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Originally Posted by sharkbait9
http:///forum/post/2604625
A remarkable coral?????
A coral that was living fine on a reef before we "hobbyist" had to have it. The wholesaler thought wow what a bright color. I'll give it a name and charge an out rages amount and someone one will want it.
If the coral sells I’ll go dig more up. So where is the responsible hobbyist at?
A responsible hobbyist would pay that amount grow it out because they like the coral in his/her tank. As the coral grows out, they frag out 1/2 inch and sell it for a couple of dollars, and spread the aquaculture coral around, saving the natural reef from destruction. Right? that’s what the true hobbyist would do, help try and save the natural coral reef and leave them alone slowing the demand for that coral.
NO, I have to make back my 150 bucks on two frags to make back what I paid. So the cycle continues supplier gets more, sells for a couple of bucks cheaper or more but you get more polyps (however it goes) that’s a better deal and the wild caught continue to sell.
I’ll use you as an example (I’m not attacking you or degrading you but using you more as a point)
You have some very pretty yumas/ric we can all agree on that. You like Yuma/ric right? So you buy them and yeah you pay a pretty penny for them. You seem to have a way of making them split, whether it be by your hands and a knives or natural. What effort did you put into that? A water change? Quality salt? Additives? Equipment?
That’s the cost of the hobby for your own enjoyment of the hobby to succeed. The profit? Is the fact that you are taking a wild creature and allowing it to thrive and multiple in your closed ocean, that’s your reward.
So now you have tanks loaded up and littered with yumas/ric, so instead of sending the fruits of your labor out to other enclosed systems to spread your aquaculture coral and building up the aquaculture Yuma/ric population you put a strangle hold on it by charging what you paid for it or close to it.
Your not helping the population, only justifying the reason why to sell at store price not a couple of bucks to fellow hobbyist to fellow hobbyist.
Im not saying yeah three fancy Yuma/ric for 5 bucks, but when a Yuma goes for 125-150 bucks that’s aquaculture to begin with by a hobbyist, don’t say they are responsible or helping the hobby out. Those hobbyist are part of the problem.
Zooanthids for 50 bucks a polyp again those sellers are part of the problem.
I sold five polyps of glowing orange madness for 10 bucks (price covered the cost of everything I used)They are slow growers and glow crazy under high k and even lower k lights but they finally covered the rock so I don’t need anymore, I was not trying to make back what I paid for them, so I’m and idiot I guess for not trying to make a profit on the zoas?
That’s my point. All my coral as they grow get fragged and put into one of my other tanks and they grow they go into another one of my tanks till finely they need to go into new tank outside my house.
Four tanks of aquaculture then off to new waters to start again. Isn’t that what this hobby is about?
Enjoyment and knowing your labor is growing a new colony some place else.
I beg someone to justify charging big money for a coral frag that is in this hobby for the enjoyment.
If any of us were TRULY responsible hobbyists we would not put any kind of creature inside of a small glass box.........
http:///forum/post/2604625
A remarkable coral?????
A coral that was living fine on a reef before we "hobbyist" had to have it. The wholesaler thought wow what a bright color. I'll give it a name and charge an out rages amount and someone one will want it.
If the coral sells I’ll go dig more up. So where is the responsible hobbyist at?
A responsible hobbyist would pay that amount grow it out because they like the coral in his/her tank. As the coral grows out, they frag out 1/2 inch and sell it for a couple of dollars, and spread the aquaculture coral around, saving the natural reef from destruction. Right? that’s what the true hobbyist would do, help try and save the natural coral reef and leave them alone slowing the demand for that coral.
NO, I have to make back my 150 bucks on two frags to make back what I paid. So the cycle continues supplier gets more, sells for a couple of bucks cheaper or more but you get more polyps (however it goes) that’s a better deal and the wild caught continue to sell.
I’ll use you as an example (I’m not attacking you or degrading you but using you more as a point)
You have some very pretty yumas/ric we can all agree on that. You like Yuma/ric right? So you buy them and yeah you pay a pretty penny for them. You seem to have a way of making them split, whether it be by your hands and a knives or natural. What effort did you put into that? A water change? Quality salt? Additives? Equipment?
That’s the cost of the hobby for your own enjoyment of the hobby to succeed. The profit? Is the fact that you are taking a wild creature and allowing it to thrive and multiple in your closed ocean, that’s your reward.
So now you have tanks loaded up and littered with yumas/ric, so instead of sending the fruits of your labor out to other enclosed systems to spread your aquaculture coral and building up the aquaculture Yuma/ric population you put a strangle hold on it by charging what you paid for it or close to it.
Your not helping the population, only justifying the reason why to sell at store price not a couple of bucks to fellow hobbyist to fellow hobbyist.
Im not saying yeah three fancy Yuma/ric for 5 bucks, but when a Yuma goes for 125-150 bucks that’s aquaculture to begin with by a hobbyist, don’t say they are responsible or helping the hobby out. Those hobbyist are part of the problem.
Zooanthids for 50 bucks a polyp again those sellers are part of the problem.
I sold five polyps of glowing orange madness for 10 bucks (price covered the cost of everything I used)They are slow growers and glow crazy under high k and even lower k lights but they finally covered the rock so I don’t need anymore, I was not trying to make back what I paid for them, so I’m and idiot I guess for not trying to make a profit on the zoas?
That’s my point. All my coral as they grow get fragged and put into one of my other tanks and they grow they go into another one of my tanks till finely they need to go into new tank outside my house.
Four tanks of aquaculture then off to new waters to start again. Isn’t that what this hobby is about?
Enjoyment and knowing your labor is growing a new colony some place else.
I beg someone to justify charging big money for a coral frag that is in this hobby for the enjoyment.
If any of us were TRULY responsible hobbyists we would not put any kind of creature inside of a small glass box.........
