Would like honest opinions...........

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smartorl

Guest
What do you feel about sexually charged conversations either over the net, texting, and instant messaging through phones? How would you feel if you found out your spouse was doing it? Do you see it as betrayal in the relationship? If you made it clear to your partner that you were not ok with it and then found out they were still doing it what would your feelings be? After being caught lying over the issue more than once would you ever be able to trust your partner fully again?
 

spanko

Active Member
Those types of conversations no matter where or how they occur if they are with someone other than the spouse are betrayal.
 
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smartorl

Guest
Bionicarm, I didn't include my role because I really wanted to hear people's honest opinions on the matter.
 

flower

Well-Known Member

Originally Posted by smartorl
http:///forum/post/3119707
What do you feel about sexually charged conversations either over the net, texting, and instant messaging through phones? How would you feel if you found out your spouse was doing it? Do you see it as betrayal in the relationship? If you made it clear to your partner that you were not ok with it and then found out they were still doing it what would your feelings be? After being caught lying over the issue more than once would you ever be able to trust your partner fully again?

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3119712
Those types of conversations no matter where or how they occur if they are with someone other than the spouse are betrayal.
I totally agree....IDC if you never meet the person....it's wrong
 

coral keeper

Active Member

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3119722

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
+1
 

bender77

Member

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3119722

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
+1
 

meowzer

Moderator

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3119722

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
YEAH...I agree with this too
 

alyssia

Active Member

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3119722

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
 

nw2salt08

Active Member
Thank you for bringing this topic up. This has been an issue that I've come across and am interested in the answers as well.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
Anything that draws someones attention and passion away from their spouse is wrong. Ever hear of "hunting season widows"? A more trivial example. When someone makes the object of their attention/desire another person, it is betrayal. If I were to give time, emotion and passion to another, I am telling my spouse that she cannot fulfill my needs. Whether or not I act physically on those emotions or not.
 

bulldog123

Member
If cheating has not occurred yet it is not far behind. Without trust and respect there will be nothing left but resentment.
 

ophiura

Active Member
I agree with the above, it is not ok at all.
I mean, I don't think it is right at all in any regard. People may argue at least that forums like these are "anonymous" and so harmless. I don't agree but I can see a slight difference...but TEXTING someone means you know who that PERSON is and it is a escalation I think of a behavior in that regard. It is so not ok. I hope this is a dating situation because it is time to go...
If it is a marriage, I think a further escalation is not out of the question at all. The trust is definitely betrayed. There is a difference obviously between the physical interaction and mental thoughts...but in many ways not much. The thought is a large part of the act.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
If Bill Clinton considers a BJ, "Not having s exual relations with that woman", then just talking about it on the phone means nothing.

If one or both parties are partaking in these activities, regardless the medium, then there are deeper issues involved. Apparently something is lacking in the relationship, whether it be the 'S' word, or just communication in general. Some individuals turn to these 'hobbies' to take their minds off of problems with their lives - loss of jobs, problems at work, either spouse having to travel a lot or work extra hours, monetary problems, issues with their children, illnesses in the family, etc. As someone else stated, if you're resorting to talking dirty to someone on the phone, through email or an online chat, instead of your spouse, you first step is to sit down and discuss the issue one-on-one. If neither will cooperate, then you have two options - seek professional counseling, or move on and away from the relationship.
 

lovethesea

Active Member
hmmm...this just happened to someone here and he is now going through a divorce. I would bet that the text has come after the meeting face to face.
I would not think any spouse would accept this behavior.
 

jennythebugg

Active Member

Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3119722

Loaded question....
Texting isn’t empty searching…you are talking to someone
. To talk to someone about s e x is betrayal.
Searching on the web for pictures is creepy, JMO… but not betrayal.
A person who texts someone (any real person)on that subject is on the first steps of cheating. If the person continues after being caught…has no respect for their beloved, or marriage vows.
If you are not married…enjoy the company but don’t marry this type of person.
If this is your spouse, it is time for some counseling, since they are on the first steps of cheating, let them know you are on the first steps of a possible separation, as I see it a divorce is on the horizon.
If you don't have your spouse’s respect, how can they have your trust. Counseling MIGHT save the marriage, it is worth a shot.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
I agree here. Talking to people on the internet, that you don't know, is probably just a need for affection, attention, or a release in some way. Texting is way different. That is someone that you know, or know well enough to exhange numbers with. Big difference there. Chatting online can be semi-harmless, although there are issues if a married or attatched person is going there. Texting in that way shows that there is a very good possibility that things will go further.
 
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smartorl

Guest
Thanks for the responses. I have found them to be very validating of my position. I caught my partner.
The first time, after the initial blow up, he was apologetic and seemed sincere, then I found out about many others that took place afterwards.
We attended therapy, where the therapist rather validated his position largely, because my partner downplayed the severity and graphic nature of it all.
It was him communicating with "friends" and I blew things out of proportion. I have male friends, I have never, ever, acted out scenarios with them. I guess, "Hey, how are you, how's the weather" is out of the question.
I ended the relationship and to the bitter end, he did nothing wrong. It was nothing that I shouldn't be able to simply get over. Now being back in my homestate, rebuilding my life, I have thought about it alot, I guess doubting myself.
The final straw was he began getting up out of bed several times and running to the computer to check "something" and was never without his phone which was going off with text alerts all the time. I realized that I didn't trust him and never would and trying to work through it was delaying the inevitable.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Well I am glad to hear you got out...and stop doubting yourself...and I would never go back to that lousy therapist either..LOL
Good luck
 
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