What is Success ??

mimzy

mimzy

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Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2837149
is this not a personal attack... or is it just a joke???
conceded. and no, that is not a personal attack, that is my unique and endearing way of telling Crimzy that he's a cool dude.
 
mimzy

mimzy

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2837159
Don't you two start throwing me for a loop and getting all NICE on me.

I appreciate the words, and I am very proud of my accomplishments. I am also very happy with my life. But I guess my point is that I'm not THERE yet. THERE will be seeing my girls marry good people, have families of their own, going through all the ups and downs of my marriage and celebrating my golden years with the woman that I vowed to spend the rest of my life with, and achieving great things professionally.
Probably goes back to a distinction that Mimzy made earlier. You are looking at "success" as a lifestyle, while I am looking at it as a result. Or something like that...
awesome! so Crimzy is happy with who he is becomING, and he's looking forward to where he is goING, and the rest of us are also happy with the same thing, and we are all just using different words to describe it!! And in the end, we all realized it was semantics and silly...
AND THAT IT WAS CFR WHO STARTED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!! AHAH!!!!
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2837159
Don't you two start throwing me for a loop and getting all NICE on me.

I appreciate the words, and I am very proud of my accomplishments. I am also very happy with my life. But I guess my point is that I'm not THERE yet. THERE will be seeing my girls marry good people, have families of their own, going through all the ups and downs of my marriage and celebrating my golden years with the woman that I vowed to spend the rest of my life with, and achieving great things professionally.
Probably goes back to a distinction that Mimzy made earlier. You are looking at "success" as a lifestyle, while I am looking at it as a result. Or something like that...
LOL sorry, we didn't mean to be "nice" or anything like that
IMHO you are looking at it all wrong. What if you died tomorrow? You are not a success in life? I think that you are and I am sure your family would agree. You have achieved so much. You are not done achieving, neither am I. I won't be done until I am gone. How can anyone ever be "done achieving"? You can't unless you have no will left in you.
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by Mimzy
http:///forum/post/2837174
awesome! so Crimzy is happy with who he is becomING, and he's looking forward to where he is goING, and the rest of us are also happy with the same thing, and we are all just using different words to describe it!! And in the end, we all realized it was semantics and silly...
AND THAT IT WAS CFR WHO STARTED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!! AHAH!!!!

Semantics and silly??? This was way better than anything on TV tonight. Anyway, gotta go. Getting up early to "... ONLY care about myself, the retainer and the numerous payment to follow all the while twisting words, truths and laws..."

I'll check back tomorrow.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2837181
Semantics and silly??? This was way better than anything on TV tonight. Anyway, gotta go. Getting up early to "... ONLY care about myself, the retainer and the numerous payment to follow all the while twisting words, truths and laws..."

I'll check back tomorrow.

Oiy, don't we know it
 
yearofthenick

yearofthenick

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I can see the value in both sides of your arguments, Crimzy and Mimzy.
I can see where crimzy doesn't feel "educated" enough to truly decide if he's successful or not, because he still has to live 28 more years before he can really say for sure if he's been successful. I actually agree that I can't decide for myself if I'm ever going to be truly successful.
BUT, I think the word you're looking for crimzy is satisfaction. Not a negative term at all. When you're 60 and all of you're kids are grown and married, you'll find much satisfaction in knowing they're taken care of. You'll likely have a nice nest-egg saved up so there's some more satisfaction. And because you're 32 and not 60, it is understandable for you to be "unsatisfied" with the status-quo - again, not a negative thought at all. That is why you are so driven, because you want to be better and better every day, out-doing yourself.
I am exactly the same way. I feel I can always be achieving more, and am never "satisfied" or "comfortable" with the status-quo. Where can I do better? Where can I go above and beyond my job to really make a difference? Those are questions I ask myself almost daily. It's a passion for living that keeps you hungry for more... more knowledge, more of a grasp on life, more leadership, more promotion... a real "go-getter" as my grandfather would say. Again, very honorable.
But Merriam-Webster defines success as an acheivement, and I can see where crimzy is coming from where the REAL achievement isn't going to happen until you're retired.
But again, success is an acheivement. And we acheive things every day. Success and failure is built into the fabric of time, since the beginning of time (please, no theological debate).
I see success not as a singular determination, but instead as thousands of determinations over the course of one's life. For me, sometimes I'm a success, sometimes I fail. But I'm always learning and growing... especially when I fail.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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I see success not as a singular determination, but instead as thousands of determinations over the course of one's life. For me, sometimes I'm a success, sometimes I fail. But I'm always learning and growing... especially when I fail.
Nicely put! That is how I feel too.
 
yearofthenick

yearofthenick

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As for whether or not I am a success, I can't say for sure. As I said earlier, I don't care so much about success as I do about becoming a better person every day.
Example: Hurricane Katrina ravaged Mississippi and Louisiana pretty badly. In light of that, we were able to start an organization called "Operation: Katrina" (not very original, I know, but you get the point) and we raised hundreds of thousands of dollars to build 16 new homes in MS. We had over a thousand people physically from all over and build the framework for these homes here in California and we shipped them via freight to McComb, MS where we assembled them. It was a two-week undertaking, and I was there for both weeks, every day helping to assemble the homes. We named the subdivision "Victory Park." A lot of the money was spent to pay off the land and the costs of the building materials so we could get homeless people in there for almost nothing.
Was that a success? I wouldn't label it a "success" because it all rooted itself out of a desire to do something more than what was expected to be "normal living" for everyone that helped out. People wanted to go above and beyond what they were capable of to build these homes and they did. I know when I leave this earth, I can't take anything with me except for the satisfaction in knowing that i helped fellow americans get through a horribly tough time. This is among the many things that fuel my desire to work harder every day. Successful? I dunno, I never thought of it that way. Satisfying? Absolutely
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by crimzy
http:///forum/post/2836919
Why be satisfied?
Once you've gotten there, you're pretty much done.
It is possible to reach that point in life where you can be content where you are but that doesn't mean you stop trying to better yourself. The thing to remember is once you reach that point you need to reassess your priorities. You have young kids (or kid, can't remember which) and while you want to provide the best future for them you don't want to get so wrapped up in reaching for the brass ring you miss watching them grow up.
It is possible to have a great family like and be a greedy capitalist pig, just don't lose sight of what's really important. Cars and big houses are just stuff. If you can't take the time to enjoy them what good are they?
 
crimzy

crimzy

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Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2837218
I can see the value in both sides of your arguments, Crimzy and Mimzy.
I can see where crimzy doesn't feel "educated" enough to truly decide if he's successful or not, because he still has to live 28 more years before he can really say for sure if he's been successful. I actually agree that I can't decide for myself if I'm ever going to be truly successful.
BUT, I think the word you're looking for crimzy is satisfaction. Not a negative term at all. When you're 60 and all of you're kids are grown and married, you'll find much satisfaction in knowing they're taken care of. You'll likely have a nice nest-egg saved up so there's some more satisfaction. And because you're 32 and not 60, it is understandable for you to be "unsatisfied" with the status-quo - again, not a negative thought at all. That is why you are so driven, because you want to be better and better every day, out-doing yourself.
I am exactly the same way. I feel I can always be achieving more, and am never "satisfied" or "comfortable" with the status-quo. Where can I do better? Where can I go above and beyond my job to really make a difference? Those are questions I ask myself almost daily. It's a passion for living that keeps you hungry for more... more knowledge, more of a grasp on life, more leadership, more promotion... a real "go-getter" as my grandfather would say. Again, very honorable.
But Merriam-Webster defines success as an acheivement, and I can see where crimzy is coming from where the REAL achievement isn't going to happen until you're retired.
But again, success is an acheivement. And we acheive things every day. Success and failure is built into the fabric of time, since the beginning of time (please, no theological debate).
I see success not as a singular determination, but instead as thousands of determinations over the course of one's life. For me, sometimes I'm a success, sometimes I fail. But I'm always learning and growing... especially when I fail.
Well stated.
 
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