Why carry a gun?

morgan175

morgan175

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MARYLAND LAW HAS CHANGED AND WILL BE ABEL TO CARRY IF NO APPEAL. Yes Yes Yes. The reason so happy for this criminals lose that sense of confidence that this guy cant carry a gun he will be easy to rob. Now they look at me twice and keep walking. If I would attack anyone it would be with a frying pan so they would ban them and the country would go hungry.
 
morgan175

morgan175

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new hobby with my son shooting rockets. how you doing. guns are a good thing don't let anyone tell you anything different.
 
snakeblitz33

snakeblitz33

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Yeah, rockets are fun. Going back to school. Wife got a job. My daughter is almost five months old now. Things are looking up.
 
mantisman51

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I've never understood the illogic Maryland used for their gun law. "A citizen must prove they have a reason to exercise their Constitutional right". Funny they didn't have the same restriction on say, free speech, the 4th or the 5th Amendment: "Now before we allow you to speak your mind, you'll need to pay $500 for the permit, fill out these 15 forms, submit them to the sheriff and he will determine if there is sufficient cause to allow you to speak your mind". "We are going to do a random search on your house. If you think there is a good reason we shouldn't, go to the sheriff, pay $500, fill out the forms and the sheriff will determine if there is a good reason why we shouldn't search your home without a warrant". When you put the 2nd Amendment in the context of every other Constitutional right, it makes what liberals think and do with it seem as stupid, and unConstitutional, as it is.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Given the choice between intermittent masacres and restricting access to guns, we have chosen the massacres.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484884
Given the choice between intermittent masacres and restricting access to guns, we have chosen the massacres.
And how many more killing or massacres will occur if we restrict access to guns? You need look no further than Mexico to know what the results are. Difference is down there the massacres are not the work of a lone nut job, it's deliberate actions of criminals who know the people are nearly helpless to defend themselves.
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484891
And how many more killing or massacres will occur if we restrict access to guns? You need look no further than Mexico to know what the results are. Difference is down there the massacres are not the work of a lone nut job, it's deliberate actions of criminals who know the people are nearly helpless to defend themselves.
You can't use Mexico as an example because that entire country reeks of corruption from the top officials down to the drug cartels that are primarily responsible for the violence that occurs in that country. You get competing gangs and cartels fighting one another on a constant basis, and innocent victims will get caught up in the crossfire. Why are there so many violent deaths there? Try the thousands of assault-type weapons that are smuggled into that country from the US. You think Mexico has ammunition and gun manufacturing plants that are capable of making the weaponry they use for their little battles? These drug cartels aren't going around and randomly shooting innocent people for no reason. Most of the victims are competing gang and drug cartel members. There's also a multitude of individuals from other Central American countries that are used as mules and drug runners that get caught in the middle. I was in Torreon a few weeks ago, and we had a driver taking us from a work facility to the hotel every evening after we were done. One night, the driver diverted from his normal route, and took us a different direction to the hotel. We asked why, and he pointed to this road sign in the middle of the road. The sign essentially said, "Be advised that this area is not safe to travel at this time. Proceed at your own risk." We asked if the Federales put the signs out to warn individuals about potential violence in the area, and he said, "Actually one of the local cartels put the signs out when they are aware they will be involved in a dispute with an opposing cartel "invading their turf". They don't want innocent people getting harmed." Arming "helpless inividuals" would be an effort in futility. Arm them with a Colt .45, they are confronted with an AK-47. Give them an AR-15, and their house gets riddled with multiple AK's, Tech-9's, and maybe a couple of grenades from a grenade launcher attached to an AR. Unless you can stop the smuggling of the types of assault weapons these people have in their possession, not even the Federales can compete with the fire power these cartels use against them and anyone that tries to get in their way.
 
travelerjp98

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Well thats nice of the gang... Lol.
OK, I have to share mine... this is the rifle hanging over my bed... a beautiful antique Remington Model 34 Bolt action rimfire rifle... .22... it still works perfectly even though its 80ish years old.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484906
You can't use Mexico as an example because that entire country reeks of corruption from the top officials down to the drug cartels that are primarily responsible for the violence that occurs in that country. You get competing gangs and cartels fighting one another on a constant basis, and innocent victims will get caught up in the crossfire. Why are there so many violent deaths there? Try the thousands of assault-type weapons that are smuggled into that country from the US. You think Mexico has ammunition and gun manufacturing plants that are capable of making the weaponry they use for their little battles? These drug cartels aren't going around and randomly shooting innocent people for no reason. Most of the victims are competing gang and drug cartel members. There's also a multitude of individuals from other Central American countries that are used as mules and drug runners that get caught in the middle. I was in Torreon a few weeks ago, and we had a driver taking us from a work facility to the hotel every evening after we were done. One night, the driver diverted from his normal route, and took us a different direction to the hotel. We asked why, and he pointed to this road sign in the middle of the road. The sign essentially said, "Be advised that this area is not safe to travel at this time. Proceed at your own risk." We asked if the Federales put the signs out to warn individuals about potential violence in the area, and he said, "Actually one of the local cartels put the signs out when they are aware they will be involved in a dispute with an opposing cartel "invading their turf". They don't want innocent people getting harmed." Arming "helpless inividuals" would be an effort in futility. Arm them with a Colt .45, they are confronted with an AK-47. Give them an AR-15, and their house gets riddled with multiple AK's, Tech-9's, and maybe a couple of grenades from a grenade launcher attached to an AR. Unless you can stop the smuggling of the types of assault weapons these people have in their possession, not even the Federales can compete with the fire power these cartels use against them and anyone that tries to get in their way.
None of that matters. What does is criminals in Mexico know that in nearly every case their target is unarmed. One of the motivations behind the second amendment was citizens could protect themselves if the government didn't act.
About 30 percent of the arms recovered from Mexican crime scenes are traced back to the US. The weapon of choice, the AK 47 are not made here. Neither are most of the other stuff they use. You could build a wall between the US and Mexico next week so another gun couldn't get across and they would have the same amount of violence as they do now, they would just increase the flow from their other sources.
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by travelerjp98 http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484922
Well thats nice of the gang... Lol.
OK, I have to share mine... this is the rifle hanging over my bed... a beautiful antique Remington Model 34 Bolt action rimfire rifle... .22... it still works perfectly even though its 80ish years old.

Sweet! I have one my stepdad had. Not sure of the brand but it's a bolt action that you also have to pull a plunger to set the firing pin once you've chambered the round. Very safe weapon.
 
travelerjp98

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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484924
Sweet! I have one my stepdad had. Not sure of the brand but it's a bolt action that you also have to pull a plunger to set the firing pin once you've chambered the round. Very safe weapon.
Thank you, I forgot to add how accurate it is too!
I will sure have fun with it when PA squirrel season comes
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by travelerjp98 http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484925
Thank you, I forgot to add how accurate it is too!
I will sure have fun with it when PA squirrel season comes

Yep, My stepdads too. When I was a teenager we had a smart mouse that wouldn't fall for a trap. My stepdad baited it with some peanut butter and laid on the living room floor with his gun. I though he was full of crap but I was back in my bedroom listening to the radio when I heard a pop. He nailed the mouse at about 20 feet.
 
slice

slice

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For general vermin dispatch, especially within town limits, I have this:

Gamo 220 .177 cal Hunter with 9x40 scope. 1200fsp and is very accurate. Wadcutter pellets do a lot of damage to small game.
It sounds like a nail gun, nobody notices.
 
travelerjp98

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Originally Posted by Slice http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484934
For general vermin dispatch, especially within town limits, I have this:

Gamo 220 .177 cal Hunter with 9x40 scope. 1200fsp and is very accurate. Wadcutter pellets do a lot of damage to small game.
It sounds like a nail gun, nobody notices.
I have a pellet gun very similar to that. I would assume it's 700-1000 fps. But there is no name to it or anything written on it.
I also have a BB handgun, its a Crosman c11... 480fps... semi auto. Lacks in accuracy though.
Nice story Reefraff :)
 
reefraff

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484946
None of that matters? How do you figure? Nice deflection. No, the AK isn't made in the US, but if you think the main source for assault weapons isn't the US, then you completely blind by the obvious.
It doesn't matter. Fact remains that people in Mexico have an extremely hard time getting guns and have massacres the like of what happened in Colorado on a regular basis. You are the one trying to deflect. Hello? The cartels mainly use FULL AUTO WEAPONS. Want to rethink that claim most of them come from the US again?
 
snakeblitz33

snakeblitz33

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You know, am I the only cynical one on here? I mean, c'mmon, if there wasn't a massacre here and there the news would only be about the weather and you guys would have nothing to talk about.

Snake (too soon?) Blitz33
 
reefraff

reefraff

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Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33 http:///t/392453/why-carry-a-gun/20#post_3484964
You know, am I the only cynical one on here? I mean, c'mmon, if there wasn't a massacre here and there the news would only be about the weather and you guys would have nothing to talk about.

Snake (too soon?) Blitz33
Or conspiracy theory. 0bama needed a distraction from the lousy economy LOL!
 
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