Well played Israel, well played...

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vinnyraptor

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what a disgrace, attacking aid ships in international waters. it's about time people wake up in regards to Israel and their treatment of the Palestinians. the U.S. will always be allies with Israel, my hope is that the U.N. and the rest of the world will openly criticize this act of piracy and hold them accountable.
 
ironeagle2006

ironeagle2006

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Excuse me Vinnie but those so called Relief people KNEW they were going into a Blockaded AREA which means all ships ARE SUBJECT TO SEARCH. Then they Attacked the Boarding Party with Knives

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and GUNS YES 2 PISTOLS were used AGAINST THE Isreali Naval Commado team that boarded FIRST. Yet the Arabs are the ones SCREAMING THEY ARE THE VICTIMS SORRY I AM NOT BUYING THIS BRIDGE FOR A DOLLAR. They are lucky the Ships are Still afloat.
 
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vinnyraptor

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the facts are that aid ships were illegally boarded in INTERNATIONAL WATERS. that my friend is piracy. if it were Somali's it would be called what it is, but since it was done by the Israeli navy... you cannot legally blockade an area in international waters ! those aid ships had every right to be there and the Israeli navy had no right to come aboard in the first place. if this happened in Israeli waters then yes they had EVERY RIGHT to search and sieze, but it didn't and a duck is a duck. meaning this is and was an act of piracy.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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I think it's about time for the UN, who is responsible for this whole friggin fiasco in the first place to step up and create a workable solution that is fair to both sides. Short of that I find it hard to find a lot of fault with Israel who is trying to create peace with countries and people who wont accept their right to exist as a country.
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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I must have read the original story wrong. There were multiple ships being inspected to make sure there are no weapons. It is a common thing. The last ship did not comply and the people on the ship started the attack, they did not want the ship inspected.
I need to go find that story. Otherwise someone seems to be picking a fight with Israel maybe??
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/3274627
I must have read the original story wrong. There were multiple ships being inspected to make sure there are no weapons. It is a common thing. The last ship did not comply and the people on the ship started the attack, they did not want the ship inspected.
I need to go find that story. Otherwise someone seems to be picking a fight with Israel maybe??
What I read is the Israelis borded without drawing their arms and were attacked and two of them had their pistols taken and used against them. Another they said they said situation.
 
flower

flower

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You are correct, they were attacked and responded with force. When you are dealing with a crazy bunch that kills themselves and innocent bystanders all around them, they have to double check everyone and everything , which is why there is a restricted area.
If the suicide bombers can’t get past the check points they look for holes in the defenses. Going in by sea would be a perfect in. It isn’t piracy to make sure those entering are not enemies, Israel soldiers wanted to check things out and were met with aggression. That’s my .02
TheclemsonKid: So now that you THINK we basically OWN Iraq, what in the world makes you honestly think you can just up and toss away old standing allies?
Let me explain it this way:
What if you treated your friends that way, only being a buddy while you need them. Don’t you think the NEW buddy will see how you treat no longer needed buddies, and decide to not ever become your buddy and make sure everyone else knows what a two faced jerk it would take to do that? Could any of those "new" buddies ever really be your buddy?
Can America really afford for the world to see them as jerks who only want to be allies while it's not in the hot seat? I think it’s called a fair weather friend, what would happen to us if others treated us that way?
 
lovethesea

lovethesea

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strange, I read, pretty early this morning, well , what I read. Now I can't find that story. 2 stories were clear and the same story. Inspections, compliance with all ships except the last one. Last one did not comply. Now every story I see, with the expection of 1 say nothing of inspections. The one I found wasn't even one of the originals I read. Seems stories have changed.
go figure, stories can't be straight yet.......
 
mantisman51

mantisman51

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Israel gave up the West Bank for peace ( to a people who have NEVER had a country in "Palestine") and were flooded with crazy suicide bombers. They gave up the Gaza Strip for peace (again to a people who have NO historical claim to "Palestine") and were shelled by Iranian rockets. They have interdicted dozens of "relief ships" loaded with mortars, rockets/launchers, automatic weapons and more ammunition than you'd need in wartime. Because of this they are blockading Gaza. Israel has every right to protect their citizens. The Palestinians have no right to arm themselves when Israel has caved in over and over and all the Palestinians do is use Israels goodwill to restock and prepare for another attack. So Clemson, was it Israelis or Palestinians who danced in the streets celebrating the 9/11 attacks? Remember these words Clemson, "NEVER AGAIN!" The Jews will not be lambs to the slaughter ever again. It is the cowardly Muslims who are smuggling weapons of war in "humanitarian supplies". That isn't Israels fault and they have every right to protect themselves. You really want to align yourself with cowards who send their young to kill themselves and innocent Israelis and celebrate the deaths of your fellow citizens, Clemson? Really?
 
beth

beth

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The aide ships contained Palestinian activists whose sole purpose for running the blockade was to garnish international attention and create an incident. The Israelis have the right to inspect the ships and stop the ships. The Israelis, in fact, offered to tote the aide supplies themselves to Palestinians, but, NO, that would certainly not do. How would the Palestinian activists be able to create a media incident if they just allowed the Israelis to haul the supplies??
The boat activist started attacking as soon as Israeli soldiers started to board their boat. If all they were interested in was getting supplies over to Palestine, then why start shooting? The other boats that were stopped, did not start firing on the Israelis.
Yeah, we may own Iraq, but the Israelis are our own long-time FRIENDS and allies. They are not just a foothold for the USA in the Middle East. If it came down to a all-out war over there, the Israelis would be our front men, and would joyously fill those shoes. Iraq and Afghanistan will never be our friends no matter that we "own" the country. To them, we are the enemy.
The situation in the Middle East is very complex. Before throwing our decades long allies under the bus, it wouldn't hurt if we tried to be a tad more informed.
 
ironeagle2006

ironeagle2006

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Actually if the Middle East ever went all out. Iran would find out what a ThremoNuclear Explosion felt like real fast. Everyone in the Middle East knows that Isreal has them however it is the USA that KEEPS THEM FROM USING THEM. Now with the Current Idiot in the White house that Bends over more than Jenna Jameason did during her Career as a Film star to Apoligize they would be like SCREW YOU and use them. They have the planes that can reach there the IAF will get thru easily and no way in hell would Iran stand a chance in a toe to toe match against the IAF. Isreal and the USA are the ONLY countries to WIN 2 front wars the IDF forces have done it Multiple times since the 50's
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Where have all the anti-israeli folks gone in this thread. Once again shown Isreal was not the aggressor and they go back into hiding. Go ahead, coback and defend what those aboard the "aid" ship did. Just try to justify it...try....pretty please.
 
beth

beth

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My theory is that that some Muslims are abundantly overjoyed to martyr themselves for their causes; and that is what it looks like to me in this situation. If the motive was purely altruistic, to get aid to Palestinians, then why not do it legally and in a way that would assure that the aid got through?
No media event and condemnation generated from that now, is there?
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Beth
http:///forum/post/3274917
My theory is that that some Muslims are abundantly overjoyed to martyr themselves for their causes; and that is what it looks like to me in this situation. If the motive was purely altruistic, to get aid to Palestinians, then why not do it legally and in a way that would assure that the aid got through?
No media event and condemnation generated from that now, is there?
Just like the photoshopped pictures for the damage from a retaliation from hezbollah rockets. This is nothing more than a premeditated attempt at smearing Israel and generating ill will against that country. That and maybe an attempt at disarming Israel...
 
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