Watch Out Suckers
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lovethesea
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Heck for $600 I would take the "report"and not pay the dude. Although I would hope that ---- would see it as a scam. There is still a box on there for sale, with no bids though, hopefully ---- will have that removed.
I wonder if his description was revised at all after the bidding started.
I wonder if his description was revised at all after the bidding started.
lovethesea
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oops, forgot I can't put "that sight" down....
scubadoo
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If you look at some of those auctions on ----, the pictures include contents.
When talking about fraud, you have to prove the toughest aspect...intent. A case can be made that these sellers are intending to commit fraud as the pictures are misleading and are not of the actual item.
Again, what is the intent...to represet all aspects of the auction truthfully...or to mislead with some aspects with the intent to defraud.
When talking about fraud, you have to prove the toughest aspect...intent. A case can be made that these sellers are intending to commit fraud as the pictures are misleading and are not of the actual item.
Again, what is the intent...to represet all aspects of the auction truthfully...or to mislead with some aspects with the intent to defraud.
keleighr
Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
Heck for $600 I would take the "report"and not pay the dude. Although I would hope that ---- would see it as a scam. There is still a box on there for sale, with no bids though, hopefully ---- will have that removed.
I wonder if his description was revised at all after the bidding started.
it shows when any revision has been made to the description.
it will say "so and so has added........."
Heck for $600 I would take the "report"and not pay the dude. Although I would hope that ---- would see it as a scam. There is still a box on there for sale, with no bids though, hopefully ---- will have that removed.
I wonder if his description was revised at all after the bidding started.
it shows when any revision has been made to the description.
it will say "so and so has added........."
bigb
Member
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
If you look at some of those auctions on ----, the pictures include contents.
When talking about fraud, you have to prove the toughest aspect...intent. A case can be made that these sellers are intending to commit fraud as the pictures are misleading and are not of the actual item.
Again, what is the intent...to represet all aspects of the auction truthfully...or to mislead with some aspects with the intent to defraud.
If thats the case this guy uses microsofts image and states that it is a homemade box he's selling :notsure:
If you look at some of those auctions on ----, the pictures include contents.
When talking about fraud, you have to prove the toughest aspect...intent. A case can be made that these sellers are intending to commit fraud as the pictures are misleading and are not of the actual item.
Again, what is the intent...to represet all aspects of the auction truthfully...or to mislead with some aspects with the intent to defraud.
If thats the case this guy uses microsofts image and states that it is a homemade box he's selling :notsure:
lovethesea
Active Member
his intent was to mislead. Just looking at the pics he placed in the auction AND the description next to the unit itself. Only in the context below does he describe his scam.
Thats why I was wondering if he revised it at all after the bidding began. (or even if thats possible)
Thats why I was wondering if he revised it at all after the bidding began. (or even if thats possible)
keleighr
Active Member
Originally Posted by BigB
If thats the case this guy uses microsofts image and states that it is a homemade box he's selling :notsure:
but he also writes that the box looks BETTER than the actual pic.
He is covering his bases in the text.
Again, like was said before, if you do not read the fine print then you are the turnip
If thats the case this guy uses microsofts image and states that it is a homemade box he's selling :notsure:
but he also writes that the box looks BETTER than the actual pic.
He is covering his bases in the text.
Again, like was said before, if you do not read the fine print then you are the turnip
keleighr
Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
his intent was to mislead. Just looking at the pics he placed in the auction AND the description next to the unit itself. Only in the context below does he describe his scam.
Thats why I was wondering if he revised it at all after the bidding began. (or even if thats possible)
You can revise information on the site but it will say on the site what revisions have been made.
this person is totally banking on the fact that they won't read the text. that's where he has covered all his bases.
if the person bids with out reading what they are purchasing then shame on them.
i would love to know this person's rating ands the feedback he/she has been given in the past.
me, i read everything, including the person's feedback.
if they have to many negs saying the same thing i do not buy from them.
his intent was to mislead. Just looking at the pics he placed in the auction AND the description next to the unit itself. Only in the context below does he describe his scam.
Thats why I was wondering if he revised it at all after the bidding began. (or even if thats possible)
You can revise information on the site but it will say on the site what revisions have been made.
this person is totally banking on the fact that they won't read the text. that's where he has covered all his bases.
if the person bids with out reading what they are purchasing then shame on them.
i would love to know this person's rating ands the feedback he/she has been given in the past.
me, i read everything, including the person's feedback.
if they have to many negs saying the same thing i do not buy from them.
pontius
Active Member
what does the item headline say? does it says, "Empty Xbox 360 box"? I believe that is what would matter in court, not the fine print inside the auction. also, the auctions are listed by categories......was this auction in the electronics category or the empty box/collectibles category?
scubadoo
Active Member
Seller also lists the actual contents with one line of this is not what you will get. Obvious the intent is to defraud...he/she COULD end up in jail if some DA wishes to pursue, This is not an auction promoting a box only.........the intent is to decieve and defraud....guilty
lovethesea
Active Member
I have had good luck with that place. I am like you though, I look everywhere on there before I buy. If something looks remotely hinky I keep looking. Even if the person has a negative, I look at the person who gave the negative. Sometimes THEY are the loser and don't pay etc. and just like to make others look bad.
Its a tricky place alright, and they make a ton of money.
Its a tricky place alright, and they make a ton of money.
lovethesea
Active Member
hang him!
keleighr
Active Member
Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
Seller also lists the actual contents with one line of this is not what you will get. Obvious the intent is to defraud...he/she COULD end up in jail if some DA wishes to pursue, This is not an auction promoting a box only.........the intent is to decieve and defraud....guilty
how many times have you all signed a cell phone agreement woth out reading the entire contract, same with a credit card, opening an account....???
I can gurantee if he printed out what was stated on the sites page they court would look at the buyer.
BUYER BEWARE wasn't said with out a good reason behind it.
I do not agree with what this person is doing. I think they are seriously taking advantage of the fack that it is near Xmas as well as knowing that right now this is the hardest thing to come across right now.
But from a court's perspective they will look at the entire page of what was written.
The buyer will lose.
do i think that would be right, of course not.
but in this day and age you REALLY have to look at where you are buying and who are you buying from.
especially on-line
Seller also lists the actual contents with one line of this is not what you will get. Obvious the intent is to defraud...he/she COULD end up in jail if some DA wishes to pursue, This is not an auction promoting a box only.........the intent is to decieve and defraud....guilty
how many times have you all signed a cell phone agreement woth out reading the entire contract, same with a credit card, opening an account....???
I can gurantee if he printed out what was stated on the sites page they court would look at the buyer.
BUYER BEWARE wasn't said with out a good reason behind it.
I do not agree with what this person is doing. I think they are seriously taking advantage of the fack that it is near Xmas as well as knowing that right now this is the hardest thing to come across right now.
But from a court's perspective they will look at the entire page of what was written.
The buyer will lose.
do i think that would be right, of course not.
but in this day and age you REALLY have to look at where you are buying and who are you buying from.
especially on-line
keleighr
Active Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
I have had good luck with that place. I am like you though, I look everywhere on there before I buy. If something looks remotely hinky I keep looking. Even if the person has a negative, I look at the person who gave the negative. Sometimes THEY are the loser and don't pay etc. and just like to make others look bad.
Its a tricky place alright, and they make a ton of money.
Exactly.
I follow the path........sometimes folks give negatives because it took three days to arrive!! PAHLEASE!!!
i have seen a neg from a person who had one the item only a few hours before!!
So like you I read the entire item listing and i also read their feedback.
I have had good luck with that place. I am like you though, I look everywhere on there before I buy. If something looks remotely hinky I keep looking. Even if the person has a negative, I look at the person who gave the negative. Sometimes THEY are the loser and don't pay etc. and just like to make others look bad.
Its a tricky place alright, and they make a ton of money.
Exactly.
I follow the path........sometimes folks give negatives because it took three days to arrive!! PAHLEASE!!!
i have seen a neg from a person who had one the item only a few hours before!!
So like you I read the entire item listing and i also read their feedback.
lovethesea
Active Member
Originally Posted by keleighr
how many times have you all signed a cell phone agreement woth out reading the entire contract,
heck, I can't even make heads or tails of the damn bill!!
how many times have you all signed a cell phone agreement woth out reading the entire contract,
heck, I can't even make heads or tails of the damn bill!!
