very interesting 9-11 content
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robchuck
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Ahh....nothing like a good conspiracy theory! The producers sure did some nice Flash work, but come on, they expect to convice me that AA 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon? And that Hitler touch was a little much at the beginning. If Flt 77 didn't crash into the Pentagon, then what happened to the plane?? Did the gov't conspire with everyone on AA 77, wisk them off to an island in the South Pacific, and pay them off with a nice sum to never say a word?
That production is disrespectful to those that perished in the building, those who died on Flt 77, and all the friends and families that lost loved ones that day.
That production is disrespectful to those that perished in the building, those who died on Flt 77, and all the friends and families that lost loved ones that day.
sammystingray
Active Member
Very interesting. I don't put anything past the government. Just release the footage if you don't want theories.
The internet is killing government coverups because they don't have any control like they do over the other medias. True or not? who knows, but it is interesting.
The internet is killing government coverups because they don't have any control like they do over the other medias. True or not? who knows, but it is interesting.
fishtanker
Member
gotta love conspiracy theories!
Bunch of garbage if you ask me.
Bunch of garbage if you ask me.
benrock
Member
Originally posted by sammystingray
Very interesting. I don't put anything past the government. Just release the footage if you don't want theories.
I agree, by not releasing tapes you wonder what they are trying to hide. Gosh, they can read your license plates at every stoplight, we are on camera over 100x a day by big brother. Supposedly a plane crashes into the Country's most secure and protected building and there is no good footage that was caught on tape?? :notsure:
robchuck
Active Member
I'd probably believe this Flash presentation if someone could tell me where AA Flt 77 ended up on 9-11 (assuming it didn't crash into the Pentagon according to the "evidence" in the Flash presentation), what island the passengers and crew are all living on, and how much the gov't paid all of them to never talk to friends and family again.
Flt 77 took off from Dulles that morning, passengers on the flight (including Barbara Olsen, wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olsen) made cell phone and Airfone calls to loved ones saying that their plane had been hi-jacked. This is consistent with the stories surrounding AA 11, UAL 175, and UAL 93, which were also hijacked that same morning and crashed into buildings (or with the assumed intent to crash into buildings). And look how many people saw the planes crash into the WTC towers with their own eyes.
When AA 77 hit the Pentagon, that Boeing 757 was going so fast, hit the building so hard (there is plausible speculation that the wings folded against the hull of the aircraft), and was carrying enough fuel to start a fire hot enough to liquify most of the aircraft.
There aren't many air disasters on record where a plane has been intact when it's struck land or an object at 400+ mph; and in those rare instances, there isn't much left of a plane. The pictures of charred airplane hulls in that presentation are of accidents that occured on take-offs or approaches where the aircraft was travelling in the 100-200 mph range and glanced off the ground, as opposed to striking a brick wall at 400+ mph.
Long story short, just tell me the fate of AA Flt. 77 and then I'll bite into the conspiracy theory.
Flt 77 took off from Dulles that morning, passengers on the flight (including Barbara Olsen, wife of US Solicitor General Ted Olsen) made cell phone and Airfone calls to loved ones saying that their plane had been hi-jacked. This is consistent with the stories surrounding AA 11, UAL 175, and UAL 93, which were also hijacked that same morning and crashed into buildings (or with the assumed intent to crash into buildings). And look how many people saw the planes crash into the WTC towers with their own eyes.
When AA 77 hit the Pentagon, that Boeing 757 was going so fast, hit the building so hard (there is plausible speculation that the wings folded against the hull of the aircraft), and was carrying enough fuel to start a fire hot enough to liquify most of the aircraft.
There aren't many air disasters on record where a plane has been intact when it's struck land or an object at 400+ mph; and in those rare instances, there isn't much left of a plane. The pictures of charred airplane hulls in that presentation are of accidents that occured on take-offs or approaches where the aircraft was travelling in the 100-200 mph range and glanced off the ground, as opposed to striking a brick wall at 400+ mph.
Long story short, just tell me the fate of AA Flt. 77 and then I'll bite into the conspiracy theory.
jellyfish
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Those are good questions. Unlimited black bugets can do anything. Here's a good video: www dot inplanesite dot com
check these sites out and let me know what you think
www dot infowars dot com
www dot thepowerhour dot com
Also, check out the Northwoods documents. You can request copies from the gov. through the freedom of information act. I am in the process of doing this.
Also, if Bush had prior knowledge, why didn't he order the planes to be taken down? He was busy reading nursery rhymes to school children during the hit and didn't stop to take care of business. He surely is one of the most informed people, with the highest technology wired up in his limo.
Follow the money trail. Huge profits in prior stock trading or short sells. Chaney is still being paid by Halliburton, he is on the board of directors. Halliburton received 98% of the war contracts. Check out Bohemian Grove video on the links above.
So many questions.
Bush and Kerry both belong to Skull and Bones, also called the Order of Death.
Prescott Bush, GW's grandfather, had his bank funds frozen because they were tied to supporting Hitler's regime. Do a search on Bush and Nazi's. Do a search on Project Paperclip.
They do not care about you or the people who suffered in the Twin Towers. People with great money and great power want to control everything. It is easy to control people during a state of terror. Bush is just a puppet, it's the big bankers who control Bush.
If the president declares a state of emergency, the vote can be cancelled and a state of marshall law enacted. 49% of New Yorkers believe the gov't had prior knowledge.
The technology of the gov't is at least 30 years ahead of what we are allowed to have.
Northwoods documents if you want to know.
All you have to do is go to google.
check these sites out and let me know what you think
www dot infowars dot com
www dot thepowerhour dot com
Also, check out the Northwoods documents. You can request copies from the gov. through the freedom of information act. I am in the process of doing this.
Also, if Bush had prior knowledge, why didn't he order the planes to be taken down? He was busy reading nursery rhymes to school children during the hit and didn't stop to take care of business. He surely is one of the most informed people, with the highest technology wired up in his limo.
Follow the money trail. Huge profits in prior stock trading or short sells. Chaney is still being paid by Halliburton, he is on the board of directors. Halliburton received 98% of the war contracts. Check out Bohemian Grove video on the links above.
So many questions.
Bush and Kerry both belong to Skull and Bones, also called the Order of Death.
Prescott Bush, GW's grandfather, had his bank funds frozen because they were tied to supporting Hitler's regime. Do a search on Bush and Nazi's. Do a search on Project Paperclip.
They do not care about you or the people who suffered in the Twin Towers. People with great money and great power want to control everything. It is easy to control people during a state of terror. Bush is just a puppet, it's the big bankers who control Bush.
If the president declares a state of emergency, the vote can be cancelled and a state of marshall law enacted. 49% of New Yorkers believe the gov't had prior knowledge.
The technology of the gov't is at least 30 years ahead of what we are allowed to have.
Northwoods documents if you want to know.
All you have to do is go to google.
liontamer
Member
I thought it was pretty convincing, except for the fact of the matter: wheres the black box? Black boxs always survive ANY crash, and if there WAS that much fuel on the plane, how come it didnt explod as fiercely as the world trade center? They made some TREMENDOUS explosions. Just thoughts, but that was freaky. Also, if u notice pics of smoke from the world trade center, there are like forms of devils and divine beings in the smoke. It COULD be doctored, but for all u know, it could also be true...
tangman99
Active Member
Interesting, but I have to go with RobChuck on this one. I can almost swear that when it happened, there was footage on one of the news stations where someone caught a home video of the 757 flying a hundred feet or so over Washington. It was definitely nothing you would ever see otherwise. I know I saw it somewhere.
The websites that have all of these government conspiracy theories are so damn far out there, it is not even funny. Does the government keep secrets from us? Of course they do. I mean come on. If they don't keep them from us, how in the heck do they keep them from other countries. I'm all for protecting human rights and privacy, but some of the things that people worry about are just crazy. The majority of the stuff that people worry about the goverment having access to does not concern me a bit. I guess the reason is that I'm a law abiding citizen and just don't have a whole lot to hide. There's not much the government would care to know about me. If they decide to randomly analyze a phone signal that I just happen to be using, I'm sure they will turn my life upside down hearing my wife ask me to stop and pick up some milk for my daughter. I think they would move on to more interesting things.
As Dennis Miller say's, "That's my opinion. I could be wrong."
The websites that have all of these government conspiracy theories are so damn far out there, it is not even funny. Does the government keep secrets from us? Of course they do. I mean come on. If they don't keep them from us, how in the heck do they keep them from other countries. I'm all for protecting human rights and privacy, but some of the things that people worry about are just crazy. The majority of the stuff that people worry about the goverment having access to does not concern me a bit. I guess the reason is that I'm a law abiding citizen and just don't have a whole lot to hide. There's not much the government would care to know about me. If they decide to randomly analyze a phone signal that I just happen to be using, I'm sure they will turn my life upside down hearing my wife ask me to stop and pick up some milk for my daughter. I think they would move on to more interesting things.
As Dennis Miller say's, "That's my opinion. I could be wrong."
myname1960
New Member
Here is an interesting link to photos and such concerning the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
Chris
http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm
Chris
moraym
Active Member
I don't want to get into an argument with the hordes of conspiracy theorists that inhabit SWF, but considering the fact that I work in the northern VA area and have a fraternity brother in DC whose entire office saw the tail of the crash from their media room window, and considering the fact my father works in the Pentagon and was there that day...
I have two good sources whose eyes don't lie.
Now, on with the theory on how they met Will Smith in the parking lot, he used the red dot on them, and they remember nothing...
I have two good sources whose eyes don't lie.
Now, on with the theory on how they met Will Smith in the parking lot, he used the red dot on them, and they remember nothing...
sly
Active Member
Here's an interesting thread talking about it.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...3165~mode=flat
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...3165~mode=flat
dskidmore
Active Member
Ok skeptics, if you're so sure there had to be film, and the black box had to survive, where's the film of the *first* plane to hit the WTC, or the black box of either plane? All three successful hits were against really big buildings, really big fires powered by jet fuel. With the ammount of building missing from the impact, you really think the pieces of craft designed to be light enough to fly is going to be significantly more noticable than the solid building rubble?
sly
Active Member
Take an aluminum can, fill it with a jagillion gallons of high-octane jet fuel. Then crash it at 400 mph into a reinforced concrete wall. Heck, I've seen aluminum cans crumble into powder in a regular campfire.
Next, review the plane that crashes into the second tower. You will see the plane completely disappear into the building followed by a fireball. Note that you do NOT see a hole where the wings entered the building. In fact the building completely swallows the plane and all you see is flames. Remember that the towers were not made out of reinforced concrete. They were much more lightweight. :thinking:
http://www.911uncovered.com/tower2.html
Here's another conspiracy site that even claims that the plane was armed with a giant missile that fired from the plane just before impact. :notsure: It looks to me like the nose of the plane hitting the building and causing an initial fire, not a missile. Have you ever seen an airliner equipped with arsenal?
Anyway, it has some good videos of the plane hitting and being swallowed by this metal building.
Next, review the plane that crashes into the second tower. You will see the plane completely disappear into the building followed by a fireball. Note that you do NOT see a hole where the wings entered the building. In fact the building completely swallows the plane and all you see is flames. Remember that the towers were not made out of reinforced concrete. They were much more lightweight. :thinking:
http://www.911uncovered.com/tower2.html
Here's another conspiracy site that even claims that the plane was armed with a giant missile that fired from the plane just before impact. :notsure: It looks to me like the nose of the plane hitting the building and causing an initial fire, not a missile. Have you ever seen an airliner equipped with arsenal?
Anyway, it has some good videos of the plane hitting and being swallowed by this metal building.
zoe
Member
Aluminum, Magnesium, and Titanium burns very fast and hot. Aluminum powder is used in solid rocket fuel for this reason.
When flight 77 crashed into the pentagon, the planes inertia carried aircraft remains through E and C rings. The outer ring being (E). Cockpit wreckage was found at the base of B ring. The Boeing basically disintegrated upon impact. Leaving only tiny bits and pieces of it.
I do however find it suspicious that the section of the pentagon that was hit was the one that had just recently been reinforced, coupled with the fact that Hani Hanjour was reported to have Terrible /poor piloting skills and how he manuvered that huge plane to fly so low and hit the intended target is amazing to say the least. Since they recovered the black boxes. Why haven't we been able to listen to those? I have no doubt that flight 77 crashed into the pentagon, but why haven't we seen clearer pictures of the plane. You know there were security camera's everywhere but yet all we get to see is a blurry streak and a fireball. I also understand that for national security reasons we can't see any in depth details (photo's, news footage) of the crash afterwards because of all the the secret government papers/documents that were scattered everywhere from the blast.
When flight 77 crashed into the pentagon, the planes inertia carried aircraft remains through E and C rings. The outer ring being (E). Cockpit wreckage was found at the base of B ring. The Boeing basically disintegrated upon impact. Leaving only tiny bits and pieces of it.
I do however find it suspicious that the section of the pentagon that was hit was the one that had just recently been reinforced, coupled with the fact that Hani Hanjour was reported to have Terrible /poor piloting skills and how he manuvered that huge plane to fly so low and hit the intended target is amazing to say the least. Since they recovered the black boxes. Why haven't we been able to listen to those? I have no doubt that flight 77 crashed into the pentagon, but why haven't we seen clearer pictures of the plane. You know there were security camera's everywhere but yet all we get to see is a blurry streak and a fireball. I also understand that for national security reasons we can't see any in depth details (photo's, news footage) of the crash afterwards because of all the the secret government papers/documents that were scattered everywhere from the blast.