White spots?
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mind83
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WTF!!! I'm really starting to get pissed with this whole saltwater fish tank. I just want to have some fish that swim and stay alive and are happy. I googled ich and yes that is what it looks like. Is there any thing I can do to get rid of this? Or is it basically a death sentence to all of my fish? Please help I don't want all of my fish to die.
btldreef
Moderator
Well, let's start with this:
Pictures will be the most helpful since you're unsure of what is in your tank and what is running your tank. Most of us can tell you what you are running just from a picture.
How old is the tank?
How much rock is in there?
What fish are in the tank?
What are you water parameters? (Nitrate, Temperature, pH, etc)
What do you feed?
Is there any way for you to set up a quarantine tank?
Do you have an invertebrates? (Corals/shrimp/snails/anemones/crabs)
Pictures will be the most helpful since you're unsure of what is in your tank and what is running your tank. Most of us can tell you what you are running just from a picture.
How old is the tank?
How much rock is in there?
What fish are in the tank?
What are you water parameters? (Nitrate, Temperature, pH, etc)
What do you feed?
Is there any way for you to set up a quarantine tank?
Do you have an invertebrates? (Corals/shrimp/snails/anemones/crabs)
florida joe
Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by mind83 http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3325213
I'm new here just to point out. Also new to the fish tank world. I have a 55 gallon tank, with a good amount of live rock in it. I also have 6 fish with a sand bottom. I'm not sure what other details to give. Thanks
what are the names of the books you use and used for info into getting started into the hobbby
Originally Posted by mind83 http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3325213
I'm new here just to point out. Also new to the fish tank world. I have a 55 gallon tank, with a good amount of live rock in it. I also have 6 fish with a sand bottom. I'm not sure what other details to give. Thanks
what are the names of the books you use and used for info into getting started into the hobbby
mind83
New Member
http://asset.soup.io/asset/1212/4490_c055_350.jpeg That is the link to the picture of my tank.
I have three snails and one hermit crab. So I can't do the copper thing.
I feed the fish either frozen mix, flakes, or pellets.
All of the Parameters are good I take a sample to the LFS.
Two Clowns, yellow tang, blue hippo tang, PJ cardinal, firefish goby, and orange tail damsel.
I just found out that I cant have tangs so don't need people to yell at me about that.
I haven't read one book on saltwater fish tanks. My girlfriends brother set everything up for us and told me he would help but so far he hasn't done anything. The tank is about 5 months old and things were finally starting to calm down till this ich thing happened.
I have three snails and one hermit crab. So I can't do the copper thing.
I feed the fish either frozen mix, flakes, or pellets.
All of the Parameters are good I take a sample to the LFS.
Two Clowns, yellow tang, blue hippo tang, PJ cardinal, firefish goby, and orange tail damsel.
I just found out that I cant have tangs so don't need people to yell at me about that.
I haven't read one book on saltwater fish tanks. My girlfriends brother set everything up for us and told me he would help but so far he hasn't done anything. The tank is about 5 months old and things were finally starting to calm down till this ich thing happened.
btldreef
Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by mind83 http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326516
Does putting them into fresh water for a couple of minutes really work?
It can. The salt water ich parasite can't survive in fresh water and will "jump off" the fish.
Originally Posted by mind83 http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326516
Does putting them into fresh water for a couple of minutes really work?
It can. The salt water ich parasite can't survive in fresh water and will "jump off" the fish.
lil.guppy
Active Member
Dont dip them in freshwater it will stress them out more and could make it worse...
Sounds like your going to have to take your fish out..put them in a quaratine tank and leave your display empty for a minimum of 8 weeks.
If your constantly getting ick out breaks are you adding new fish without quarantining them? Does your salinity stay stable? How about your temperature of the water? Water perimiters? Any aggression in the tank?
Sounds like your going to have to take your fish out..put them in a quaratine tank and leave your display empty for a minimum of 8 weeks.
If your constantly getting ick out breaks are you adding new fish without quarantining them? Does your salinity stay stable? How about your temperature of the water? Water perimiters? Any aggression in the tank?
mind83
New Member
Salt and temp stay normal. Really only one fish looks bad. A couple have a few spot here and there. Than some of the fish don't have any at all. Right now the only treatment I am giving them is I soak their food in garlic and vitamin C before I feed it to them. They are all eating, even the really bad looking fish. Does anyone have a video on quarantine tank? Like how to set one up, or get this going? I really don't want to lose any of my fish. The only one to show signs of aggression is the fish that is the worst off. He didn't even start that till last night. Is quarantine tank really the only way to go at this point? Thanks for your help.
slice
Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by mind83 http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326819
Ok after reading the link that was provided I have only one question. Do I drop the salt in the tank they currently reside or do I have to make a quarentine tank and drop the salt in that? I wasn't really sure when reading. Thanks for the help.
Re-read post #4 in the thread about Hyposalinity where it says:
NOTE: This procedure can not be performed in an environment containing live rock, deep sand bed (DSB) or inverts [including crabs, snails, corals, etc.] If you have a strictly Fish-Only setup, then the treatment can be done within the display, otherwise, you will need to treat infected fish in a quarantine/hospital tank.
While you are deliberating on how to do this, make sure your fish are getting good nutrition. A good vitamin soak will help them fight the infection.
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326524
It can. The salt water ich parasite can't survive in fresh water and will "jump off" the fish.
This is actually not true. Whatever ick parasite that is killed by using the fresh water dip dies due to Osmotic shock. Also a fresh water dip can help rid some of the parasites no matter when you dip it (before or after it introduced into your DT)
Originally Posted by BTLDreef http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326524
It can. The salt water ich parasite can't survive in fresh water and will "jump off" the fish.
This is actually not true. Whatever ick parasite that is killed by using the fresh water dip dies due to Osmotic shock. Also a fresh water dip can help rid some of the parasites no matter when you dip it (before or after it introduced into your DT)
cranberry
Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326822
This is actually not true. Whatever ick parasite that is killed by using the fresh water dip dies due to Osmotic shock. Also a fresh water dip can help rid some of the parasites no matter when you dip it (before or after it introduced into your DT)
And it doesn't kill all, just those close enough to the surface. It cuts down on the numbers, but it doesn't eliminate the parasite.
Originally Posted by florida joe http:///forum/thread/381602/white-spots#post_3326822
This is actually not true. Whatever ick parasite that is killed by using the fresh water dip dies due to Osmotic shock. Also a fresh water dip can help rid some of the parasites no matter when you dip it (before or after it introduced into your DT)
And it doesn't kill all, just those close enough to the surface. It cuts down on the numbers, but it doesn't eliminate the parasite.
mind83
New Member
Ok who do I believe than? lil.guppy said not to do the fresh water dip the rest of you guys seem to think that this will kill the ich. Why cant I do the salt drop if I have live rock or live sand? I don't have the means to set up a quarantine tank. I have provided a picture earlier of what I have. I am new to this so if someone could just spell out to me what I have to do that would be helpful. Basically talk to me like I'm a ra-tard and help me out please.