Uh oh, sliding in the polls.

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2928138
The abandonment of conserative principles between Bush's spending and Obama's spending, is going to make for a VERY interesting economics study over the next 4 years.
Yeah it should, but could you even classify Bush as conservative with the record breaking budget deficits he was running? Either way, it will be interesting to see how it works as I'm not a fan of "stimulus plans" as they are a waste of time and money.

 

[reefraff]

Now the fool (Obama) is talking about letting California dictate mileage standards on new cars. That makes a lot of sense, bail out the big 3 and then dictate they build cars nobody wants to buy.
If I were running a car company I'd just write off California and make my money on the other 49 states. Maybe not being able to buy new cars will wake those people up.

 

[spanko]

Stimulus or Pork Laden Spending??
Useful or wasteful?
Supporters say key provisions of the $825 billion economic stimulus bill will help create jobs and revive the U.S. economy, but critics see some of the spending as wasteful. Here's a sampling of how some of the money would be used:
$44 million for repairs at the Agriculture Department headquarters in Washington.
$200 million to rehabilitate the National Mall.
$360 million for new child care centers at military bases.
$1.8 billion to repair National Park Service facilities.
$276 million to update technology at the State Department.
$500 million for the Transportation Security Administration to install bomb detectors at airports.
$600 million for General Services Administration to replace older vehicles with alternative fuel vehicles.
$2.5 billion to upgrade low-income housing.
$400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.
$426 million to construct facilities at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
$800 million to clean up Superfund sites.
$150 million for the Coast Guard to repair or remove bridges deemed a hazard to navigation.
$6.7 billion to renovate and improve energy efficiency at federal buildings.
$400 million to replace the Social Security Administration's 30-year-old National Computer Center.

 

[1journeyman]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2928393
Yeah it should, but could you even classify Bush as conservative with the record breaking budget deficits he was running? Either way, it will be interesting to see how it works as I'm not a fan of "stimulus plans" as they are a waste of time and money.
Fiscally Conservative? No.
But in many other aspects certainly. From the strict Constructionist judges he appointed, to his belief in National Defense, to his Foreign policy and finally to his ethical positions he was certainly a Conservative.

 

[aquaknight]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/2928400
Now the fool (Obama) is talking about letting California dictate mileage standards on new cars. That makes a lot of sense, bail out the big 3 and then dictate they build cars nobody wants to buy.
If I were running a car company I'd just write off California and make my money on the other 49 states. Maybe not being able to buy new cars will wake those people up.
I bet it's just going to be a tax soon. Just like the gas guzzler tax on higher end cars, just apply across the board, so joe schmo is paying a $1995 guzzler tax too.
The whole concept is completely minding numbing. If consumers want 40mpg cars, LET US BUY THEM. Manufactures will be more then willing to make what consumers want. If they want 9mpg SUVs or 15mpg sports car, LET US BUY THEM, who in the world does the government think they are dictating what cars we drive?!?!

Stick their nose elsewhere...

 

[snakeblitz33]

Could someone, in a single post, post all of the bad, evil and nasty things that Obama has done thus far to upset the public or go back on his campaign promises? I am just curious.

 

[salty blues]

Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2928425
Could someone, in a single post, post all of the bad, evil and nasty things that Obama has done thus far to upset the public or go back on his campaign promises? I am just curious.
IMO the worst thing he has done is get elected.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2928393
Yeah it should, but could you even classify Bush as conservative with the record breaking budget deficits he was running? Either way, it will be interesting to see how it works as I'm not a fan of "stimulus plans" as they are a waste of time and money.
I think this pretty accurately sums up my opinion on the matter.
I'd go a little farther and say he was pretty moderate. Especially considering him signing McCain Feingold campaign finance. And Kennedy's no child left behind act.
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2928411
Fiscally Conservative? No.
But in many other aspects certainly. From the strict Constructionist judges he appointed, to his belief in National Defense, to his Foreign policy and finally to his ethical positions he was certainly a Conservative.

 

[sickboy]

I think that if 9/11 and Iraq had never happened, he would probably have been one of the most popular presidents ever instead of the other way around. Iraq killed him, afghanistan not so much, I think everyone (right or left) realizes how important afghanistan was, but I think the split happens with no WMDs found. I'll say it one more time to be on record, I voted for the guy in '00.
Moderate is probably a good classification.

 

[sickboy]

Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2928425
Could someone, in a single post, post all of the bad, evil and nasty things that Obama has done thus far to upset the public or go back on his campaign promises? I am just curious.
In less than a week? Not much. Everything he has done so far was well telegraphed. People still got mad at some stuff, but oh well.

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2928494
I think that if 9/11 and Iraq had never happened, he would probably have been one of the most popular presidents ever instead of the other way around. Iraq killed him, afghanistan not so much, I think everyone (right or left) realizes how important afghanistan was, but I think the split happens with no WMDs found. I'll say it one more time to be on record, I voted for the guy in '00.
Moderate is probably a good classification.
I don't know, this guy was the "reach across the isle guy" the libs and the media cannonized.
But when someone really did operate that way, he was villified and tarred and feathered. Just goes to show, if you try and please everyone and by "bipartisan" you'll just end up pissing off both sides. One side is going to hate you anyway, because you have an R next to your name. Don't tick off your side too by acting like a liberal.
Bush made the mistake of assuming everyone has the nations best interest at heart...

 

[stdreb27]

Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2928500
In less than a week? Not much. Everything he has done so far was well telegraphed. People still got mad at some stuff, but oh well.
The republican wizards of smart. (like huckabee, and "the beltway boys" and other "republican" talking heads, god save us) were all saying oh he isn't going to do all tihs stuff and tick everyone off. He'll be more middle of the road. I'm not sure what they were thinking.

 

[jerthunter]

83% to 68%. thats a drop of 83-68=15% in three days, making it a drop of 5% a day. So by the end of his first term, (4 * 365) + 1 day for one leap year in there, and minus the three already accounted for..... Thats 1458 days times 5% making a grand total of a drop of 7290%. Take that from the recent 68% and hmmm.. A approval rating of -7222%!!!!! Thats pretty low, even lower then Bush's rating I do believe.