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pontius

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Originally Posted by Chano
That was technically not a war as congress never declared it to be. At best it was a "conflict" (in technical terms). So although i cannot say for sure what they ment technically they would be correct.
they are not technically correct about anything. the US Congress does not decide what is a war. war has existed far longer than Congress. they can call Vietnam whatever they want, but an armed conflict between 2 sides that claims hundreds of thousands of lives is most definitely a war.
 

reefraff

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Originally Posted by maddog0118
president hillary was first lady
if hillary is preident what is bill clinton
Divorced
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by Pontius
they are not technically correct about anything. the US Congress does not decide what is a war. war has existed far longer than Congress. they can call Vietnam whatever they want, but an armed conflict between 2 sides that claims hundreds of thousands of lives is most definitely a war.
Yes Vietnam and Iraq meet the dictionary definition of war but they do not meet the Constitutional definition of war unless Congress declares war.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
Actually I believe he will position himself to be made a supreme court justice. Don't laugh, former presidents have done it once in the past, And she will most likely get to choose a replacement if she get's in office.
No my friend, his aspirations go far beyond that...
Look for him to angle for UN Secretary General.
 

dogstar

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Originally Posted by Bang Guy
Yes Vietnam and Iraq meet the dictionary definition of war but they do not meet the Constitutional definition of war unless Congress declares war.
Constitutional definition of war.....

The Constitution uses the terms " engageing in war ", " levying war " as well as " declare war ". It does not use the term technically or give a definition of any of thoses terms.
It does not prohibit the President from either of the first two without the third or from vetoing or acting or not acting on the third. It does give Congress power over the money and setting some of the rules for the military and war, ect.
I think the Foundeing Fathers as well as " most " people understand what they all mean.
I agree Congress never " declared war " on the Viet Cong. But the US did engage/levied war. Technically or defined, or what ever term people want to use next, to " not " call that a war, for whatever reason they do that.
Call it a " Un-declared by Congress War ". Thats what it was. At least that way your still calling it a war.
The Constitution does not describe a method to " declare war " it just says that Congress has the power to do that. It does not say that the President can or can not do the same. Only that a State can not. And nowdays, the Congress uses a " congressional authorization of force " ( which Iraq has ). IMO, a kind of go ahead if you want to declaration of war....
 

notsonoob

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Originally Posted by renogaw
that's right, i forgot he's the reason they changed that.
Actually, I beleive that it was always two terms, except for that period in time when the world was in great peril. Then it was changed back.
Whoops...mistaken.
It was the 22nd amendment past March of 1947 and ratified in 1951.
I do remember that George Washington was called for the third term but declined.
 

darthtang aw

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
No my friend, his aspirations go far beyond that...
Look for him to angle for UN Secretary General.

I have considered that as well, but i believe he will see a job on the supreme court as a way to be more known in history. In thes country you can name atleast one supreme court justice. But can you without looking it up name a UN Secretary Genewral from the U.S.?
This is why I feel he will angle for Supreme court, it will add to his legacy more so.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
I have considered that as well, but i believe he will see a job on the supreme court as a way to be more known in history. In thes country you can name atleast one supreme court justice. But can you without looking it up name a UN Secretary Genewral from the U.S.?
This is why I feel he will angle for Supreme court, it will add to his legacy more so.
Good point.
I think, however, he's afraid he has too much baggage for a SC nomination. Otoh, on the world stage his indiscrections were mostly ignored.
I don't know... you could very well be right, but I'm still putting my money on the UN.
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
I have considered that as well, but i believe he will see a job on the supreme court as a way to be more known in history. In thes country you can name atleast one supreme court justice. But can you without looking it up name a UN Secretary Genewral from the U.S.?
This is why I feel he will angle for Supreme court, it will add to his legacy more so.
Supreme Court?? This man comitted purgery, he lied under oath. He couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. Who's he going to find to nominate him? The wife he cheated on?
 

gnorman

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in my senior year of HS this is what my American Government class came up with.
if Hillary does win the Democratic Primary and runs for presient, then she will elect Bill as Vice President. then if hillary wins and becomes the president of the united states, bill will of course be right there along her side; but no, not for long. Bill will call someone in to kill Hillary and then Bill will become the president again.... just a lil fun activity we came up with ( and my gosh i hope it doesnt come to that ) kind of stupid and immature but hey, thats how my class was.
 

dogstar

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Originally Posted by GNorman
in my senior year of HS this is what my American Government class came up with.
if Hillary does win the Democratic Primary and runs for presient, then she will elect Bill as Vice President. then if hillary wins and becomes the president of the united states, bill will of course be right there along her side; but no, not for long. Bill will call someone in to kill Hillary and then Bill will become the president again.... just a lil fun activity we came up with ( and my gosh i hope it doesnt come to that ) kind of stupid and immature but hey, thats how my class was.
maybe so...Im not sure if the 22 amendment would prevent that and Nancy would get the job.....theres a thought.
 

srgvigil

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If hillary was to be wacked during her presidency would anyone but her supporters really care? I wouldn't show any signs of remorse I hate Hillary.
 

bang guy

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Originally Posted by GNorman
in my senior year of HS this is what my American Government class came up with.
if Hillary does win the Democratic Primary and runs for presient, then she will elect Bill as Vice President. then if hillary wins and becomes the president of the united states, bill will of course be right there along her side; but no, not for long. Bill will call someone in to kill Hillary and then Bill will become the president again.... just a lil fun activity we came up with ( and my gosh i hope it doesnt come to that ) kind of stupid and immature but hey, thats how my class was.
I must admit, that's interesting.
 

gnorman

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haha yeah we all were dying of laughter when we thought of it. my did we have some good times in that class.
 

vampofvegas

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Jon Lovitz does a great joke about Hilary being president..
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Then the link is not appropriate here. Sorry.
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