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darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Fish Taco. Can you describe your idea of a religious extremist? I see many people use this term rather loosely. I am just curious what you perceive one to be. I don't need examples of people, I prefer a description of actions and such.
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3275574
Fish Taco. Can you describe your idea of a religious extremist? I see many people use this term rather loosely. I am just curious what you perceive one to be. I don't need examples of people, I prefer a description of actions and such.
Pretty much anyone who would use their religion for an excuse to promote war, hate or violence does it for me Darth.
Fishtaco
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275580
Pretty much anyone who would use their religion for an excuse to promote war, hate or violence does it for me Darth.
Fishtaco
What is the difference between a conservative extremist (seen this term more and more lately) and a religious extremist?
second question...has the term religoius extremist brought more distrust to religions in general. Wouldn't nutjob or psychopath suffice to get the point across without involving the religion itself? After all, it isn't the religion, but how the individual interprets it...sort of like the constitution now days.
Wait...I just created a new party...constitional extremists...who wants in?
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3275587
What is the difference between a conservative extremist (seen this term more and more lately) and a religious extremist?
second question...has the term religoius extremist brought more distrust to religions in general. Wouldn't nutjob or psychopath suffice to get the point across without involving the religion itself? After all, it isn't the religion, but how the individual interprets it...sort of like the constitution now days.
Wait...I just created a new party...constitional extremists...who wants in?

I don't know if I believe conservative extremist is a stand alone term I have seen before as they always seem linked with religion around here and I would reserve that for those who want our government replaced with a religous theocracy. I would qualify the hate/violence because you only need to look how badly that type of government works regardless of which religion it is.
I would agree with this if it is a lone individual, but a group with these views probably qualifies as religious extremism. I don't trust organized religion that much, so I would say it has not made me more distrustful than I was before. I can list a lot of examples to qualify my distrust, but you know that already so I won't.
The thing about religion is I practice my faith myself, within my small family or the occasional chance to practice it through an act of kindness or generosity without having to give a reason for the act and think a great many of our problems could go away if others would do the same.
Fishtaco
 
darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275594
I would agree with this if it is a lone individual, but a group with these views probably qualifies as religious extremism. I don't trust organized religion that much, so I would say it has not made me more distrustful than I was before. I can list a lot of examples to qualify my distrust, but you know that already so I won't.
I am willing to bet if you look at it, it isnt the religion you distrust, but the people explaining or controlling it...
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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This whole argument (you're not the guy who thought this up taco so I'm not saying you personally) is just an attempt at censorship of a movement that doesn't vote for Democrats. Democrats have problem with any demographic that votes for them. Dems have no problem imposing atheistic views on people, like removing crosses from war memorials, getting rid of christmas trees etc. They have no problems with unions, Mexican presidents, or just about any other demographic giving their input into things, but the moment a christian conservative opens their mouth. The fur starts flying.
you know Fishtaco, I find it funny, Nancy basically said she was led by God in her policy decisions... Where is your criticism of that?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/66208 (First article that popped up in google sorry for the source)
 
reefraff

reefraff

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I think Nancy Pelosi's meds are out of balance. She's made a few statements recently that would make a crack addict seem sensible.
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/3275607
This whole argument (you're not the guy who thought this up taco so I'm not saying you personally) is just an attempt at censorship of a movement that doesn't vote for Democrats. Democrats have problem with any demographic that votes for them. Dems have no problem imposing atheistic views on people, like removing crosses from war memorials, getting rid of christmas trees etc. They have no problems with unions, Mexican presidents, or just about any other demographic giving their input into things, but the moment a christian conservative opens their mouth. The fur starts flying.
you know Fishtaco, I find it funny, Nancy basically said she was led by God in her policy decisions... Where is your criticism of that?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/66208 (First article that popped up in google sorry for the source)
I had not seen that before, my criticism is that she just like Palin has no right nor reason to try and further their political careers by using religion that way. I'm glad your not talking about me, because I am getting tired of telling you I am not a dem nor a rep. I don't like Christmas trees, but it is because I think it is a waste of land that could be used for something more productive, don't like killing trees for that purpose and can't understand how that 12 ft fir dead and useless can be had for 10 dollars around here or even free the night before Christmas, yet the same tree in a pot at a nursery is 50 bucks. I do however put up a nice display of lights. I also think the people who try and get the war memorial crosses removed are taking things way too far.
I can understand though that you and I have a hard time understanding each other, Texas and Oregon might as well be two foriegn countries.

Fishtaco (drove across Texas on a bus)
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275618
I had not seen that before, my criticism is that she just like Palin has no right nor reason to try and further their political careers by using religion that way. I'm glad your not talking about me, because I am getting tired of telling you I am not a dem nor a rep. I don't like Christmas trees, but it is because I think it is a waste of land that could be used for something more productive, don't like killing trees for that purpose and can't understand how that 12 ft fir dead and useless can be had for 10 dollars around here or even free the night before Christmas, yet the same tree in a pot at a nursery is 50 bucks. I do however put up a nice display of lights. I also think the people who try and get the war memorial crosses removed are taking things way too far.
I can understand though that you and I have a hard time understanding each other, Texas and Oregon might as well be two foriegn countries.

Fishtaco (drove across Texas on a bus)
Well scrooge
, (no christmas tree?)
Palin went to church long before she got elected to the school board or whatever she got elected to first and she dang sure wouldn't have gone to an AG church if she was doing it for political reasons.
And yet another argument you make that lines right up with the dems...
I hope it wasn't a grey hound that woulda sucked. that is a LOOOONG Drive.
Ruben (I have an artificial tree I'm not gonna kill a tree either just to toss it out in a month)
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275618
I had not seen that before, my criticism is that she just like Palin has no right nor reason to try and further their political careers by using religion that way. I'm glad your not talking about me, because I am getting tired of telling you I am not a dem nor a rep. I don't like Christmas trees, but it is because I think it is a waste of land that could be used for something more productive, don't like killing trees for that purpose and can't understand how that 12 ft fir dead and useless can be had for 10 dollars around here or even free the night before Christmas, yet the same tree in a pot at a nursery is 50 bucks. I do however put up a nice display of lights. I also think the people who try and get the war memorial crosses removed are taking things way too far.
I can understand though that you and I have a hard time understanding each other, Texas and Oregon might as well be two foriegn countries.

Fishtaco (drove across Texas on a bus)
Quit your whining you liberal, Commie Pinko Democrat rat bass turd

Reef(I don't take myself seriously, why should you?)Raff
 
oscardeuce

oscardeuce

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I can't believe this is happening again. Remeber back in 1985, Israel bordered that cruise ship the Achille Lauro, then killed and threw overboard that wheelchair bound American.
Oh wait, it was the Palistinians. They killed the Jewish American.
 
mantisman51

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A quote from a religious extremist:
"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors."
George Washington-the man who could have been king.
 
mantisman51

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Another religious extremist who let his religion cloud his political decisions:
"Near eighty years ago we began by declaring that all men are created equal; but now from that beginning we have run down to the other declaration, that for SOME men to enslave OTHERS is a "sacred right of self-government." These principles can not stand together. They are as opposite as God and mammon; and whoever holds to the one, must despise the other."
Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854 (CWAL II: 275)
 
oscardeuce

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3275701
Another religious extremist who let his religion cloud his political decisions:
"Near eighty years ago we began by declaring that all men are created equal; but now from that beginning we have run down to the other declaration, that for SOME men to enslave OTHERS is a "sacred right of self-government." These principles can not stand together. They are as opposite as God and mammon; and whoever holds to the one, must despise the other."
Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854 (CWAL II: 275)

You keep quoting founding fathers and they'll put you in the same interment camp with Glenn Beck.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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you should go read the the federalist papers, the guys who were on the side of a centralized federal government, make the libertarians look like Liberals...
 
fishtaco

fishtaco

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Originally Posted by mantisman51
http:///forum/post/3275701
Another religious extremist who let his religion cloud his political decisions:
"Near eighty years ago we began by declaring that all men are created equal; but now from that beginning we have run down to the other declaration, that for SOME men to enslave OTHERS is a "sacred right of self-government." These principles can not stand together. They are as opposite as God and mammon; and whoever holds to the one, must despise the other."
Abraham Lincoln, Speech at Peoria, Illinois, on October 16, 1854 (CWAL II: 275)
That's fine with me, I am talking about using God for political gain. Like when a guy like John Ensign uses family values to get elected, Larry Craig with his anti-gay stance or Mark Safford and his trips to South America and we know how all that turned out. Unfortunately I would be hard pressed to find a politician at that level that talks the talk and actually walks the walk.
Fishtaco
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275938
That's fine with me, I am talking about using God for political gain. Like when a guy like John Ensign uses family values to get elected, Larry Craig with his anti-gay stance or Mark Safford and his trips to South America and we know how all that turned out. Unfortunately I would be hard pressed to find a politician at that level that talks the talk and actually walks the walk.
Fishtaco
Seeing their insulation, we could never tell...
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by Fishtaco
http:///forum/post/3275938
That's fine with me, I am talking about using God for political gain. Like when a guy like John Ensign uses family values to get elected, Larry Craig with his anti-gay stance or Mark Safford and his trips to South America and we know how all that turned out. Unfortunately I would be hard pressed to find a politician at that level that talks the talk and actually walks the walk.
Fishtaco
You are right there. Mr. Transparency Obama who is looking quite Nixonian at this point, Mr. tax fairness Rangle who dodged paying his own taxes, Mr. Loan fairness Chris Dodd who took a sweetheart loan deal then opposed the Bush plan to increase oversight of banks. I find their transgressions as being much greater than a person who preaches family values then falls short in their personal life. Marc Foley was preying on underage pages so his was a different deal. Of course in the 80's when Jerry Studds was caught taking an underaged page out of the country the Democrats punished him by re electing him like 5 more times.
 
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