well, after almost 7 years

renogaw

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this has got to be the hardest thing of our lives...
feeding is such a nightmare :( how long does a baby cluster feed for? how many hours would she normally feed at a time? how many days does it last?
 

scotts

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Oh I hear you. Not sure if I should tell you, but we had a horrible time feeding my daughter. She had to eat 2 ounces every two hours, by the time we forced it down her it had taken 2 hours and time to start all over again. However I am glad to tell you that she made it and is now a full blown teenager.
 

renogaw

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here's what's going on with kaitlyn:
with all the nipp.le confusion and weight loss, our lactation consultant said we needed to use a nipp.le shield to help get her weight up and once she was at her birth weight we could work on getting her off the shield.
yesterday, she was on the br.ea.st for 4 hours straight. she'd fall asleep, come off, and wake right up 5 mins later hungry.
overnight this night was the same thing. 10 mins after being on shes hungry again. i even gave her 2 oz of formula, 10 mins later she was fussing.
we know she's getting milk, because she's wetting her diaper and having bowel movements. and we know she's probably having a growth spurt, but the cluster feeding is maddening.
 

spiderwoman

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Let's talk today, OK? After 11pm is what I'd call late, but any time before that is fine. We'll be shopping today so you can also call my cell phone, I think I gave you the number.
In short, she will eat more than 2oz now. It's amazing how quickly they go from 2oz to even 6oz per time. Use a larger bottle, I prefered Dr. Brown's bottles and put in 6oz and let her have at it. She is now 2 weeks, right? She may only take 4oz and that is fine, she will not overeat at this age, don't worry about it. You want her to be full, not hungry, so give her as much as she wants. I'm thinking she is going through her very first growth spurt and that means she is eating a lot.
 

dinki

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My wife and I tried a million different bottles and nip.ple types before trying Dr. Brown. They were definitely the best bottle we used. Our daughter had a bit of AR in the beginning as well as gas cramping. The Dr. Brown bottles really helped as did the mylocon (sp?) gas drops. Walmart makes a generic that is much cheaper and works just as well.
Our daughter was formula fed from day one. She was taking four ounces before we left the hospital. I know many people are nutty crazy about B. feeding and that's just fine if it suits them. I can tell you that my daughter has _never_ had any sicknesses in her two years of life other than a mild cold and the AR I mentioned above. She is quite intelligent too (although isn't everyone's baby advanced for their age?? :) ). By fourteen months she could count to fifteen on our fingers and could also count to ten in Spanish courtesy of Dora and Diego. All I'm saying is if you're having trouble br.east feeding then don't be deturred by moving to formula. It at least worked for us.
Oh, and it does get much better. The first months are pretty rough. Hey, weren't you the guy complaining that the baby was coming soon enough for you? Just kidding! We did the same thing. Hope all is well!
 

renogaw

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well, today was bad. wifey had such an issue sleeping and feeding that she really got sleep deprived to the point that she couldnt form a coherant sentance, or read the clock or the newspaper. luckily her mother was helping out today, or things may have been bad.
i had her mother make up 4 oz of formula and feed it to kaitlyn. she almost immediately went to sleep. she must have been so hungry. she just couldnt stop crying.
i spoke with th nurse practitioner about feeding formula and explained how crappy of an experience we're having with br.east feeding. she asked if we talked to a lactatio consultant, and i told her the crappy experience we had with her. she was quite surprised when i told her the name. the darn woman was more concerned with pushing her book and the ni.pple shield that she didn't want to help. every time we called her, her response was "well i'm not there so i don't know what youre doing wrong."
so, tonight wifey has the night off. she pumped about 4oz of milk, and is going to sleep. the NP said to feed kaitlyn formula tonight to give wifey some time to sleep. the NP also was surprised by the sole use of the nip.le shield and explained the way for us to wean her off it.
she also was surprised to find out that we have not been using a pacifier, especially since all the intervvention has happened already. she said it would be fine to usein small instances--not for going to bed or anything like that--and for the first time, kaitlyn did not scream bloody murder while i changed her diaper.
spiderwoman==i'll hold onto you number. for right now, i think i'm good. kaitlyn is so content right now it is unbelievable. now that we have a store of milk we can work on weaning her off the shield.
 

sigmachris

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Reno I feel for you man...we had a tough time B-feeding 3 years ago with our first. My wife felt like a failure because she couldn't preform the most natural instinct to a baby, B-feeding. We ended up having to switch to all bottle for a combination of reasons, but basically it was for the baby to put on weight. His development was incredible in spite of the bottle, formula feeding works just as well. At least you guys can pump some out, my wife got the flu within a week of birth and milk never really came in.
Second child came this past fall and we had a better experience with B-feeding. She was probably 75% B-feeding for the first few months and we just stopped after 5 months. It was still tough the second time around to really get the milk to come in, and to be honest it never really did come in on one side. It is surprising but B-feeding is a tough experience for everyone involved.
It is tough to tell your wife who has been dreaming of B-feeding her baby for months or even years, but let her know its not the end of the world. She has raging hormones but more importantly sleep deprivation is setting in. Pump as much as possible but know deep down that the formulas have enough nutrients that millions of babies have turned out OK.
Another side note and its a bit early but something to keep an eye on...try to avoid Katlyn from getting in the habit of associating bottle with sleep. It will make for tougher times in the future for her to go to sleep on her own.
I wish I could into further but I have to go now...I will follow up later if you wish.
Just keep up with what you are doing, sounds like you are doing a great job supporting "wifey" and your new daughter.
 

grennan

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congrats from a dad in an all girl house...enjoy the ride while learning patience...It will all work out for the better!!!!
 

spiderwoman

Active Member
I'm here when ever you need me. I'm glad the increase of formula worked for you :) Most time there is a simple reason for the cry... hunger, gas, needing diaper change after No 2, needs holding, or just plain and simple tired. When the feeding doesn't stop the cry, just turn down lights, turn TV off or at least the volume down and calm the surroundings. It's amazing how that calms a crying baby.
I had to find all sorts of ways to calm 2 crying 6 day olds when hubby got back on the road. Basically all I did was stay in bed with my laptop (still working) with a supply of water and juice for me, snacks and stuff to eat and my pump. Girls slept most of the time, but I gave up on cleaning the house and just lived for providing for the girls. I would have given anything to have family around, but we aren't that lucky. My Mom is already gone, Dad is in Finland and hubby's both parents are already gone too.
 
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