What to buy for hair algae

jw1977

Member
I'm battling a hair algae outbreak. I've taken the powerheads out and cleaned as best as possible, on my rocks i've justed picked out as much as i can. no matter what i do it keeps coming back. I'm using ro water. I purchased an emerald crab as well as a star blenny. I see the blenny occasionally nip at the algae but for the most part he stays away from it. I've never seen the emerald crabl touch the algae. I was thinking of purchasing a dolabella sea hare. Will this work, do i need more than one? Also, what about another type of crab? Like a sally lightfoot?
 

todj2002

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Originally Posted by jw1977
http:///forum/post/3159321
I'm battling a hair algae outbreak. I've taken the powerheads out and cleaned as best as possible, on my rocks i've justed picked out as much as i can. no matter what i do it keeps coming back. I'm using ro water. I purchased an emerald crab as well as a star blenny. I see the blenny occasionally nip at the algae but for the most part he stays away from it. I've never seen the emerald crabl touch the algae. I was thinking of purchasing a dolabella sea hare. Will this work, do i need more than one? Also, what about another type of crab? Like a sally lightfoot?
one hundred blue leg hermits. check the auction site.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by TODJ2002
http:///forum/post/3159329
one hundred blue leg hermits. check the auction site.

LOL....what else will they eat though????
I'm about to order some Kent M magnesium and try to raise the magnesium....I have tried everything in my 225G
 

rigdon87

Member
Originally Posted by jw1977
http:///forum/post/3159321
I'm battling a hair algae outbreak. I've taken the powerheads out and cleaned as best as possible, on my rocks i've justed picked out as much as i can. no matter what i do it keeps coming back. I'm using ro water. I purchased an emerald crab as well as a star blenny. I see the blenny occasionally nip at the algae but for the most part he stays away from it. I've never seen the emerald crabl touch the algae. I was thinking of purchasing a dolabella sea hare. Will this work, do i need more than one? Also, what about another type of crab? Like a sally lightfoot?
Iv'e never heard of a star blennie. what you should of got was a lawnmower blennie.emerald crabs are really good at clearin out bubble algea though i don't kno about hair algae. most sea hares don't last long in the aquarium as from what i understand their diets change with their age.the only person i kno who has been succesful with one is coral keeper,you can shoot him a p.m if your gonna go that route but as stated by tod hermits are good but IME turbos do a better job.
what are your parameters?
what do you feed and how often?
lighting sch.?
wc shc.?
 

jw1977

Member
I actually had a lawnmower blenny and he lasted 4 days which I hear is common. My LFS talked me into the star blenny. I have probably 20 blue legged hermits and i've never seen them touch the hair algae. I didn't realize that sea hare's were so hard to take care of. When you say Turbo's do a better job to Mexican Turbo Snails or the smaller turbo snails? Thanks for your quick responses.
 

rigdon87

Member
Mexican turbos are better but they are only avialable in warmer weather.but astrea turbos will mow the stuff down like theres no tomorow i definatly prefer them over any crab.just watch them with your hermits they like to kill the turbos and steal their shell
 

rgf1046

Member
I have had great results with the big Mexican Turbos. Never had blennies, emerald crabs, or hermits touch it.
 

smoothie

Member
What are you params and what test kit are you using? Maybe get another hobbiest or your lfs to check the water first. How much are you feeding? Try to cut back on that and your photo period as much as you can. Just some steps to help you slow it down.
Also frozen or dry foods?
 
J

jesse!

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green hair algae is grown by your nitrates and phosphates, get rid of them and you will get rid of the algae. If your running a canister go to your LFS and get some nitrates and phosphate remover made by fluval works great. Or do 10% water changes every week and the algae will jut fall off.
 

johnr2604

Member
I think we need to figure out what kind of "hair algea" you have. It seams that hair algea has become a blanket term for green hair algea, Derbesia and bryopsis. The treatments for all these are totally different. You got a pic?
 

jw1977

Member
I have green hair algae. I'm feeding every other day. I alternate between pellots and mysis. The filter I use is an emperror 400 and the tank is a 46 gallon. I've also tried running my lights not as much but that hasn't made any difference. Do Astrea turbo's really mow hair algae down? I have some but I've never seen them touch the stuff.
 

johnr2604

Member
Originally Posted by jw1977
http:///forum/post/3159592
I have green hair algae. I'm feeding every other day. I alternate between pellots and mysis. The filter I use is an emperror 400 and the tank is a 46 gallon. I've also tried running my lights not as much but that hasn't made any difference. Do Astrea turbo's really mow hair algae down? I have some but I've never seen them touch the stuff.
I didn't ask what you have, I asked for a picture. These algeas look very close and many times when people cant get rid of it they have misidentified it. Like I said the treatments are completely different. Our reefclub just had a speaker from seachem give an entire presentation on bryopsis and hair algea. Plus I have done extensive research on the matter.YOU GOT A PIC?
 

nycbob

Active Member
once u hv hair algae, its very hard to eradicate even if u lower phosphate. hair algae can thrive even even at very low phosphate level. doing more water change can help. from my personal experience, u need to get a dolabella sea hare at this site. it does a great job of eating it. i got one when i ran into hair algae issue way back. its still living in my tank currently eating away at regular algae. some people cant keep one alive. i havent had any issue with it.
 

pbnj

Member
Sea Hares are the jam in my jelly roll.

Put one in 2 hours ago and he's already going to town on the GHA!
 

johnr2604

Member
Originally Posted by pbnj
http:///forum/post/3159614
Better?
Yep, that looks like green hair. Mexican Turbos do a really good job. As also recomended sea hairs work also. Be sure everything is mounted good because both of these are bulldozers

Bryopsis and derbesia are another story. Nothing eats them except for maybe a lettuce nudibranch. Problem with them is they almost always get caught in powerheads and die plus they cant keep up with the growth. Another factor is there are 20 different species of derbesia and 50 different species of bryopsis. We only encounter about 10 different species of bryopsis in the hobby but they require different treatments. Derbesia looks the closet to green hair and might even be worse than bryopsis. A lot of people mix the three up and that is why hair algea has become a blanket term between them.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
To me, adding things to your tank to help fight hair algae is like trying to make a 500 horsepower sports car fuel efficient. The bottom line is that it takes a certain amount of fuel/air mixture to make 500hp. There's no getting around that.
With hair algae (of any type) is a result from excess nutrients in your tank. Adding something which will only further increase that bioload, just seems counter-intuitive.
Start with the basics, replace your lights if they're older then 8 months, up your water changes, and reevaluate your current bioload. Unfortunately even moderately stocked tanks seem over the threshold point with hair algae, and there's just not too much we can do.
I battled hair algae in my 125g after the halides stayed on for 48 hours. Nothing was working, and knowing what I said above, decided to give the algae turf scrubber a try instead of adding inverts, which I know my puffer would have killed anyway. Within a week, I was noticing results, and by 3 weeks my tank looked much better. It was enough to 'break' the hold of the hair algae. About 2 months later when the feed pump died, I removed the ATS and the hair algae didn't return.
My thoughts are that if you can't win over the algae, try to redirect it, and the ATS allows you to control it (its not like turf algae can spread to your tank). If you have a real tank that's easy to give one a try (not like a sumpless nano), I would really suggest it.
 
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