Week 4

[stdreb27]

Well, I was out of town, this weekend, Texas State Fair, Texas OU game (just happened to cooincide, I didn't actually get tickets, family thing). Then a quick 8 hour drive across texas, on Sunday, so I didn't see any football.
But I do know, Indy lost again, the bears did too. I heard Cutler was seeing stars. The Stiller's lost, So that leave's NO and the bye week Chief's.
What I find ironic about this whole week in football, wasn't so much the NFL as it was Baylor got more votes than UT to be ranked and TCU is the texas team in the top 5.
Which to me doesn't make much sense, UT got whooped, but hell OU won a national championship after loosing to Texas. Go figure.

 

[stdreb27]

Oh and I almost forgot, they had a Tom Landry exhibit at the state fair! Guess what I got to see!

(I didn't know they were that small)

 

[bionicarm]

TCU is undefeated, and were ranked fourth in the BCS before the Oregon win. Has Baylor lost a game this year? Texas lost to unranked UCLA, and OU was only ranked 8th before saturday's game. Heaven forbid UT isn't ranked above any other Texas team. That's why I have no respect for any of the college polls. They base rankings by popularity and past records. I remember when Notre Dame had lost 4 games on season, and they were still ranked in the Top 25.

 

[stdreb27]

hey, the ranking system sucks, you'll get no argument for me there. Just pointing out the problems with it... That and although I find it hilarious, I don't know if I'd giving texas that much of a hit, they're ranked 21 and lose to a 9th ranked team.

 

[reefraff]

TCU is 5th. Oregon jumped Boise St. That should have the spud heads fuming. What gets me is LSU didn't drop. They got a lucky win against the 2nd best team in the SUC and they move up in the polls???

 

[monsinour]

You guys are such homers its not even funny. Your QB, gilbert (?), needs some seasoning. Consider this year a rebuilding year and look forward to next year. I say that ya'll have atleast one more loss coming your way this season. Not that the horns suck this year, but they certainly are not exceptional. And what other 2-2 team is in the polls?
Besides, dont get your panties in a bunch, the polls that are out now dont mean a thing. Wait until the 3'rd sunday in October before you start complaining about where you are in the polls.

 

[aquaknight]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315699
So that leave's NO and the bye week Chief's.
Just the Chief's. NO lost to Atlanta last week.
As for the college rankings, quality of opponent loses. Lose to an unranked team, and then lose again, gonna be tough to keep you in the top 25 (UT). When your only loss is to one of the top teams in the country, and the rest of your wins are pretty lopsided, pretty easy to still have you in the top 25 (Baylor).

 

[bionicarm]

Unless something screwy happens, Alabama and Ohio St. will be playing for the BCS Championship. They'll let LSU or OU jump TCU, Oregon, and Boise St. before allowing either of those three teams to play for the Big One. It's all aboutthe $$$$$, and those three teams don't even rank in the minds of the BCS.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315794
Unless something screwy happens, Alabama and Ohio St. will be playing for the BCS Championship. They'll let LSU or OU jump TCU, Oregon, and Boise St. before allowing either of those three teams to play for the Big One. It's all aboutthe $$$$$, and those three teams don't even rank in the minds of the BCS.
I doubt they would jump Oklahoma over Oregon but they will the other 2 in a heart beat.

 

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315802
I doubt they would jump Oklahoma over Oregon but they will the other 2 in a heart beat.
Agree completely. only way boise or TCU get into the MNC (Mythical National Championship) is if the winners of the BCS conferences all have 1 loss and either one of those 2 are undefeated. I say a 1 loss SEC gets in over the 2 but doubt that any other 1 loss conference champ gets in over them. There is too much of a media push to have one of these little schools in the mnc game. Right now, I would even put the edge to TCU over Boise based on schedule alone. You and 10 of your friends could go undefeated in the MWC. I'll even bet there are some high school teams that could walk through that conference.

 

[kjr_trig]

For college, I think 4 teams have really separated themselves and are the front runners for the title game. Alabama, Ohio St, and Oregon I think are obvious, but I think Nebraska would be the 4th. Don't think OU is in Nebraska's class, and certainly don't think Boise or TCU deserve shots as they don't play elite schedules.
As for the NFL, wonder where "Bear's fan" is after me saying how they're not that good and will come back to earth and "Bears fan" saying how great they obviously were.....What did they have, 5 first downs against the Giants? nice
Should be a fun game tonight, I think Miami and New England are quite good and both need wins to keep pace with the Jets.

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315794
Unless something screwy happens, Alabama and Ohio St. will be playing for the BCS Championship. They'll let LSU or OU jump TCU, Oregon, and Boise St. before allowing either of those three teams to play for the Big One. It's all aboutthe $$$$$, and those three teams don't even rank in the minds of the BCS.
Wow, did you seriously just lump The University of Nike in with Boise and TCU???? That would be Oregon BTW. Rest assured, nobody will leapfrog Oregon if they go undefeated. I'm guessing you don't watch much college football, LSU is zero threat to play in the National Championship game, they needed a miracle to beat Tennessee at home and Oregon beat Tennessee by like 50 in Knoxville.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315879
Wow, did you seriously just lump The University of Nike in with Boise and TCU???? That would be Oregon BTW. Rest assured, nobody will leapfrog Oregon if they go undefeated. I'm guessing you don't watch much college football, LSU is zero threat to play in the National Championship game, they needed a miracle to beat Tennessee at home and Oregon beat Tennessee by like 50 in Knoxville.
You don't get it. Oregon, TCU, and Boise St. have never been considered "elite" teams in the minds of the BCS voting bloc. The only credance any of those teams get regarding votes are from the maybe the Coach's Poll. Look at Oregon's schedule. Not one single team they play this year is in the BCS Top 25 Poll after Week 6. BTW, the Tennessee score was 48 - 13. Let's see, 48 - 13 = 35. When does 50 = 35? LSU still has FOUR Top 25 teams to play, Including #1 Alabama. If LSU were to go undefeated the remainder of the season (which I doubt they will), I'd almost bet they'd leapfrog Oregon.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315955
You don't get it. Oregon, TCU, and Boise St. have never been considered "elite" teams in the minds of the BCS voting bloc. The only credance any of those teams get regarding votes are from the maybe the Coach's Poll. Look at Oregon's schedule. Not one single team they play this year is in the BCS Top 25 Poll after Week 6. BTW, the Tennessee score was 48 - 13. Let's see, 48 - 13 = 35. When does 50 = 35? LSU still has FOUR Top 25 teams to play, Including #1 Alabama. If LSU were to go undefeated the remainder of the season (which I doubt they will), I'd almost bet they'd leapfrog Oregon.
Be pretty rare that one team from a BCS conference would come from more than a few spots back to jump another BCS team, even a team from the overrated SEC. LSU should have gotten dropped a few spots after the luckout win against Tenn.

 

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316022
Be pretty rare that one team from a BCS conference would come from more than a few spots back to jump another BCS team, even a team from the overrated SEC. LSU should have gotten dropped a few spots after the luckout win against Tenn.
Agree on all points.
@bionicarm : ever hear of stanford? Last i checked they are still in the top 25 in both polls. Also, the AP poll doesnt mean didly poo. Its the coaches poll combined with the harris poll (not out yet) combined with the puters (most not out yet) that make up the BCS rankings. I have a hard time beliving that your not some kind of homer or moron. How can anyone forget that oregon played in the rose bowl last season, almost got into the MNC with harrington, and just jumped boise in the ap poll and "not be in contention in the BCS poll bloc"? What ever it is your smoking, its time to pass it along the line.

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316026
Agree on all points.
@bionicarm : ever hear of stanford? Last i checked they are still in the top 25 in both polls. Also, the AP poll doesnt mean didly poo. Its the coaches poll combined with the harris poll (not out yet) combined with the puters (most not out yet) that make up the BCS rankings. I have a hard time beliving that your not some kind of homer or moron. How can anyone forget that oregon played in the rose bowl last season, almost got into the MNC with harrington, and just jumped boise in the ap poll and "not be in contention in the BCS poll bloc"? What ever it is your smoking, its time to pass it along the line.
Woohoo! Stanford is a whopping 16th in the AP Top 25 Poll, and 18th in the USA Today Poll. That's the only team in the Top 25 Oregon has yet to play. LSU still has to play the #14 team (Florida), #8 team (Auburn), #1 team (Alabama), and the #11 team (Arkansas). You don't think the computers may skew a few points in favor of LSU over Oregon? Hate to tell you, but the Coaches' Poll is essentialy the USA Today Poll - The football rankings are compiled by the USA Today Board of Coaches which is made up of 59 head coaches at Division I FBS institutions.[sup][1][/sup] All coaches are members of the American Football Coaches Association. The basketball rankings are compiled by the USA Today Board of Coaches which is made up of 31 head coaches at Division I institutions.
What homer team are you rooting for? Don't tell me. Oregon. Of course they played in the Rose Bowl last year. In the current BCS alignment, the Rose Bowl will host the designated Big Ten and Pacific-10 conference representatives unless they are involved in the national championship game. Didn't they win the PAC-10 conference last year? Orgeon finished 7th last year in the BCS rankings. If it wasn't for that, they would've ended up in the Buckee's Beaver Inivitational Bowl. The ONLY reason they played in the Rose Bowl is because of the conference they are in. Boise St. was a more deserving team to play in the Rose Bowl, but since neither Oregon or Ohio State were in contention for the National Championship, no "outsider" team was invited.
I actually prefer to smoke the "good stuff". You on the other hand like to sip your Oregon/Pac-10 Kool Laid.

 

[stdreb27]

Stanford was 9th before the drumming they got from the Quack attack.
lol did anyone see the one man umpa lumpa wrecking crew for New England?

 

[bionicarm]

And if Orgeon or Boise St. were to lose a game this season, they'd be down there with them. Of course that won't happen with the Powderpuff schedule they have for the rest of the year.

 

[monsinour]

I am so not an oregon fan. you really dont read my posts on this boad do you? Stanford will be right back in the top 10 before to long. So then you are an LSU homer and you are clouded by your GEAUX TIGERS glasses. There is no way LSU makes it through its schedule without atleast 2 losses. Bama will roll all over LSU as will Arkansas. The auburn and florida games are toss ups and if you are on the road for either one, you lose that game. BTW, how do you like your idiot head coach? I am sure all the scum fans are happy and sad at the same time that they didnt get a new carr with les miles. Go burry your head in the sand and wait for another 2 years when bama will suck again, sabian will be coaching elsewhere, and maybe LSU will have players that can stay out of trouble long enough to make it through a season. BTW, how is Ryan doing?

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3315955
You don't get it. Oregon, TCU, and Boise St. have never been considered "elite" teams in the minds of the BCS voting bloc. The only credance any of those teams get regarding votes are from the maybe the Coach's Poll. Look at Oregon's schedule. Not one single team they play this year is in the BCS Top 25 Poll after Week 6. BTW, the Tennessee score was 48 - 13. Let's see, 48 - 13 = 35. When does 50 = 35? LSU still has FOUR Top 25 teams to play, Including #1 Alabama. If LSU were to go undefeated the remainder of the season (which I doubt they will), I'd almost bet they'd leapfrog Oregon.
You're completely wrong on this, but that's ok. Oregon is easily one one of the elite programs in the country, and the Pac 10 is easily the second best conference in the country this year. Not too mention Oregon is all but bankrolled by Phil Knight.
And yes Oregon won by 35 not 50, the point went right over your head, but again that's ok. The point was even playing at home the Vols were not in the same class as Oregon, yet they should have beaten LSU in Baton Rouge....Nobody that follows college football would think Oregon and LSU are comparable teams this year. Again, if Oregon goes undefeated, NOBODY will leapfrog them.