Typing this on my iPad

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by DragonZim
http:///forum/post/3255026
I tend to agree about the fact that Apple keeps complete control over what apps can be published for this...
That is what bugs me about apple, they tout their security, but their security has nothing to do with their programming but their business model. That and no body cares enough to make a decent virus for a mac.
 

yearofthenick

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3255008
http://www.toptechreviews.net/apple/...net-to-an-end/
this is a funny article.
You know I'm a big apple fan and we've had our share of petty fights about their products...
But this is one I completely agree with you on. After having the iPad for a few days, it clear that they are selling this device entirely on their terms, leaving me to the mercy of their decisions. I cannot modify the iPad in any way... But the other side of the coin makes me ask "why would I?" the truth is that although don't have elbow room to make modifications, i don't really need to. It does almost everything I need it to do, and when it doesn't, my laptop fills in the blanks. Its meant to be a mobile device, a satellite version of the "home base." I think it fills that roll well.
 

bionicarm

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Here are some 'cons' for those of you looking to buy the Ipad. Ipad owners can either attest or refute any of these claims if they like:
It's awkward
You can't carry it on your hip like a phone, so it presents the same portability issues as any laptop – you'll need a case of some sort to protect it and carry the power cable. Even around the house, there's no simple way to carry the iPad. It's too thin, heavy, slippery and expensive to put under your arm. Several of our testers were seen carrying it like a dinner tray, as a butler would, to go from the kitchen table to the couch. Portability, shmortability.
It's heavy
To be sure, at 1.5 pounds and with all this functionality, the iPad is an impressive feat of engineering. But it's simply not light enough (a Kindle ebook reader is about 10 ounces) and that heft adds to the awkwardness. Holding the iPad in one hand for more than a few minutes to watch a movie or read an ebook results in tired wrists. Even holding it with two hands to read an ebook is tiring. Reading an ebook on a smartphone is ergonomically much more practical.
It's slippery
We might ignore the awkward size and weight, but the iPad is also slippery, and its aluminum back is ever-so-slightly slightly concave. You feel as though it'd slip right out if you try to hold it under your arm. And on the kitchen counter, it slides and twirls as you try to type or swipe the screen (required for navigating). It needs rubber feet, but of course then it won't be near as cool.
The screen has too much glare
The iPad has the same glossy screen as Apple's Macbook Pro laptops and iMac desktops. Unless you're reading in a very dim room, the glare will be noticeable and can be distracting. Outdoors, even in the shade, the glare is really annoying.
Forget reading in the sun
If you thought to take your iPad along for an outing in Central Park or at the beach, forget about it. While bright and contrasty indoors, the iPad's screen looks washed out and is almost impossible to view in bright sunlight. The Kindle's non-glossy e-ink display fares much better outdoors than the iPad's screen.
Fingerprints are annoying
Once you've used the iPad for a few minutes, among the most glaring shortcomings (besides the screen glare) are the fingerprints on the screen. With a smartphone, you can wipe the screen on your shirt or pants. The iPad is too big for that. We're wondering what exactly to clean it with and where we'll keep the cleaning supplies.
It does not multitask
The iPad runs the same operating system as the iPhone, and as a result has all of the iPhone's limitations. The most obvious of these is the inability to multitask — or do multiple things simultaneously. The iPad can't run more than one app at a time (with the exception of a few Apple apps, such as iPod, the iPad's music playing app). While this is may be acceptable in a smartphone, it's a major handicap in a device that Apple expects people to spend hours at a time on. (11 iPhone Tips That Also Work on the iPad )
The browser is limited
The iPad also uses the same limited Safari browser that's found on the iPhone. While much fuss has been made about the iPad's inability to play Flash video, there are other things it can't do as well. For example, Safari on iPad can't be used to create Google Documents, only to view them.
The virtual keyboard stinks
While the virtual keyboard on the iPad is much larger than the iPhone, it's still awkward to type on glass. Even those who've used tiny, cramped netbook keyboards will be disappointed by the lack of real keys and likely reduced to one-finger typing. The iPad can be paired with a physical keyboard, but even this is awkward, because the actions normally done with a mouse or a trackpad on a desktop or laptop have to be done with your finger on the iPad.
There's no USB port
The lack of even one USB port – the universal means of connecting just about everything these days – means you can't connect the device to a printer or other computer peripherals, such as an external hard drive. The iPad can be connected to cameras, but it requires the purchase of a separate accessory from Apple.
 

bionicarm

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iPhone-only apps look horrible
Apple boasts that many of the 150,000 apps already available on the iPhone will also work on the iPad. What the company doesn't tell you is that when enlarged to fit on the iPad's screen, these iPhone apps look horrible, with images and text very pixelated. For this reason, many people will opt to buy apps that are made specifically for the iPad, which tend to be more expensive than their iPhone counterparts.
The price is just too high
$499 is just the beginning, a low-memory model that will fill up too quickly for anyone with a big music library and/or an appetite for video. Toss in ample memory and a 2-year, $280 "we'll replace it even if you drop it" warranty at Best Buy, and you're out $1,000. Given the iPad's weight, awkwardness and slipperiness, we think the warranty is smart.
It doesn't replace anything
The iPad will not replace your smartphone. Unless you can't type, it won't replace your laptop. If you love books, you could argue it’s a great e-book reader, but let's see what your wrists say after a few days. The Kindle is a better e-reader. Frankly, we're not sure what need the iPad fills, other than the desire to be cool by owning a device that is in a class all its own.
 

yearofthenick

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Bionic - in regard to your con's post: someone needs to call the waambulance on those testers, because they're just complaining.
It's the size of a book, but you don't carry books like a dinner tray. So how do you hold books?
Fingerprints aren't even noticeable when the screen is on.
It's slippery. Cmon now you're looking for reasons to complain.
The ipad doesn't support flash because flash is slowly becoming obsolete. Its buggy and tends to crash. Html5 lets you do pretty much the same stuff as flash did in the 90's. Apple is taking a stand in the hopes that we can "evolve" past flash. Personally, I'm not sure it will catch on or not.
The virtual keyboard takes some getting used to, but it's the same size as a normal keyboard (in landscape mode) and you can type on it like you would a normal keyboard. I'm already pretty good at it, and I've only had it two days. I'm typing on it right now.
No USB does suck. But you don't really need it on its particular platform. It does come with other peripherals that let you do USB-type things.
The price is high - I agree with that. I was having a hard time deciding to buy it for that reason alone.
The iPad is a great mobile device. I am hoping it will serve me well as such.
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3255087
You know I'm a big apple fan and we've had our share of petty fights about their products...
But this is one I completely agree with you on. After having the iPad for a few days, it clear that they are selling this device entirely on their terms, leaving me to the mercy of their decisions. I cannot modify the iPad in any way... But the other side of the coin makes me ask "why would I?" the truth is that although don't have elbow room to make modifications, i don't really need to. It does almost everything I need it to do, and when it doesn't, my laptop fills in the blanks. Its meant to be a mobile device, a satellite version of the "home base." I think it fills that roll well.
whatever, you just wanted a toy... I did break down and buy an eyefone. It has some serious holes, but over all a great product. Despite their programming problems...
 

bionicarm

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Don't look at me, I just found the article.
I think the reason they were saying the testers were carrying it like a dinner tray is based on this 'slippery factor' they also described. It sounded like they were concerned it would slip from under their arm, or if they were carrying it with just one hand. I sure wouldn't want to risk dropping a $500 'toy'.
Not sure about fingerprints on the Ipad. I do know that if I don't clean the screen on my IPhone at least once a day, I can notice fingerprints while using apps or texting. Considering this device can only be used by touching it, this hindrance should come as no surprise to anyone who purchases it.
Personally I think it was stupid to not add a USB port. I can see Apple's logic behind it. Put a USB port on the device, and the 'IPad Hacker's' would have ways to download apps, music, and videos onto the Ipad without having to get them from the Apple Store or through ITunes.
Flash is only becoming obsolete in the minds of Mac owners. Adobe has a pretty good stronghold with that product regarding internet apps.
Wish I had a bigger keyboard for my IPhone. My kids still give me 'the look' when I'm 'chicken pecking' text messages on my phone.
So what are these accessories that they sell for the IPad, and what do they cost?
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3255138
Don't look at me, I just found the article.
I think the reason they were saying the testers were carrying it like a dinner tray is based on this 'slippery factor' they also described. It sounded like they were concerned it would slip from under their arm, or if they were carrying it with just one hand. I sure wouldn't want to risk dropping a $500 'toy'.
Not sure about fingerprints on the Ipad. I do know that if I don't clean the screen on my IPhone at least once a day, I can notice fingerprints while using apps or texting. Considering this device can only be used by touching it, this hindrance should come as no surprise to anyone who purchases it.
Personally I think it was stupid to not add a USB port. I can see Apple's logic behind it. Put a USB port on the device, and the 'IPad Hacker's' would have ways to download apps, music, and videos onto the Ipad without having to get them from the Apple Store or through ITunes.
Flash is only becoming obsolete in the minds of Mac owners. Adobe has a pretty good stronghold with that product regarding internet apps.
Wish I had a bigger keyboard for my IPhone. My kids still give me 'the look' when I'm 'chicken pecking' text messages on my phone.
So what are these accessories that they sell for the IPad, and what do they cost?
thank god for hacking via blue tooth...
 

mrdc

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I like the iPad concept but I am not ready to get one. I normally don't buy first gen products and I already have 3 laptops and one netbook so the wife would be pissed if I bought one now. I do have a couple of iPod touches which are pretty cool but I can't stand working with iTunes. I like some of the pros and cons y'all are pointing out. I beleive it will be able to be hacked soon enough just like they did with the iPods.
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3255145
I like the iPad concept but I am not ready to get one. I normally don't buy first gen products and I already have 3 laptops and one netbook so the wife would be pissed if I bought one now. I do have a couple of iPod touches which are pretty cool but I can't stand working with iTunes. I like some of the pros and cons y'all are pointing out. I beleive it will be able to be hacked soon enough just like they did with the iPods.
I don't blame you, I'm not gonna pay to be a beta tester either...
 

mrdc

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3255152
I don't blame you, I'm not gonna pay to be a beta tester either...
I waited for the iPod touch to come out with blu tooth and they finally did which is why I bought one. I love using my blu tooth headphones at the gym. No more wires getting in the way!
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3255158
I waited for the iPod touch to come out with blu tooth and they finally did which is why I bought one. I love using my blu tooth headphones at the gym. No more wires getting in the way!
The new generation ITouch allows bluetooth headphones? Hmm. I bought these Motorola bluetooth headphones for my IPhone, and was disappointed they didn't work with the Ipod music app. My daughter has a new ITouch. Guess I need to see if they work with it.
 

mrdc

Active Member
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/post/3255187
The new generation ITouch allows bluetooth headphones? Hmm. I bought these Motorola bluetooth headphones for my IPhone, and was disappointed they didn't work with the Ipod music app. My daughter has a new ITouch. Guess I need to see if they work with it.
Yep. The bluetooth came out on the latest generation (3rd I think). My daughter has the 2nd gen and it doesn't have bluetooth. I use the Jaybirds bluetooth earbuds.
 

yearofthenick

Active Member
Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3255152
I don't blame you, I'm not gonna pay to be a beta tester either...
In all honesty, we're not really beta testers since its a glorified ipod touch. I can tell you that it has not given me a single lick of trouble, which I can't say for the first iphone I bought. I remember having to go home and activate it on my iTunes, which took about an hour to do, and would hang frequently. Then even after activation, the phone would not connect to att's network until the next day. With the iPad, it's been a flawless experience so far. All the tech built into the ipad got ironed out with the ipod touch and iPhones.
 

mrdc

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What’s funny is when I was in the market not long ago looking for an iPod touch since my Sony player started acting up. Someone suggested that I wait to get the iPad. I told him that I thought it might look funny trying to wear the iPad on my arm while at the gym or outside jogging. Not sure what he was thinking …
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/3255597
In all honesty, we're not really beta testers since its a glorified ipod touch. I can tell you that it has not given me a single lick of trouble, which I can't say for the first iphone I bought. I remember having to go home and activate it on my iTunes, which took about an hour to do, and would hang frequently. Then even after activation, the phone would not connect to att's network until the next day. With the iPad, it's been a flawless experience so far. All the tech built into the ipad got ironed out with the ipod touch and iPhones.
Ever notice the limited production runs of new items? X-boxs, playstations, iPhones, etc. then after a few weeks supply catches up with demand? Yeah, you're a beta tester they make money on... If it works, even better...
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by mrdc
http:///forum/post/3255604
What’s funny is when I was in the market not long ago looking for an iPod touch since my Sony player started acting up. Someone suggested that I wait to get the iPad. I told him that I thought it might look funny trying to wear the iPad on my arm while at the gym or outside jogging. Not sure what he was thinking …
Don't you know it is supposed to go in the front of your pants?
 
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