Week 4

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316119
and the Pac 10 is easily the second best conference in the country this year.
How in the world did you say that with a straight face? LOL

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316119
You're completely wrong on this, but that's ok. Oregon is easily one one of the elite programs in the country, and the Pac 10 is easily the second best conference in the country this year. Not too mention Oregon is all but bankrolled by Phil Knight.
And yes Oregon won by 35 not 50, the point went right over your head, but again that's ok. The point was even playing at home the Vols were not in the same class as Oregon, yet they should have beaten LSU in Baton Rouge....Nobody that follows college football would think Oregon and LSU are comparable teams this year. Again, if Oregon goes undefeated, NOBODY will leapfrog them.
Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm not an LSU fan. How many National Championships has Oregon won, and how many has LSU won? I was just using LSU as an example as to how the BCS skews who gets an opportunity to even play for the BCS Championship. Who cares how bad LSU is playing this year? Right now, they're 5-0, and Rank 12th. If they somehow were able to beat all four of the teams I listed, I guarantee you they will leapfrog both Oregon and Boise St. in the polls. Mr. Computer will make that happen. Do you honestly think that if Oregon or Boise St. had to play Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, and Alabama during the regular season, that either one of these teams would be in the Top 25? If you do, then obviously YOU have no idea or know anything about college football.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316138
Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm not an LSU fan. How many National Championships has Oregon won, and how many has LSU won? I was just using LSU as an example as to how the BCS skews who gets an opportunity to even play for the BCS Championship. Who cares how bad LSU is playing this year? Right now, they're 5-0, and Rank 12th. If they somehow were able to beat all four of the teams I listed, I guarantee you they will leapfrog both Oregon and Boise St. in the polls. Mr. Computer will make that happen. Do you honestly think that if Oregon or Boise St. had to play Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, and Alabama during the regular season, that either one of these teams would be in the Top 25? If you do, then obviously YOU have no idea or know anything about college football.

I'd put 10 grand against that in Vegas. Despite the bias towards the SEC Harris and the coaches would never jump LSU over ANY team that started in the top 10 and has had the margin of victory Oregon is having this year. LSU has 3 games with less than a TD margin and only one of the three teams has a winning record at this point.
Wont matter anyway. USC is going to beat Oregon and Arizona, Ohio St will lose to wisconsin and Penn State, Texas beats Nebraska, Oki State beats Oklahoma and Floriduh beats Bama in the rematch in the SEC championship game leaving Boise St and TCU in the NC game. REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!

 

[stdreb27]

lol remember when LSU won the national championship after loosing twice to unranked teams?
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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316118
I am so not an oregon fan. you really dont read my posts on this boad do you? Stanford will be right back in the top 10 before to long. So then you are an LSU homer and you are clouded by your GEAUX TIGERS glasses. There is no way LSU makes it through its schedule without atleast 2 losses. Bama will roll all over LSU as will Arkansas. The auburn and florida games are toss ups and if you are on the road for either one, you lose that game. BTW, how do you like your idiot head coach? I am sure all the scum fans are happy and sad at the same time that they didnt get a new carr with les miles. Go burry your head in the sand and wait for another 2 years when bama will suck again, sabian will be coaching elsewhere, and maybe LSU will have players that can stay out of trouble long enough to make it through a season. BTW, how is Ryan doing?

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316154
I'd put 10 grand against that in Vegas. Despite the bias towards the SEC Harris and the coaches would never jump LSU over ANY team that started in the top 10 and has had the margin of victory Oregon is having this year. LSU has 3 games with less than a TD margin and only one of the three teams has a winning record at this point.
Wont matter anyway. USC is going to beat Oregon and Arizona, Ohio St will lose to wisconsin and Penn State, Texas beats Nebraska, Oki State beats Oklahoma and Floriduh beats Bama in the rematch in the SEC championship game leaving Boise St and TCU in the NC game. REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!
I hope this is some kind of sarcastic joke. Why wouldn't Oregon have a hugh margin of victory over their opponents this year? Half of them would have a hard time beating some of our Texas high school football teams, much less a team in another college division. Who cares what the margin of victory is. A win is a win. You actually think that if LSU were able to beat Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and Arkansas by even a field goal, that they wouldn't get more BCS votes for the National Championship over Oregon and Boise St.? Please.
TCU and Boise St. in the NC would be great. I'd love to see it. Granted I'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery, but it could happen all the same.

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by kjr_trig http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4#post_3316119
You're completely wrong on this, but that's ok. Oregon is easily one one of the elite programs in the country, and the Pac 10 is easily the second best conference in the country this year. Not too mention Oregon is all but bankrolled by Phil Knight.
And yes Oregon won by 35 not 50, the point went right over your head, but again that's ok. The point was even playing at home the Vols were not in the same class as Oregon, yet they should have beaten LSU in Baton Rouge....Nobody that follows college football would think Oregon and LSU are comparable teams this year. Again, if Oregon goes undefeated, NOBODY will leapfrog them.
I guess not many people here really understand what University of Nike is all about these days or how deep Uncle Phil's pockets are and how deeply involved he is with the sports program. I was in Eugene not long ago and took a look at the new basketball arena and after spending all that money Uncle Phil is not going to be satisfied till the basketball team catches up with the football program.
Oregon probably spends more on their uniforms than some teams have for a budget period.
Fishtaco

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316126
How in the world did you say that with a straight face? LOL
It's not even close right now....Listen to ESPN, they hate the Pac 10 (only BCS conference that has a bigger TV deal with another network), and they are saying it constantly lately....Look at all the out of conference wins
UCLA (picked 8th in Pac) wins over Houstan and Texas (in Austin)
Stanford...destroyed Notre Dame in South Bend, destroyed Wake
Orgeon....destroyed Tennessee on the road
Arizona....beat Iowa
ASU (picked 9th in PAC)....loses in Madison by a blocked extra point
name a conference with a better out of conference performance than that...including the SEC

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316138
Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm not an LSU fan. How many National Championships has Oregon won, and how many has LSU won? I was just using LSU as an example as to how the BCS skews who gets an opportunity to even play for the BCS Championship. Who cares how bad LSU is playing this year? Right now, they're 5-0, and Rank 12th. If they somehow were able to beat all four of the teams I listed, I guarantee you they will leapfrog both Oregon and Boise St. in the polls. Mr. Computer will make that happen. Do you honestly think that if Oregon or Boise St. had to play Florida, Auburn, Arkansas, and Alabama during the regular season, that either one of these teams would be in the Top 25? If you do, then obviously YOU have no idea or know anything about college football.

You are really coming off like someone that doesn't follow college football....QUIT COMPARING BOISE AND OREGON. The WAC is a terrible football conference, Boise will go the rest of season and not see 1 NFL level defensive player, you can't go 1 week in the PAC 10 without seeing NFL talent.
LSU is not a great team this year, they will likely lose to all the ranked opponents they play.

 

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316157
lol remember when LSU won the national championship after loosing twice to unranked teams?
Yea, that was the year that no one was a great, dominating team. Everyone kept losing. I chalk that season up to, "eh, there is always next year." I am a buckeye fan and I still say to this day that they didnt deserve to be in the MNC game.
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316154
Wont matter anyway. USC is going to beat Oregon and Arizona, Ohio St will lose to wisconsin and Penn State, Texas beats Nebraska, Oki State beats Oklahoma and Floriduh beats Bama in the rematch in the SEC championship game leaving Boise St and TCU in the NC game. REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!
at first I was like, WTF. Then i started to smell the sarcasm. LOL
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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316161
I hope this is some kind of sarcastic joke. Why wouldn't Oregon have a hugh margin of victory over their opponents this year? Half of them would have a hard time beating some of our Texas high school football teams, much less a team in another college division. Who cares what the margin of victory is. A win is a win. You actually think that if LSU were able to beat Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and Arkansas by even a field goal, that they wouldn't get more BCS votes for the National Championship over Oregon and Boise St.? Please.
TCU and Boise St. in the NC would be great. I'd love to see it. Granted I'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery, but it could happen all the same.
Nope, no one would jump LSU over oregon if both teams win out the rest of the season. Schedule doesnt matter. Oregon was there first and LSU was questioned. The real problem is the preseason poll. If that were eliminated, then there might be a chance for someone out of the top 15 to get a real shot at the MNC. Throughout the BCS era, there hasnt been, that i am aware of, a team to come out of the bottom top 25 ( numbers 16 through 25) to play in the MNC. Basically if you arent a top 15 preseason team, you dont have a chance to get into the MNC.
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Originally Posted by kjr_trig> http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316181
It's not even close right now....Listen to ESPN, they hate the Pac 10 (only BCS conference that has a bigger TV deal with another network), and they are saying it constantly lately....Look at all the out of conference wins
UCLA (picked 8th in Pac) wins over Houstan and Texas (in Austin)
Stanford...destroyed Notre Dame in South Bend, destroyed Wake
Orgeon....destroyed Tennessee on the road
Arizona....beat Iowa
ASU (picked 9th in PAC)....loses in Madison by a blocked extra point
name a conference with a better out of conference performance than that...including the SEC
LOL, you still have a straight face. your a pac-10 homer and that is fine. we are all entitled to our homerism. But honestly, oregon's super awesome scoring defense sure did look like sh*t in the first quarter right? and what kind of super awesome defense allows 31 points in a game? The problem with the pac-10 is that no one plays defense. If there would be any team, any team at all, even wazzu, that could play a decent defense, they could take that conference in a walk. Last year's rose bowl is my proof. And yes, that is an impressive non conference record except the notre lame victory. Who hasnt beat notre lame? But the real stars on that list are the arizona teams. the vols are horrid, texas is in a rebuilding/seasoning year, notre lame is well its notre lame, wake forrest hasnt been stellar in a few years, and oregon state didnt look that good on the blue turf against the smurfs from idaho. But there is your baromoter. Oregon state has played both TCU as well as Boise. Follow them throughout the year and you can see what kind of conference the pac-10 really is. I liked the beavers last year to beat oregon in the civil war. Didnt happen. I think they are a decent team, if they could get a decent "game manager" QB. they have the weapons this year, but how long can the rodgers brothers stick around out there?

 

[stdreb27]

lol, I"d just like to stop for a second, and point out, the Cowboys didn't play this week, and we have no reason to talk NFL. lol

 

[fishtaco]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316197
Yea, that was the year that no one was a great, dominating team. Everyone kept losing. I chalk that season up to, "eh, there is always next year." I am a buckeye fan and I still say to this day that they didnt deserve to be in the MNC game.
at first I was like, WTF. Then i started to smell the sarcasm. LOL
Nope, no one would jump LSU over oregon if both teams win out the rest of the season. Schedule doesnt matter. Oregon was there first and LSU was questioned. The real problem is the preseason poll. If that were eliminated, then there might be a chance for someone out of the top 15 to get a real shot at the MNC. Throughout the BCS era, there hasnt been, that i am aware of, a team to come out of the bottom top 25 ( numbers 16 through 25) to play in the MNC. Basically if you arent a top 15 preseason team, you dont have a chance to get into the MNC.
LOL, you still have a straight face. your a pac-10 homer and that is fine. we are all entitled to our homerism. But honestly, oregon's super awesome scoring defense sure did look like sh*t in the first quarter right? and what kind of super awesome defense allows 31 points in a game? The problem with the pac-10 is that no one plays defense. If there would be any team, any team at all, even wazzu, that could play a decent defense, they could take that conference in a walk. Last year's rose bowl is my proof. And yes, that is an impressive non conference record except the notre lame victory. Who hasnt beat notre lame? But the real stars on that list are the arizona teams. the vols are horrid, texas is in a rebuilding/seasoning year, notre lame is well its notre lame, wake forrest hasnt been stellar in a few years, and oregon state didnt look that good on the blue turf against the smurfs from idaho. But there is your baromoter. Oregon state has played both TCU as well as Boise. Follow them throughout the year and you can see what kind of conference the pac-10 really is. I liked the beavers last year to beat oregon in the civil war. Didnt happen. I think they are a decent team, if they could get a decent "game manager" QB. they have the weapons this year, but how long can the rodgers brothers stick around out there?
Enough, as a local and long time Beaver fan, the fact you don't know that katz is exactly the "game manager" the Beavers have needed means you really are just blowing smoke here. How long can the Rodgers brothers stick around........mmmmm, if you are such an expert on the Pac 10, then you should know that OSU has had a long line of excellent running backs that dates back to the Erickson coached teams and I am sure they have another couple waiting in the wings to take over for the brothers. Now come back with some line about me being a homer and not knowing what I am talking about and I will laugh as I drive by the stadium today.
Fishtaco

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316197
LOL, you still have a straight face. your a pac-10 homer and that is fine. we are all entitled to our homerism. But honestly, oregon's super awesome scoring defense sure did look like sh*t in the first quarter right? and what kind of super awesome defense allows 31 points in a game? The problem with the pac-10 is that no one plays defense. If there would be any team, any team at all, even wazzu, that could play a decent defense, they could take that conference in a walk. Last year's rose bowl is my proof. And yes, that is an impressive non conference record except the notre lame victory. Who hasnt beat notre lame? But the real stars on that list are the arizona teams. the vols are horrid, texas is in a rebuilding/seasoning year, notre lame is well its notre lame, wake forrest hasnt been stellar in a few years, and oregon state didnt look that good on the blue turf against the smurfs from idaho. But there is your baromoter. Oregon state has played both TCU as well as Boise. Follow them throughout the year and you can see what kind of conference the pac-10 really is. I liked the beavers last year to beat oregon in the civil war. Didnt happen. I think they are a decent team, if they could get a decent "game manager" QB. they have the weapons this year, but how long can the rodgers brothers stick around out there?
You're kidding right??? Who the hell ever said anything about Oregon playing great defense. Heck, at the end the game they interviewed Chip Kelly and asked him something about the defensive adjustments they made at half....his response "I don't really know what they did on Defense, I coach offense".
Oregon lost to Ohio St. last year for one reason, Ohio St is an elite defensive team, and they had a month to prepare. Give last years Ohio St. team a week to prepare for that nasty spread offense and no way do they beat them.
As far as being a Pac 10 homer, I lived 16 years in Big 12 Country, and 7 years in SEC/ACC country, I've been all over. SEC is still the best conference, but again, even all the "experts" at ESPN are saying the Pac is second THIS YEAR.
Oh, and Oregon St. is down this year, they will get better as the year goes on, but losing Canfield was big for them. They would have easily rather had Canfield come back than either of the Rodgers brothers...Can't be great in the Pac 10 without a really good QB, Katz will get better, but Canfield was very good.
The only thing you have said I agree with, is the preseason poll should be done away with...Don't vote until week 5.

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316154
Wont matter anyway. USC is going to beat Oregon and Arizona, Ohio St will lose to wisconsin and Penn State, Texas beats Nebraska, Oki State beats Oklahoma and Floriduh beats Bama in the rematch in the SEC championship game leaving Boise St and TCU in the NC game. REMEMBER, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!!!
Lightman, you're smoking crack on pretty every statement here (except the Ohio St. losing to Wisconsin), but mostly on USC beating anybody....If they can't beat my Huskies, I assure they are not going to stop the Duck.

 

[monsinour]

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316202
Enough, as a local and long time Beaver fan, the fact you don't know that katz is exactly the "game manager" the Beavers have needed means you really are just blowing smoke here. How long can the Rodgers brothers stick around........mmmmm, if you are such an expert on the Pac 10, then you should know that OSU has had a long line of excellent running backs that dates back to the Erickson coached teams and I am sure they have another couple waiting in the wings to take over for the brothers. Now come back with some line about me being a homer and not knowing what I am talking about and I will laugh as I drive by the stadium today.
Fishtaco
the rodgers brothers are not both RBs, just quizz is a RB. the other brother is a WR and a senior I belive. I was just curious as to whether or not quizz was a soph or a jr. Oh yea, oregon state is known as RBU right? LOL. "and I am sure they have some waiting in the wings" ? how can you be a fan and not know the 2 deep as well as who is waiting to take over? Sounds more like smoke is coming from your mouth than mine.
Atleast kjr_trig has a sense of reality about oregon state. And yes, you are still being a pac-10 homer due to your beloved huskies that still stink. Last second field goals for the win arent all that great. Congrats on doing something that the buckeyes could not do, beat USC. But tell me when was the last time those huskies beat the buckeyes?

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316221
Atleast kjr_trig has a sense of reality about oregon state. And yes, you are still being a pac-10 homer due to your beloved huskies that still stink. Last second field goals for the win arent all that great. Congrats on doing something that the buckeyes could not do, beat USC. But tell me when was the last time those huskies beat the buckeyes?
Ah, that explains your dementia, your a Buckeye fan.

Yes, my Huskies beat the Trojans for the second straight year, only teams from the Pac 10 are capable of beating USC, they have lost 1 out of conference game the last 10 years, and that includes Bowl games, and that was the title game to Vince Young and Texas. Ohio St got destroyed at USC, and couldn't even beat USC at Columbus with a Frosh QB starting.
Current Conference Power Rankings....not sure why the Pac and Big 10 flip flopped after last week. I think everybody played in conference, but note that nobody is even close to the 2nd and 3rd spots occupied by those 2 conferences. I think the PAC is severely hurt statistically by WSU being one of the worst teams in the country. ACC and Big East = joke.
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/8330/conference-power-rankings-week-5

 

[bionicarm]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316197
Yea, that was the year that no one was a great, dominating team. Everyone kept losing. I chalk that season up to, "eh, there is always next year." I am a buckeye fan and I still say to this day that they didnt deserve to be in the MNC game.
at first I was like, WTF. Then i started to smell the sarcasm. LOL
Nope, no one would jump LSU over oregon if both teams win out the rest of the season. Schedule doesnt matter. Oregon was there first and LSU was questioned. The real problem is the preseason poll. If that were eliminated, then there might be a chance for someone out of the top 15 to get a real shot at the MNC. Throughout the BCS era, there hasnt been, that i am aware of, a team to come out of the bottom top 25 ( numbers 16 through 25) to play in the MNC. Basically if you arent a top 15 preseason team, you dont have a chance to get into the MNC.
LOL, you still have a straight face. your a pac-10 homer and that is fine. we are all entitled to our homerism. But honestly, oregon's super awesome scoring defense sure did look like sh*t in the first quarter right? and what kind of super awesome defense allows 31 points in a game? The problem with the pac-10 is that no one plays defense. If there would be any team, any team at all, even wazzu, that could play a decent defense, they could take that conference in a walk. Last year's rose bowl is my proof. And yes, that is an impressive non conference record except the notre lame victory. Who hasnt beat notre lame? But the real stars on that list are the arizona teams. the vols are horrid, texas is in a rebuilding/seasoning year, notre lame is well its notre lame, wake forrest hasnt been stellar in a few years, and oregon state didnt look that good on the blue turf against the smurfs from idaho. But there is your baromoter. Oregon state has played both TCU as well as Boise. Follow them throughout the year and you can see what kind of conference the pac-10 really is. I liked the beavers last year to beat oregon in the civil war. Didnt happen. I think they are a decent team, if they could get a decent "game manager" QB. they have the weapons this year, but how long can the rodgers brothers stick around out there?
The only reason LSU was ranked so low during pre-season is because no one is expecting them to beat any of the teams I mentioned. I don't know anything about the LSU program this year, but I imagine the people that ranked them where they are do, so I doubt seriously they will beat any of these teams this year. However, if for some miracle they were able to beat them, especially Alabama, I think LSU would have a valid case for playing in the NC over Oregon. If Ohio St., LSU, Oregon, and Boise St. all went undefeated this year, and all the other teams currently ranked higher than LSU had one or more losses, which of those four teams do you think the BCS system would choose to play for the NC? Realize this is just a wild hypothetical scenario. I know it won't happen, but it if did, which two teams would be playing in the NC this year?

 

[kjr_trig]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316238
The only reason LSU was ranked so low during pre-season is because no one is expecting them to beat any of the teams I mentioned. I don't know anything about the LSU program this year, but I imagine the people that ranked them where they are do, so I doubt seriously they will beat any of these teams this year. However, if for some miracle they were able to beat them, especially Alabama, I think LSU would have a valid case for playing in the NC over Oregon. If Ohio St., LSU, Oregon, and Boise St. all went undefeated this year, and all the other teams currently ranked higher than LSU had one or more losses, which of those four teams do you think the BCS system would choose to play for the NC? Realize this is just a wild hypothetical scenario. I know it won't happen, but it if did, which two teams would be playing in the NC this year?
Good Grief Man!!! Quit talking about LSU!!!! They are an elite program, but they are NOT elite this year. They beat UNC when they had 12 starters ineligible, they beat a WVU team that was overranked, and barely beat Tennessee whom is horrible. Jordan Jefferson is the worst starting QB in the SEC.
LSU IS NOT GOING TO GO UNDEFEATED!
But if it happened Oregon would play Ohio St. in the title game.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316161
I hope this is some kind of sarcastic joke. Why wouldn't Oregon have a hugh margin of victory over their opponents this year? Half of them would have a hard time beating some of our Texas high school football teams, much less a team in another college division. Who cares what the margin of victory is. A win is a win. You actually think that if LSU were able to beat Alabama, Auburn, Florida, and Arkansas by even a field goal, that they wouldn't get more BCS votes for the National Championship over Oregon and Boise St.? Please.
TCU and Boise St. in the NC would be great. I'd love to see it. Granted I'd have a better chance of getting struck by lightning or winning the lottery, but it could happen all the same.
Why doesn't LSU beat crappy teams by the same margin as Oregon? Oregon beat #9 ranked 4-1 Stanford by a larger margin than LSU beat 2-2 North Carolina and 2-3 Tennessee by and almost as much as LSU beat 1-3 Vanderbilt by. Where LSU needed a lot of luck to beat Tennessee Oregon beat them 48-13. You'd have to be a complete fool or a SUC fanboy to vote LSU over Oregon in any poll.

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by Monsinour http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316197
Yea, that was the year that no one was a great, dominating team. Everyone kept losing. I chalk that season up to, "eh, there is always next year." I am a buckeye fan and I still say to this day that they didnt deserve to be in the MNC game.
at first I was like, WTF. Then i started to smell the sarcasm. LOL
Nope, no one would jump LSU over oregon if both teams win out the rest of the season. Schedule doesnt matter. Oregon was there first and LSU was questioned. The real problem is the preseason poll. If that were eliminated, then there might be a chance for someone out of the top 15 to get a real shot at the MNC. Throughout the BCS era, there hasnt been, that i am aware of, a team to come out of the bottom top 25 ( numbers 16 through 25) to play in the MNC. Basically if you arent a top 15 preseason team, you dont have a chance to get into the MNC.
LOL, you still have a straight face. your a pac-10 homer and that is fine. we are all entitled to our homerism. But honestly, oregon's super awesome scoring defense sure did look like sh*t in the first quarter right? anhttps://forums.saltwaterfish.com/forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316241d what kind of super awesome defense allows 31 points in a game? The problem with the pac-10 is that no one plays defense. If there would be any team, any team at all, even wazzu, that could play a decent defense, they could take that conference in a walk. Last year's rose bowl is my proof. And yes, that is an impressive non conference record except the notre lame victory. Who hasnt beat notre lame? But the real stars on that list are the arizona teams. the vols are horrid, texas is in a rebuilding/seasoning year, notre lame is well its notre lame, wake forrest hasnt been stellar in a few years, and oregon state didnt look that good on the blue turf against the smurfs from idaho. But there is your baromoter. Oregon state has played both TCU as well as Boise. Follow them throughout the year and you can see what kind of conference the pac-10 really is. I liked the beavers last year to beat oregon in the civil war. Didnt happen. I think they are a decent team, if they could get a decent "game manager" QB. they have the weapons this year, but how long can the rodgers brothers stick around out there?
I'd have to agree that the Pac is very good this year. Out of conference/bowl games are the best indication and so far the Pac is doing VERY well.
You say the Pac doesn't play D yet Oregon held Tennessee to fewer points that the mighty Floriduh and LSU did. USC held Minnesota to their fewest points of the season and are tied for fewest points for Virginia. Arizona State held Wisconsin to their fewest points, Arizona held Iowa to 27, Penn state held them to 24, Cal sucks but they held Colorado to 7 points, least Colorado has scored is 24 in the rest of their games which includes a win against Georgia. You really want me to keep going?

 

[reefraff]

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/380879/week-4/20#post_3316238
The only reason LSU was ranked so low during pre-season is because no one is expecting them to beat any of the teams I mentioned. I don't know anything about the LSU program this year, but I imagine the people that ranked them where they are do, so I doubt seriously they will beat any of these teams this year. However, if for some miracle they were able to beat them, especially Alabama, I think LSU would have a valid case for playing in the NC over Oregon. If Ohio St., LSU, Oregon, and Boise St. all went undefeated this year, and all the other teams currently ranked higher than LSU had one or more losses, which of those four teams do you think the BCS system would choose to play for the NC? Realize this is just a wild hypothetical scenario. I know it won't happen, but it if did, which two teams would be playing in the NC this year?
If you are assuming Bama loses I'd say If Oregon keeps up with the solid wins I think they'd be a lock, especially if number 9 ranked Arizona keeps winning until they play Oregon late in the season. I dunno, if Bama wins out and If Ohio state has a couple of close calls or lucky wins Oregon might jump them based on OSU's pathetic record in NC games recently.