Weird BTA

[dogstar]

Im trying to be nice to the anemone.....
Where are you seeing the lighting thats on that tank..I would think that wingsfan would have stated the lighting if he/she new the importance of it, I could be wrong about that though...
After three months it would have recovered much of its color ( not white ) if the lighting was proper and all other parems good.....
Bubbled tips are IMO, a sign that the anemone is stressed...it bubbles them for better protection...but truth is that noones sure, just that most ppl that do keep them for long terms ( Ive have had my nearly six years ) have relaxed and streched out tenticals....research, dont take my word on it.....

 

[perfectdark]

Hes got it in a 29 Gal Red Sea Max with 110 watts of t-5's. If im not mistaken he has sufficient lighting for it. And I have also heard of anenomes taking as long as 8 months to regain their color after being bleached. Im sure higher intensity lighting would speed up this process but it doesnt mean what he has it under is insufficient.

 

[wingzfan]

I have learned MUCH since beginning to explore this hobby. Thanks to many of you. Dogstar, if you really cared about the anemone, you'd have told me (and others) what bleaching is in your original post. After you mentioned 'bleaching', I did a search on the topic and found little (other than Rod Buehle is an expert on the topic), but now understand. I KNOW lighting is important! I made sure what I had was quite appropriate. (Interestingly enough, my BTA tries to hide from the light.) I KNOW flow is important (interstingly enough, the BTA does not like too much flow) I am not professing to know ALL on anemones, that's part of the reason I am asking all of these questions! I could PRETEND like some do on this board to KNOW ALL, but I don't. Thanks for your constructive criticism, but if I need to be reprimanded, I'll call my mom! I really am trying to be a caring responsible reefkeeper and I recognize I have much to learn. Guess I could keep my mouth shut, quit asking 'stupid' questions and just make mistakes...

 

[dogstar]

My original post seemed to have got you to do just what I wanted you to do...research...Some times one word is all you need....Im not here to write a book, theres plenty of them allready. I want to get you to research yourself...
This is the best way you will learn and will make you a better hobbiest in the long run rather only asking a question here and getting several different answers from who knows who and only end up confuseing you more...
Its OK ask questions and to take advice or comments from members here but research what your told from other sorces as well.....sorces that are more organized and scientifically based. Or at least use the search feature up top...typed in anemone bleaching....2 seconds and came up with this...
https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/260411/is-this-a-bubble-tip
Read my post again, I dont think I reprimanded or critzized you...Most of my post in this thread was due to what others have said that I thought may have not been accurate IMO, Im not and normally dont call ppl out, They say what they say, I say what I say and you make the choice...and I did not wish that they seemed mean...( sorry if you or others took it that way ). One thing I never do here on this site is suger coat my message. It doesnt help you or others when ppl do that. But Im not trying to be mean......Others do a fine job of doing that here sometimes.....
I know now that you are young...Ill just have to treat you that way if you insist....let me know.
Ill say it again, your anemone is bleaching...it may be recovering but I cant tell from the photo.
EDIT....I removed a statement about you not posting your lighting....I reread the thread and see were you posted the lighting...I dont beleive I missed that, and I do apologize about that.....but how old are the lamps ??

 

[wingzfan]

Thanks for your response Dog Star. Touche, you did get me to research... I'll smooth my feathers. The lamps are about 4 months old.

 

[dogstar]

That's not too old for the lamps....it was just a thought.
If you feel the lighting is appropriate, then I'll leave that issue alone.
As far the question about the tightly bubbled tenticals, I posted my thoughts on that earlier...that was just based on my experiance and personal research was all. I want claim to be an expert.

 

[eaglephot]

Originally Posted by wingzfan
Guess I could keep my mouth shut, quit asking 'stupid' questions and just make mistakes...
Don't do that.

Keep asking and asking and asking. Oh, and ignore mean people on the message board (I am not talkin about you, Dog.

). There are just a bunch or jerks here. If I didn't ignore their stupidity, I would have never come back. Don't quit asking "stupid" questions. IMO there is no such thing. It sounds like your anemone is getting better! Cheers!

 

[eaglephot]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
I did not wish that they seemed mean...( sorry if you or others took it that way ). One thing I never do here on this site is suger coat my message. It doesnt help you or others when ppl do that. But Im not trying to be mean......Others do a fine job of doing that here sometimes.....
I am sorry. I just read your post a bit wrong. I am just always on guard with people here. Although, I should know by now that you are not one of those people!

 

[dogstar]

Eaglephot,...I did not have a " problem " with your comment in the earlier post...I just had a responce...haha...Im a big boy...I dont let those types of things get to me...or at least I try real hard not too....one thing ppl should know about me is that often, I care more about the animals that are talked about on the site than the animals doing the talking...haha...

 

[eaglephot]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
Eaglephot,...I did not have a " problem " with your comment in the earlier post...I just had a responce...haha...Im a big boy...I dont let those types of things get to me...or at least I try real hard not too....one thing ppl should know about me is that often, I care more about the animals that are talked about on the site than the animals doing the talking...haha...
HAHA!

 

[wingzfan]

ok ive been feeding the anemone the silver side every other day but he still looks bleached. Will he ever regain his color?????

 

[chano]

The research i have done indicates it could take months for his color to fully return. IMO The fact that he is getting some color back means he is on the road to recovery. Keep doing what you are doing. The color will start at the tips and work its way down twords the foot. If anyone disagrees feel free to chime in i am just going by what i read it could always be wrong or confused. The fact that it shys away from the light could be because it is not used to such an intense light. ( i dont know what kind of light it had before you got it) In time it should probably adjust i really have no idea how long that could take though.

 

[dawman]

It`s going to take a lot longer than nine days for it to recover . Keep feeding a proper lighting will bring it back .

 

[dogstar]

Just let me see if I understand correctly....In your first post, you said you had had it for 3 months....that was over a month ago....
Later you said you had been feeding silversides every two days .. ( since you've had it ?? )
So You have had it now for over 4 months and been feeding silversides and under 110 watts of T5 since you've had it.....
So far is this right ????
Has theres been any change in the color ( other than more green tips ) or tip shape or location ( like moved other then the one time, or opened more to face up to get more light ) since you got it or your earlier or last post ???
Green is not an indication of zooxanthellae, that just a colored actinic chemical thats always present....zooxanthellae is goldish to deep brown, depending on how much is present....thats the color you want to see increaseing in the anemone's oral disc ( top ) and tenticals...IMO, live zooxanthellae does live deep in their cavities or foot, it can not get light there because those areas are normally buried deep in a rock crevice...

 

[wingzfan]

Yes you are right. No, it hasn't changed color a whole lot other than the tips and it is in the exact same spot too. The onlu difference I've noticed is that it's gotten bigger. I'll post a pic.

 

[dogstar]

Let me say this as simply as I can....
I dont think your lighting is adequate for this animal...
I know others might disagree with me but its your pet and your responcable for it, so think for yourself about this....
I hope you have researched zooxanthellae since our last little spat..haha

 

[perfectdark]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
Let me say this as simply as I can....
I dont think your lighting is adequate for this animal...
I know others might disagree with me but its your pet and your responcable for it, so think for yourself about this....
I hope you have researched zooxanthellae since our last little spat..haha
The only reason why I argue this is because he has over 4 watts per gal of T-5 lighting in his DT.. That has been shown to be enough intensity in similar tanks to sustain photosynthesis in a BTA. There is a LFS I go to that has a RBTA in a redsea max display at the store, its going on over 2 years running now. IMO thats enough time to say that the lighting is sufficient. However this is MO and what I have seen.

 

[michaeltx]

sorry to come into this so late but IMO you do not have enough light on that tank for the anemone.
here is why before anyone gets all riled up if they were t-5 bulbs the tank would be 4 foot long what he has is 110 watts PC lighting which isnt strong enough to penetrate deep enough for the anemone.
here is what got me thinking it was PC lighting.
I have (2) 55W 10k actinic T-5 PC's
first t-5's dont come in 55 watt they have 54 watt but not 55 watt the next is there are 2 on a 29 gallon tank but a t-5 light would spann a 4 foot tank and I personally have never seen a 4 foot long 29 gallon tank.
I do agree with everyone that the anemone is bleached out and needs great lighting to fully recover and feeding alone will not get it back to health.
I cant really offer any more help than whats been said already though other than the lighting issue.
its not to down you though I have heard a couple of stores refer to PC as t-5s to make the sale.
Mike

 

[perfectdark]

Ahhhh well that does change things exponentially I agree if these are PC lights then indeed this animal is light starved. Although the truth will only be found by the poster reading his bulbs and fixture.

 

[wingzfan]

O.K., here are the specifics of my entire tank set-up. Any further comments?? Lighting still inadequate? Do corals need more or less light than invert? I always assumed more. Seen many similar systems with excellent displays of coral (and inverts). So...who really knows what they are talking about? Those that do or those that make comment? Do you need any more specifics? Thanks...
Total system volume 130 liters (34 gallons)
Aquarium volume 110 liters (29 gallons)
Filter volume 20 liters (5 gallons)
Aquarium length 610 mm (24")
Aquarium width 500 mm (19.7")
Aquarium height 500 mm (19.7")
Total height 612 mm (24.1")
Glass thickness 8 mm (5/16")
5 outlet power center
Course mechanical media
Fine mechanical media
Skimmer volume 3.8 liters (1 gallon)
Skimmer pump 1,200 lph (320 gph)
Collection cup volume 1.5 liters (0.4 gallon)
Circulation pumps 2 x 550 lph (2 x 145 gph)
Ceramic bio-media 2 liters (0.5 gallon)
Activated carbon 200 g (7 oz)
Fan cooled hood
Lighting - 10,000K 55W
Lighting – Actinic 55W
Electronic ballast
LED moonlights
24 hour programmable timer
Thermostat heater 150W
Q: Why are the Max light tubes called T5 power compacts?
A: Regular power compact lighting has a tube diameter of 6/8”, which is known as T6. T5 tubes haves a smaller diameter (5/8”) and produce a higher intensity output. The T5s used in the MAX are custom made power compacts that enable us to provide 55 watts of light in a smaller footprint than the equivalent (2 x 24 W) regular T5 tubes would provide. Regular power compact are often powered by magnetic ballasts, but the MAX T5 power compacts are powered by an electronic ballast to guarantee consistent high performance.