space for a skimmer. Please help. Thanks
If you follow any of the threads in the Tunze forum there were a number of folks that weren't happy with the changes made when they came out with the 9011 which was supposed to be an upgrade from the 9010. I think they made some modifications to the skimmer to correct some of the issues but I'd be a little leary unless you can verify when the ones were made that your lfs has in their stock. Cheato in the return area might be asking for trouble. It can get sucked into the pump, yes. But if it's important to you and you want to do it make sure you run a good strainer on the intake side of the pump and possibly make some type of plastic cage around the pump itself for redundancy.
rickross23
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Would you get Tunze or go external? Why?
acrylic51
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Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468866
Would you get Tunze or go external? Why?
External.....or the RO sss skimmer.....The ones you mentioned IMHO would be out classed by the RO......
I would vote external for the mere fact if you can't fit it in the sump, you'd still get a quality skimmer, with a little more capacity than an in sump unit, and you don't have to be as finicky with your sump water height. 1 thing you should keep in mind with internal skimmers as mentioned a bit by Corey, back pressure on the pumps.....If you sit a skimmer to deep in water you put unnecessary back pressure on the pump and then it will not operate correctly and efficiently......Having to put the skimmer on a stand in the sump also creates possible issues with clearance getting the skimmer cup off for maintenance. This is the issue I faced and why I chose to go the external route.
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468840
Just get what you can afford, man. The RO would be my choice out of any of the 3 you mentioned here. The bubble plaster pumps are some of the best out there right now. And the cone shape design is the more efficient than that of the other two at getting bubble to rise up to the cup while putting the least amount of back pressure on the pump. Noise can be associated with just about every single skimmer pump on the market, and most all of them settle/quiet down after they break in.
Agree.....
Originally Posted by rickross23 http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468866
Would you get Tunze or go external? Why?
External.....or the RO sss skimmer.....The ones you mentioned IMHO would be out classed by the RO......
I would vote external for the mere fact if you can't fit it in the sump, you'd still get a quality skimmer, with a little more capacity than an in sump unit, and you don't have to be as finicky with your sump water height. 1 thing you should keep in mind with internal skimmers as mentioned a bit by Corey, back pressure on the pumps.....If you sit a skimmer to deep in water you put unnecessary back pressure on the pump and then it will not operate correctly and efficiently......Having to put the skimmer on a stand in the sump also creates possible issues with clearance getting the skimmer cup off for maintenance. This is the issue I faced and why I chose to go the external route.
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/391258/tunze-skimmers#post_3468840
Just get what you can afford, man. The RO would be my choice out of any of the 3 you mentioned here. The bubble plaster pumps are some of the best out there right now. And the cone shape design is the more efficient than that of the other two at getting bubble to rise up to the cup while putting the least amount of back pressure on the pump. Noise can be associated with just about every single skimmer pump on the market, and most all of them settle/quiet down after they break in.
Agree.....
rickross23
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Do i have to buy a pump for externals? What external do you recommend under $550?
acrylic51
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Yes an external would require an additional pump (feed pump) to feed the skimmer consistently.....If your lucky and have the room you could try to gravity feed the skimmer without the use of an additional pump, but results could be different than using a dedicated pump.
I'm still trying to decide which feed pump I'm going to use for my skimmer. Mike from ReefSpecialty recommended a pump around 700gph, but the manual states 600gph, but I'm going with Mike's recommendations on feed rate.....worse case I'll have to dial it back a tad......As far as a good external sized skimmer....
XP 2000 external new $619.00 ReefSpecialty
*************** the same $619.00
Here's another option.....Cone skimmers are a little more expensive and still a good/quality skimmer, still utilizing the Bubbleblaster pump as well.....
This is the Super Reef Octopus 2000 external......it runs $534.95 at ReefSpecialty.......
Have you looked at the Diablo skimmers.......Another excellent fit for your system and with a foot print of 8.3" x 8.3" should be able to get the skimmer in the sump. What is your clearance as far as height inside the stand........ $295.00 at **************.....
Reef Octopus® Diablo 6? In Sump Skimmer with Bubble Plate
Footprint: 8.3" x 8.3"
Height: 22"
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Diameter: 6.3"
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Rated up to 160gal.
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Optimal Sump Depth: 8-9.5"
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Modified cone neck design designed for easy transition of micro bubbles into cup
Powered by Italian made Sicce PSK-600 pump
Gate valves on the output for easier tuning of skimmer water level inside the chamber
2 year warranty on pump
I'm still trying to decide which feed pump I'm going to use for my skimmer. Mike from ReefSpecialty recommended a pump around 700gph, but the manual states 600gph, but I'm going with Mike's recommendations on feed rate.....worse case I'll have to dial it back a tad......As far as a good external sized skimmer....
XP 2000 external new $619.00 ReefSpecialty
*************** the same $619.00
Here's another option.....Cone skimmers are a little more expensive and still a good/quality skimmer, still utilizing the Bubbleblaster pump as well.....
This is the Super Reef Octopus 2000 external......it runs $534.95 at ReefSpecialty.......
Have you looked at the Diablo skimmers.......Another excellent fit for your system and with a foot print of 8.3" x 8.3" should be able to get the skimmer in the sump. What is your clearance as far as height inside the stand........ $295.00 at **************.....
Item #: Diablo XS160
Reef Octopus® Diablo 6? In Sump Skimmer with Bubble Plate
Footprint: 8.3" x 8.3"
Height: 22"
[*]
Diameter: 6.3"
[*]
Rated up to 160gal.
[*]
Optimal Sump Depth: 8-9.5"
[*]
Modified cone neck design designed for easy transition of micro bubbles into cup
Powered by Italian made Sicce PSK-600 pump
Gate valves on the output for easier tuning of skimmer water level inside the chamber
2 year warranty on pump
rickross23
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Diablo won't work...stand is 24" high and my sump opening is 8" x 9" so I'm barely missin out. Another reason maybe for the tunze DOC 9011..... What do you think?