typhoon 3 rodi question
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monsinour
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cold water takes longer to make and hot water will probably damage the membrane. Can you not connect it to a cold water supply? I have read that if you take the intake line and place it in a bucket of warm water to warm it up before it hits the filters that will help speed things up. Example:
say you piecred your cold water line in your basement. you then take the tubing and stick it into a 5 gallon bucket with really warm to hot water. As the cold water goes through the tubing it will be warmed up in the bucket and then pass into the filters and pop out the other end. Melevreef's site has this hint and installation stuff about ro/di filters.
say you piecred your cold water line in your basement. you then take the tubing and stick it into a 5 gallon bucket with really warm to hot water. As the cold water goes through the tubing it will be warmed up in the bucket and then pass into the filters and pop out the other end. Melevreef's site has this hint and installation stuff about ro/di filters.
scsinet
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AFAIK, RODI systems work most efficiently on warm water, but hot water can cause damage to the membranes.
I'd run it off cold. It may not produce as fast, but a properly set up system really isn't running "on demand" anyway, the product water is being stored so it can be used when needed.
I'm curious as to where in a home would one find hot water without cold water nearby... ???
I'd run it off cold. It may not produce as fast, but a properly set up system really isn't running "on demand" anyway, the product water is being stored so it can be used when needed.
I'm curious as to where in a home would one find hot water without cold water nearby... ???
sparty059
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Originally Posted by SCSInet http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324692
AFAIK, RODI systems work most efficiently on warm water, but hot water can cause damage to the membranes.
I'd run it off cold. It may not produce as fast, but a properly set up system really isn't running "on demand" anyway, the product water is being stored so it can be used when needed.
I'm curious as to where in a home would one find hot water without cold water nearby... ???
Ah, I was waiting for that question. It's in my basement so I have the water running directly from the cold and hot. The hot faucet is the only one that seem to work with the adapter I bought... the "Cold & Warm" water faucet has a small chunk of super glue on it that won't come off... thus making it impossible to put the adapter on. The cold faucet knob refuses to turn... so that led me to use just the hot water instead
. Maybe I'll run to the gym tonight bench a few pounds and build up my muscles... then try to turn the faucet again
Originally Posted by SCSInet http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324692
AFAIK, RODI systems work most efficiently on warm water, but hot water can cause damage to the membranes.
I'd run it off cold. It may not produce as fast, but a properly set up system really isn't running "on demand" anyway, the product water is being stored so it can be used when needed.
I'm curious as to where in a home would one find hot water without cold water nearby... ???
Ah, I was waiting for that question. It's in my basement so I have the water running directly from the cold and hot. The hot faucet is the only one that seem to work with the adapter I bought... the "Cold & Warm" water faucet has a small chunk of super glue on it that won't come off... thus making it impossible to put the adapter on. The cold faucet knob refuses to turn... so that led me to use just the hot water instead
slice
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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324698
. Maybe I'll run to the gym tonight bench a few pounds and build up my muscles... then try to turn the faucet again
Nah, just put on some ankle weights, grab some dumbells and run over to home depot and get a replacement faucet.
And while you're there, get some GFCI outlets...
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324698
. Maybe I'll run to the gym tonight bench a few pounds and build up my muscles... then try to turn the faucet again
Nah, just put on some ankle weights, grab some dumbells and run over to home depot and get a replacement faucet.
And while you're there, get some GFCI outlets...
monsinour
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Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324702
Nah, just put on some ankle weights, grab some dumbells and run over to home depot and get a replacement faucet.
And while you're there, get some GFCI outlets...
I would have suggested a bigger wrench to turn the faucet. But yea, if there are no GFCI outlets on the tank, time to get some and put them in.
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324702
Nah, just put on some ankle weights, grab some dumbells and run over to home depot and get a replacement faucet.
And while you're there, get some GFCI outlets...
I would have suggested a bigger wrench to turn the faucet. But yea, if there are no GFCI outlets on the tank, time to get some and put them in.
slice
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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324710
I would have suggested a bigger wrench to turn the faucet. But yea, if there are no GFCI outlets on the tank, time to get some and put them in.
My house has taught me more about plumbing than I ever wanted to know. When I find an uncooperative faucet, trying to muscle it into submission only disturbs a fitting somewhere upstream.
I usually end up replacing the faucet anyway.
I've been badgering about GFCI outlets for weeks now...
Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3324710
I would have suggested a bigger wrench to turn the faucet. But yea, if there are no GFCI outlets on the tank, time to get some and put them in.
My house has taught me more about plumbing than I ever wanted to know. When I find an uncooperative faucet, trying to muscle it into submission only disturbs a fitting somewhere upstream.
I usually end up replacing the faucet anyway.
I've been badgering about GFCI outlets for weeks now...
2quills
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Odds are if you force it too much you're just going to break the handle off the valve. If it were me I would go ahead and replace the valve or the faucet in question. If you want then snap me a couple pictures of the hot and cold water valves as well as the adapter you want to use. I'll tell you what you'd need to replace them. It's cheap and easy to do (most of the time). Didn't I hear you mention selling that house in the future anyway? It would be worth it just to throw some new valves on there...or faucet, whichever the case may be. It sounds like you just have valves though. In the mean time, spray it down with some lithium grease and let it set and soak in for a good half hour to an hour and then try turning it again.
tlsohio
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I'm gonna through a wrench in things. Have you tried to tap your cold water line with a icemaker tap? This is very easy to do and not very expensive. You can buy an icemaker kit for about $6., it will contain the tap, tubing and some fittings that you probably won't need but come with the kit. I have been running RO units on cold water for over 20 years and this is the better choice of the two and hot water will ruin your membrane. It probably would be a good idea to replace your nozzles any way, lol!
By the way, I have the Typhoon III and it's a great unit!
sparty059
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I meant to update everyone but was too excited to think about doing so. I removed the unit from the hot and moved it to the cold. I took a deep breath and turned the knob as hard as a could to find that it turned with just a gentle turn of the knob. So that leads me to believe one of the two following: #1 - I losened it up yesterday
. #2 - I was turning the knob the wrong way yesterday
. Either of which I managed to get it to work tonight and have approx 15 of the 38 gallon trash bin full. I opted for a rubbermaid trash can because it cost me $10 and the Brute was going to cost around $40 for a 35 gallon and to be quite frank... the rubbermaid said it would last a lifetime, so I'll put my faith in its words. Anyway... once I get the bin full I'll transfer about 10 gallons worth mix some salt for 24-48 hours while heating the water up and then do a small water change in the system. I know I'm due for a water change anyway.
As always, thank you everyone for all of your help. And most of all thank you for the immediate responses resulting to me turning off the hot water before I had fried my membrane.
As always, thank you everyone for all of your help. And most of all thank you for the immediate responses resulting to me turning off the hot water before I had fried my membrane.
bang guy
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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325027
What could happen though? If it's enclosed then how would liquid seep? Or are you implying that the plastic isn't THAT strong and will eventually break? It felt fairly strong... who knows... maybe in the future I'll get a brute and use this one as a mixer type can.
Plastic fatigue will cause cracks if the container isn't designed to hold something as dense as water.
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325027
What could happen though? If it's enclosed then how would liquid seep? Or are you implying that the plastic isn't THAT strong and will eventually break? It felt fairly strong... who knows... maybe in the future I'll get a brute and use this one as a mixer type can.
Plastic fatigue will cause cracks if the container isn't designed to hold something as dense as water.
2quills
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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325036
Hm... good thing I have it right next to the drain on my floor! Does it typically take a few months to break down though? Or will this be something that could happen in a matter or days/weeks?
Think of it along the lines of a commet strike...something large enough to devistate most life on this planet. It could happen next week, next month, next year...there's really no way to know for sure. Sooner or later though it will happen. My guess would be when you least expect it. Who knows...maybe it won't. But I've heard of it happening a few times with the cheaper rubbermaids. They just aren't really built for that kind of thing. I think they do make some heavy dutier ones that are a little bit cheaper than the brutes. But so far I've never heard of a brute can failing.
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325036
Hm... good thing I have it right next to the drain on my floor! Does it typically take a few months to break down though? Or will this be something that could happen in a matter or days/weeks?
Think of it along the lines of a commet strike...something large enough to devistate most life on this planet. It could happen next week, next month, next year...there's really no way to know for sure. Sooner or later though it will happen. My guess would be when you least expect it. Who knows...maybe it won't. But I've heard of it happening a few times with the cheaper rubbermaids. They just aren't really built for that kind of thing. I think they do make some heavy dutier ones that are a little bit cheaper than the brutes. But so far I've never heard of a brute can failing.
bang guy
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Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325036
Hm... good thing I have it right next to the drain on my floor! Does it typically take a few months to break down though? Or will this be something that could happen in a matter or days/weeks?
In my experience it takes more than a year but it doesn't just leak, it's a catastrophic failure. YMMV.
Originally Posted by Sparty059 http:///forum/thread/381585/typhoon-3-rodi-question#post_3325036
Hm... good thing I have it right next to the drain on my floor! Does it typically take a few months to break down though? Or will this be something that could happen in a matter or days/weeks?
In my experience it takes more than a year but it doesn't just leak, it's a catastrophic failure. YMMV.