who is the suspect
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hammerhed7
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I am also thinking mantis, they are a pain. If you can catch it ship it to me, he can play with my triggers
halostalker
Member
hows it goin did u find something new?
tboy
Member
thanks every one
it's still a nightmare
last 2-3 days my mystery wrasse haven't come out like he normally is
always hanging in one side of the tank all by himself
when i feed pellets to other fishes he won't bother to have some only this morning when i feed them with frozen brine shrimp then he had a couple
i think he's attack by something that why he like that
i really don't think is any fish
it's still a nightmare
last 2-3 days my mystery wrasse haven't come out like he normally is
always hanging in one side of the tank all by himself
when i feed pellets to other fishes he won't bother to have some only this morning when i feed them with frozen brine shrimp then he had a couple
i think he's attack by something that why he like that
i really don't think is any fish
grubsnaek
Active Member
alright, i helped Tboy out setting up this tank, and normally i would tend to think of mantiss too.....
but heres the thing. some of the live rock was transfered from his well established tank, then he got a bunch of live rock from some dude. now the new live rock from this dude, sat in a 55g rubbermaid garbage can for weeks...the levels got out of wack,mag drive pump burnt out in the can, etc, etc.a real horror story with the rock in the garbage can...so when the rock went into the tank, massive die off and basically cleaned to all hell and tossed in to cycle the tank...
so if it was a mantis, wouldnt it show up in the last tank, and if it did hitch hick from this dude, wouldnt the reoccuring problems in the trash can, then cycleing the tank kill this possible mantis...
sorry for the strong contradicting to the mantis theory, but i am close the situation and find it hard for the mantis theory to be a real possibility....
but heres the thing. some of the live rock was transfered from his well established tank, then he got a bunch of live rock from some dude. now the new live rock from this dude, sat in a 55g rubbermaid garbage can for weeks...the levels got out of wack,mag drive pump burnt out in the can, etc, etc.a real horror story with the rock in the garbage can...so when the rock went into the tank, massive die off and basically cleaned to all hell and tossed in to cycle the tank...
so if it was a mantis, wouldnt it show up in the last tank, and if it did hitch hick from this dude, wouldnt the reoccuring problems in the trash can, then cycleing the tank kill this possible mantis...
sorry for the strong contradicting to the mantis theory, but i am close the situation and find it hard for the mantis theory to be a real possibility....
fishygurl
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Originally Posted by grubsnaek
alright, i helped Tboy out setting up this tank, and normally i would tend to think of mantiss too.....
but heres the thing. some of the live rock was transfered from his well established tank, then he got a bunch of live rock from some dude. now the new live rock from this dude, sat in a 55g rubbermaid garbage can for weeks...the levels got out of wack,mag drive pump burnt out in the can, etc, etc.a real horror story with the rock in the garbage can...so when the rock went into the tank, massive die off and basically cleaned to all hell and tossed in to cycle the tank...
so if it was a mantis, wouldnt it show up in the last tank, and if it did hitch hick from this dude, wouldnt the reoccuring problems in the trash can, then cycleing the tank kill this possible mantis...
sorry for the strong contradicting to the mantis theory, but i am close the situation and find it hard for the mantis theory to be a real possibility....
Well how did all these people that have mantis's get in their tank without it cycling?
And mantis have been known to not show up for a year or so.
Could also have been a baby mantis and wasnt big enough to take on big things like fish.
alright, i helped Tboy out setting up this tank, and normally i would tend to think of mantiss too.....
but heres the thing. some of the live rock was transfered from his well established tank, then he got a bunch of live rock from some dude. now the new live rock from this dude, sat in a 55g rubbermaid garbage can for weeks...the levels got out of wack,mag drive pump burnt out in the can, etc, etc.a real horror story with the rock in the garbage can...so when the rock went into the tank, massive die off and basically cleaned to all hell and tossed in to cycle the tank...
so if it was a mantis, wouldnt it show up in the last tank, and if it did hitch hick from this dude, wouldnt the reoccuring problems in the trash can, then cycleing the tank kill this possible mantis...
sorry for the strong contradicting to the mantis theory, but i am close the situation and find it hard for the mantis theory to be a real possibility....
Well how did all these people that have mantis's get in their tank without it cycling?
And mantis have been known to not show up for a year or so.
Could also have been a baby mantis and wasnt big enough to take on big things like fish.
grubsnaek
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not saying that it couldnt be a mantis...but what im sayin, is this...
say the mantis was in his old tank, after moving over then, going through cycle, then go on a mass murder spree...doesnt make sense.
say the mantis was in the new rock, after going through what the rock went through in that trash can, there is absolutely no way anything could survive. i went from over heated, to a mag drive pump burning out heating up the water even, then being stagnet for a while, no water changes, then cycleing...doesnt make sense.
can they (mantis) be this hardy to survive all this...
say the mantis was in his old tank, after moving over then, going through cycle, then go on a mass murder spree...doesnt make sense.
say the mantis was in the new rock, after going through what the rock went through in that trash can, there is absolutely no way anything could survive. i went from over heated, to a mag drive pump burning out heating up the water even, then being stagnet for a while, no water changes, then cycleing...doesnt make sense.
can they (mantis) be this hardy to survive all this...
tboy
Member
hey buddy
what up
you proberly right about the rocks that was in the garbage can but what about those that rocks that was in my establish tank before.
i don't know?
just that a lot of fish that missing, something is really wrong
i have an idea
seen this last couple day everything seem fine.
let me buy a small damsel or something to put it in there to test out
let see how this come out
what up
you proberly right about the rocks that was in the garbage can but what about those that rocks that was in my establish tank before.
i don't know?
just that a lot of fish that missing, something is really wrong
i have an idea
seen this last couple day everything seem fine.
let me buy a small damsel or something to put it in there to test out
let see how this come out
groupergenius
Active Member
So...the Tomato Clowns are still alive? Or have they gotten beat up also?
granny
Member
I just couldnt help but put my two cents in with everyone elses!.
Buy a shrimp trap now and bait it. If youve got a mantis, or crab or anything else, you can trap it.
I would not put in anymore fish at all until this mystery is solved. In my humble opinion, you put way too many tangs into your tank together. I have kept mystery wrasses and others and have not found them to be aggressive/damaging to any other fish, only to inverts, but the fact they are hiding means they are being bullied.
Do you have a friend or good local fish store who will baby sit some of your fish for a while? It wouldnt hurt to pare down your population for a while to keep your remaining fish safe till you catch the culprit who could be a crab as easily as a shrimp or your most aggressive clown tang, t hough I am still feeling shrimp or crab vibes. I had a nasty crab in a piece of live rock who did in my flame hawk, just pinched his gut out. It wasnt a pretty site and I finally trapped him in a trap using smelly old shrimp for bait.
Buy a shrimp trap now and bait it. If youve got a mantis, or crab or anything else, you can trap it.
I would not put in anymore fish at all until this mystery is solved. In my humble opinion, you put way too many tangs into your tank together. I have kept mystery wrasses and others and have not found them to be aggressive/damaging to any other fish, only to inverts, but the fact they are hiding means they are being bullied.
Do you have a friend or good local fish store who will baby sit some of your fish for a while? It wouldnt hurt to pare down your population for a while to keep your remaining fish safe till you catch the culprit who could be a crab as easily as a shrimp or your most aggressive clown tang, t hough I am still feeling shrimp or crab vibes. I had a nasty crab in a piece of live rock who did in my flame hawk, just pinched his gut out. It wasnt a pretty site and I finally trapped him in a trap using smelly old shrimp for bait.
05xrunner
Active Member
Originally Posted by renogaw
you are correct, no popping noise from them.
telltale signs are fish getting nastily slashed up. a tang would normally slice lengthwise wouldn't it? some of those look verticle, which would be perfect sense for a slasher's claws.
Not true...I have a mantis thats a stabber not a smasher and it makes clicking sounds all the time in its den.
you are correct, no popping noise from them.
telltale signs are fish getting nastily slashed up. a tang would normally slice lengthwise wouldn't it? some of those look verticle, which would be perfect sense for a slasher's claws.
Not true...I have a mantis thats a stabber not a smasher and it makes clicking sounds all the time in its den.
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dennis210
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Your tank set up mentions all the fish in the tank. Did you put in any inverts?
I ask as I have witnessed coral banded shrimp (red/white/blue) variety catch and kill fish. I saved a mandatin from it's claws with marks like your photo's show. Two days later he was missing in action, same went for a two spot / paddlefin gobie! Not everything we import into our little microcosms acts as they do in the wild. Many times a mild manner species will change it's diet when starving!
A two month old tank with that much livestock wouldn't even be hitting full stride on the agal cycle. Something to think about.
I ask as I have witnessed coral banded shrimp (red/white/blue) variety catch and kill fish. I saved a mandatin from it's claws with marks like your photo's show. Two days later he was missing in action, same went for a two spot / paddlefin gobie! Not everything we import into our little microcosms acts as they do in the wild. Many times a mild manner species will change it's diet when starving!
A two month old tank with that much livestock wouldn't even be hitting full stride on the agal cycle. Something to think about.